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Why Protesters In Cairo Use Laser Pointers

New submitter Ahmed Shaban writes "Why do protesters in Cairo use laser pointers? At the beginning, they were used to light up snipers on rooftops. Later, it just became fashionable to use them, and such things spread very fast among the youth of Cairo, who can find the high power laser pointers for sale on the sidewalks. The article contains amazing photos of a chopper lit up by green laser pointers."

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  1. No reason to light up snipers these days... by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With the Egyptian military completely on board with the protesters this time around, I guess the laser pointers dont have much actual purpose anymore.

    Its actually quite remarkable what is happening there. More people were protesting than had voted for the president because the president decided that their constitution didnt apply to him, so the military takes down the president in response but remarkably doesnt assume power.

    How many countries actually have a military that would do this sort of thing? I'm fairly certain that mine, with a military that runs an agency well known now for violating the constitution, would not.

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    1. Re:No reason to light up snipers these days... by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then, they (the military) appoint some other guy to be president.

      That 'some other guy' was the head of the Egyptian Constitutional Court, and a deputy chief justice for over 2 decades, not some arbitrary pick.

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    2. Re:No reason to light up snipers these days... by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I dunno. If someone staged a coup in the US, I'd be 'encouraging people to be violent' against it as well.

      What if 50 million people in the US took to the streets in protest of the government?

      That is essentially what just happened in Egypt. 17% of the people took to the streets! The largest protest in the history of the world at 14 million people.

      Its gotta be extremely bad to get 17% of the people actively protesting, so when you say 'staged a coup' I honestly wonder exactly how ignorant you are of what just happened in Egypt. Only read and watch American news?

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  2. The real idiots... by Smivs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...are the moronic A/Cs on /. who seem happy to denigrate the Egyptian people for celebrating the peaceful overthrow of a useless leader. The fact that the army has removed these incompetants and are immediately handing power back to the people is un-precedented and incredible. The Egyptian people and army could teach some other nations a thing or two, I think, not to mention some of the ignorant bigots who plague /.

    1. Re:The real idiots... by Smivs · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ha, if I relied on American news I wouldn't know a bloody thing! Thankfully I'm a European (of sorts). I never said the current situation was peaceful, or desirable. The coup was peaceful, but subsequently the opposing sides have started skirmishing, which is to be expected, and it does look like the army might be a bit more active than before in intervening. This is clearly not good. I also do have serious reservations about the principle of the army removing democratic governments. While I can't condone this, in this particular case it probably averted a civil war, so was the lesser of two evils. This is not a good situation at all, but that is not what my original post was about. I posted because half the preceding posts were full of ignorance and bigotry and it pissed me off, that's all.

  3. Re:In greece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You use your cat to confuse riot police?

  4. Re:In greece by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Police and cats have much in common
    1) They both enjoy stalking weaker prey
    2) They both enjoy toying with their prey
    3) They both have a love/hate relationship with lasers
    4) There's tons of videos on YouTube of them both doing dumb things

  5. Re: This Is Considered News?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems the same in US too..

  6. Re:uhh... isn't the military on their side? by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was in the dorms at college when Obama was elected for the first time. His supporters rioted and caused a bunch of property damage and ruffed up people.
    There's also been cases of sports fans rioting when their team has won.

    People do crazy shit to celebrate that just seems counterproductive to an outside observer.

  7. Re:This Is Considered News?? by damienl451 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it were so easy, many South American countries would have become as prosperous and democratic as the US since their constitutions were basically copies of the US Constitution. Yet, somehow, it didn't really work.

    You can see the same in many former British colonies. If you read their Constitution, you'll see that they're not much different from what you find in any modern democracy. Bill of rights, checks and balances, constitutional protections for both negative and positive rights. They also inherited the common law tradition and much of their legislation is copy-pasted from UK legislation circa 1960. It's so similar in theory that UK-trained lawyers can usually practice with minimum to nil extra training, as most of the legal education is done from UK textbooks and case books anyway.

    Yet, in practice, it's quite different. Sure, you have the same theoretical protections, but they do little good when everyone is free to ignore them. It's nice to tell the courts that they have to be independent and fair, but how do you guarantee that?

    "They need to adjust their system, institute checks and balances", etc. is all wishful thinking. It's about as useful as telling a developing country that all they need to do is grow. It's true but pretty useless as far as advice goes. The tricky part is knowing how to move from the equilibrium where the law is widely ignored, where formal checks and balances don't work, where the constitution is not worth the paper it's written on, to a better equilibrium. As far as I can tell, no-one has yet found a magic recipe for that because things are usually the way they are for a reason. It's not like bad institutions just spring up at random: they are usually people who have an interest in maintaining the status quo, and we were able to see times and times again that removing whoever happens to be in power doesn't do much to solve the structural problems and can even lead to worse outcomes (Iraq? Libya?).

  8. Re:Amazing photos? by couchslug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The pilot should have bailed out and let the damned thing crash into the crowd."

    Pilot bailing out....of a conventional helicopter.

    And to think /. was once a techy site.

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  9. Cats by wisnoskij · · Score: 5, Funny

    Egyptians revere cats.
    So obviously they are fascinated with laser pointers as well.

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  10. It depends. by raehl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is that not the textbook definition of a coup d'etat?

    Just because a government is democratically elected doesn't mean it's a democracy. History is full of democratically elected governments that then turn into totalitarian regimes.

    If Obama woke up tomorrow and ordered that all Tea Party members be arrested, I would expect our military to essentially remove him from office - in the immediate case by ignoring him, and in the longer case by Congress impeaching him and removing him from office - which would still require the cooperation of the military (they'd have to decide to listen to Congress and not the President.)

    In Egypt, there isn't really a constitutional mechanism to get rid of a leader who, while democratically elected, isn't fulfilling his responsibilities as a democratic leader, so the best thing they have is the Army takes care of it.

    So while this may technically be a coup in that the elected leader is being removed from office through a non-elective means, it's not necessarily undemocratic, if you believe the elected leader is abusing the freedoms of the people and the coup is to create the opportunity for someone who does respect the rights of the people to be elected.

  11. Re:Whats the laser used in laser wars by v1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but I don't believe for a moment that it'll ignite anything at a distance of several hundred feet

    Although atmosphere does reduce the power, it's columnated light and in a vacuum anyway it would not lose any of its power. Dust, fog, humidity in the air will lower the power, but also cause you to be able to see the beam in the air. If you can't see the beam of a laser, it's likely delivering very close to 100% of its output power on target.

    Years ago, when laser pointers were expensive, I had a 5mw red laser that we tested at 1/4 mile. It lit up an entire dumpster very nicely. (lenses weren't that good back then, it wouldn't hold a point for more than 25 feet or so, and TONS of scatter)

    But on the other issue of power, just because it's a laser doesn't make it any more destructive than something else of the same power. A 100w lightbulb puts out 100x the power of a 1w laser pointer. And you don't see lightbulbs catching helicopters on fire. (even if focused in a spotlight) The only reason 1w lasers catch paper on fire is they're concentrating 1w of power into a 2mm x 2mm area. That would probably feel like a match at 1/2", enough to light paper. That's not going to melt metal obviously, at any range. The laser just lets you project that "half inch from a match" out several hundred yards. It doesn't make it more (or less) intense.

    Somewhat back on topic though... wow.... that flight had to SUCK for those helicopter pilots. Someone hits one 727 with a laser pointer and the whole city loses their mind and the swat team rolls. That heli looks like it had 3-4 dozen green and at least two blue pointed at it. They would have to be out of their minds to look down except through cameras, and imagine the refractions going on inside the cockpit, with greens and blues scattering off all the shiny things. I bet that is an incredibly effective deterrent for the pilots.

    Ironic, they sent in the helicopters as a show of force, and got driven off by the demonstrators using cheap, commonly available tech. Sort of like making the water canon truck leave by throwing rocks at it. Embarrassing.

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