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YouTube Removes Video of Reactions To Being Videoed

theodp writes "To follow-up on an earlier Slashdot post, GeekWire reports that YouTube has removed Surveillance Camera Man's latest video of people's sometimes-violent reactions to being videoed, citing its policy of prohibiting content designed to harass, threaten or bully ("This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten"). In a neat coincidence, the YouTube ban comes just after similar complaints were lodged against Google Glass. 'Some people also seem to feel threatened by Google Glass,' Philip De Cortes wrote in Google Glass Will Fail. 'They wonder if they're being recorded, and they feel like the tool could be used against them in some way.'"

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  1. Really by jasper160 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People should be this upset about the government doing this too. CCTV's are popping up everywhere, even in rural US cities.

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    1. Re:Really by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find it funny that we have police CCTV everywhere--there's two on my street watching my house wtf?--but people bitch about Google Glass. Yet people don't whine about dash cams or cameras in cell phones?

      Also the people claiming Google Glass will fail as a product because people don't like the idea of being videoed are dumb. The person buying Google Glass isn't being videoed, so he doesn't have an incentive to not have it; it's everyone else who has an incentive for him to not have it. That doesn't stop the product from selling. If I become a billionaire, a lot of people will be pissed at my private yacht because they have wallets as small as their penises; but their penis envy won't stop me from owning a private yacht. (The fact that private yachts are boring as hell might--wtf am I going to do with a yacht?)

    2. Re:Really by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "When the person being videoed becomes hostile, punches you in the face, and breaks your new google glasses, you may rethink purchasing another pair. "

      Then I'll buy something better, designed for me personally with all the money I'll get for that assault, after suing the moron, since the video will be already saved in the cloud before the fist hits my face.

    3. Re:Really by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like you're lucky enough not to have met any hipsters

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    4. Re:Really by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it funny that we have police CCTV everywhere--there's two on my street watching my house wtf?--but people bitch about Google Glass. Yet people don't whine about dash cams or cameras in cell phones?

      Typical non-sequitur (and looks like a flaimebait to me, not insightful). You can consistently

      1. be against CCTV everywhere (and where I live, they are not everywhere)

      2. be against Google glasses (unless they'd have a HUGE flashing light plus aconstant BEEP BEEP BEEP sound when they are recording)

      3. have no problem with cameras in phones as long as they are clearly indicating when they are recording (and otherwise be against their use)

      Moreover, in the country I come from filming people in public without their consent is prohibited, and I greatly appreciate that.

    5. Re:Really by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're assuming that the person punching you has any assets or income worth anything. Good luck with that.

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    6. Re: Really by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It depends on your lawyer. But all other things being equal, the nature of the harassment caused by somebody videoing you in public location would not generally be considered just cause for assault. You might win a civil case against someebody if they tried to sue you for the cost of the glasses, but video harassment wouldn't save you from the legal consequences, which may include jail.

      If you're willing to go to jail for what you believe is right, well then kudos.

    7. Re: Really by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      which can be considered harassment.

      Right, but I think taking someone's property off of their body and smashing it is also considered harassment, so perhaps they were right for recording you.

      Is that how the logic goes?

      Fact is, if youre in a public place, you dont have an expectation of privacy. Property laws (ie, it being illegal for you to take and smash my stuff), however, still apply.

    8. Re: Really by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " ...they were recording you which can be considered harassment..."

      Assault and destruction of property are not justified, even if you had a legitimate claim of harassment, which in this case, you would not.

  2. Re:Reactions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disagree. This guy is just being a total asshole and a creep. The one lady is just having a conversation on the phone and he come up, sits down in front of her, videotaping her from point blank range. She asks him fairly nicely to please go away, and he just keeps being an asshole about it. Despite that, she continues acting fairly nice for a while until he continues being an asshole. And she even tried to engage him in some conversation, reading part of something off his shirt "I support" and then asking what it was he supported. Instead of responding, he continues to just be a creep, and gives her no response.

    Also, this is supposed to be some form of protest against pervasive security cameras, but there are a few major differences. First, I believe the vast majority of security cameras only capture video, not sound. Second, security cameras are not specifically targeting you the way this jerk is by coming up and getting right in people's faces. Third, security cameras generally aren't uploading their videos to youtube.

    I'm generally very cool with people doing this stuff in public. I have no problem with people taking photos or videos of me in public. Hell, I'm a photographer myself, so I'm sensitive to that sort of thing since I'm often the one behind the camera. But this guy is just an asshole, and even I would be extremely pissed if he acted that way around me. Assholes like him are why people like me get grief whenever we photograph in public.

  3. This is pure harrassment. by nuckfuts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I"m very much against the govt. cameras, but a guy on the street not hassling anyone shouldn't be a problem.

    The person calling himself Surveillance Camera Guy was absolutely hassling people in my opinion. In one controversial instance, he sat down at a small table outside a coffee shop with a man who was talking on his cell phone, and proceeded to record the man on video. Not surprisingly, the man asked what Camera Guy was doing. Camera Guy's repeated response was an inane "It's OK - it's just a video" or something like that. The victim calmly and politely asked him to take his camera elsewhere, stating that he was having a private conversation, but eventually become quite angry that Camera Guy would not respect his request for privacy.

    A lot of commenters ridiculed the victim because he was expecting to have a "private conversation" in a public space. I wonder how these commenters would react to a stranger recording their phone conversations? It's one thing to be casually overheard talking on a phone in public. It's another thing for some jerk to deliberately encroach in someone's personal space and sit there recording their conversation.

    Some people have interpreted Camera Guy's stunts as an artistic commentary on life in a surveillance society. I call bullshit. At one point he tells a victim something like "Why would you object to me video recording you? The store you just walked out of has video surveillance cameras, yet you weren't bothered by that". There is a world of difference between a passive camera system that indiscriminately records video (and not audio) of anyone who walks past, and a guy who deliberately singles out individual passersby, encroaches on them in a manner that is deliberately intended to make them uncomfortable, refuses to answer meaningfully why he is doing it, records both video and audio, and then posts the videos online for the sake of ridiculing the victim.

    We have certain accepted modes of behaviour to enable us to get along together as a society, such as respect for people's personal space, even in public. To deliberately cross these boundaries, merely for the purpose of making people uncomfortable, is neither clever or noteworthy. Camera Surveillance Guy was being a rude little asshole for the sake of his own amusement. Youtube was correct to consider his actions as harassment.