Federal Judge Rejects State Secrets Claims: EFF Case To Proceed
The EFF has been attempting to sue the government over illegal surveillance since the Bush administration, and, despite repeated attempts to have the case dismissed because of State Secrets, a federal judge has now ruled that the case must go forward in public court, throwing out the government's State Secrets argument. From the order: Having thoroughly considered the parties' papers, Defendants' public and classified
declarations, the relevant legal authority and the parties' arguments, the Court GRANTS the
Jewel Plaintiffs' motion for partial summary adjudication by rejecting the state secrets defense
as having been displaced by the statutory procedure prescribed in 50 U.S.C. 1806(f) of FISA. In both related cases, the Court GRANTS Defendants' motions to dismiss Plaintiffs' statutory
claims on the basis of sovereign immunity. The Court further finds that the parties have not
addressed the viability of the only potentially remaining claims, the Jewel Plaintiffs'
constitutional claims under the Fourth and First Amendments and the claim for violation of
separation of powers and the Shubert Plaintiffs' fourth cause of action for violation of the
Fourth Amendment. Accordingly, the Court RESERVES ruling on Defendants' motion for
summary judgment on the remaining, non-statutory claims."
Although some statutory claims were dismissed, the core Constitutional questions will be litigated.
Military will always expand their power. The Judiciaries job is not to *trust* the military to do the right thing, its to *check* they are doing the right thing. Each and every time, warrant by warrant.
When the FISA court granted *blanket* warrants, for all data of a class, on the *trust* that the NSA would filter and only use the portion of the data for the intended purpose it failed its duty. When NSA decided to start storing data on everyone in 4 huge data centers, it clearly intended to keep everything on everyone. Not limiting the data to just terrorists.
Where was the judicial oversight? Kept in the dark by abuse of secrecy.
However, there will be cases that deal with actual state secrets. For those, we need a court set up to deal with that sort of thing
No. We need a lack of state secrets. We need an open, transparent government that actually acts in the interests of its people rather than its CEOs. We need a court set up to try every breach of public trust as a capital offense.
We need an asteroid.
Don't worry - they'll start the next illegal program now so that when this one gets struck down, its replacement will be humming along nicely.
'Soverign immunity' is what makes this form of government unjust in the first place. To hear the government lawyers use it as a defense claim is to hear them say, "but your honor, we're entitled to injustice." It's enough to make one's inner Bastiat's skin crawl.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
However, there will be cases that deal with actual state secrets.
I'm honestly having a hard time picturing what those cases would be. I could see the need for secret courts if one assumes that the very existence of a spy program to listen to foreign terrorists' cell phone calls is a secret. But that's idiotic. The terrorists know we're trying to spy on them. We know that they know. Even before Snowden or Binney. Al Quaeda has been acting covertely since before we actually WERE listening. They weren't holding public meetings in Sudan to discuss the best ways to attack the US.
Regular courts deal with things that need to be kept secret: the names and addresses of witnesses against criminals isn't published in a "People with a price on their heads weekly" magazine. Regular non-secret courts can handle secrets. They won't be outing informants.
Lastly, the pointless secrecy is massively counterproductive. Leaks are going to happen if you make it a moral obligation for someone to report it as you do with secret courts and clearly perverting justice. It seems clear to me that the leaks are going to be more dangerous than you'd have with non-secret courts. The Manning leak had, if I recall, actual sensitive information that regular courts would have likely kept secret, such as informant identities.