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Microsoft Reveals Its 3D Printing Strategy For Windows 8.1

colinneagle writes "At the Inside 3D Printing conference in Chicago, Microsoft senior product manager Jesse McGatha discussed why Microsoft recently announced that Windows 8.1 will support 3D printing, even giving a demo of a sample app for printing a design file. But in the presentation it became clear that Microsoft is capitalizing on the recent hype of 3D printing and positioning itself to capitalize on the future consumer markets for 3D printing. However, a Gartner analyst recently warned that 3D printing may not become the household consumer item that some are making it out to be. So, by capitalizing on the buzz, Microsoft may attract makers, innovators, and even enterprise customers that use 3D printing, but avoids any risk if the consumer market fails to reach its potential."

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  1. I don't even, what are they, what? by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm confused. Everything supports 3D printing. There's probably a Linux application for it. You just have the company write a driver, install 3D software that works with it, and hit print. The operating system is irrelevant. All they're doing is putting a big "sue me, I have the most money" sign on them with a picture of a 3D printed gun under it. Now they're just getting desperate. I thought 8.1 was a rush fix like Windows 7 from Vista but nope. Hopefully THIS TIME heads will roll and they'll replace clueless morons with reasonable design leads at MS.

    1. Re:I don't even, what are they, what? by cnettel · · Score: 4, Informative

      DOS supported printing, in the sense that you could interface to a printer through LPT1. The way in which Apple and Microsoft worked towards abstracting the process of printing was a quite different thing. This could be a 3rd party library, but the point is that there is some brokering beyond the specific API, software, and specifications released by individual manufacturers.

    2. Re:I don't even, what are they, what? by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      I'm confused. Everything supports 3D printing. There's probably a Linux application for it. You just have the company write a driver, install 3D software that works with it, and hit print. The operating system is irrelevant. All they're doing is putting a big "sue me, I have the most money" sign on them with a picture of a 3D printed gun under it. Now they're just getting desperate. I thought 8.1 was a rush fix like Windows 7 from Vista but nope. Hopefully THIS TIME heads will roll and they'll replace clueless morons with reasonable design leads at MS.

      do you know what OS you have to boot to special mode to install drivers for almost any 3d printer - makerbots included? Windows 8. I guess the main thing is that they've included arduino drivers with the os...

      (the reason is that the arduino/custom arduino serial drivers are rarely signed..)

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    3. Re:I don't even, what are they, what? by dkf · · Score: 2

      Now the standard Printing API is designed for 2d. While for some 3d printers you can translate the page break into a go up level, but not all 3d Printers work the same, so you will want an API that takes a 3d diagram then send that to the drivers to figure out how to do it. So you can take many 3d applications and print 3d stuff from it without needing your app to be particular to the 3d printer you are using.

      The fascinating thing is that the material you print with makes a very big difference to how you do the printing. While most people doing 3D printing are using something like ABS, that's not really all that robust; switching to nylon gets you a much stronger result. However, using nylon (hint: the very cheapest weed whacker nylon works well, but the expensive stuff doesn't because of all the added silica) means that the print head has to run a bit hotter and the material has different physical properties. AIUI, a pattern that works well for one print material does not for another; I shudder to think what a multi-material print would be like!

      You also need error correction in the drivers if you're going to do a large print...

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    4. Re: I don't even, what are they, what? by RaceProUK · · Score: 4, Funny

      Last few printers I installed on Windows:

      1. Connect printer
      2. Windows Update churns for a few minutes
      3. Use printer

      I can see why you're struggling - it's obviously only possible with a PhD in quantum printing interface dynamics.

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    5. Re: I don't even, what are they, what? by mlts · · Score: 2

      That isn't MS's fault. It is the fault of printer makers who have their own drivers and bloatware. One maker even has their drivers limit the amount of machines that can print to their printer to five or so.

      I'd point the finger at the printer makers. We have had working standards for decades now, like PostScript or even PCL.

    6. Re:I don't even, what are they, what? by ajlitt · · Score: 2

      Now that I think about it, that's true, there is no hardware flow control for RepRap firmware. Sorry, forgot about that. Every command is responded to with "ok" if it's been accepted into the buffer. If there's no room, the "ok" is delayed until the buffer has space. So maybe "copy file com1:" might not work well, but a very simple expect script could do the job.

  2. Not to worry by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft won't kill this dead before it ever gets out of the gate by making sure that your printers checks with a central database for against anything that could be patent infringing. However, in the event that something could be patent infringing they will offer a service in which they will offer you an immediate license to print your part. Since you license is a legal contract it must be tied to your Microsoft account which will require all of your personal information including you credit card information.

    In exchange for Microsoft providing the very valuable service of ensuring that you don't violate someones patent in the privacy of your own home they will extract a 30% royalty of any transaction. The thing store will track all of your purchases in order to make it easier for you (and anyone else) to know what your printing or browsing. They can then offer you "valuable" offers from marketing partners on similar services.

    Therefore you can now say it is possible to be financially screwed by Microsoft while making a Microsoft approved screw while screwed by their marketing partners all in the privacy of your own home all while your not getting screwed!

    /screwed. I'm claiming patent to this process and donating it to the EFF if it's not already patented dammit.

    1. Re:Not to worry by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

      They'll also make it so you can 3D print by waving your Windows Phone around in the air.

      "I left my phone in my jacket when I put it in the drier. It must have turned on and printed this..."

      "Strange! But it looks like a bulky, bald executive throwing a chair."

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  3. Be much happier if they fixed the 2d printing firs by nosfucious · · Score: 2

    Specifically crapware loaded install programs.

    99.9% of the time, I just want the drivers. ONLY the drivers.

    OK, hardly MS fault, the blame being with the manufacturers, but they should inist that the driver can be easily extracted and uploaded to a Windows print server. Without jumping multiple hoops.

    And the drivers should be happy to work when your system default is A4 paper. Rather than trying to insist on going (back) to Letter. Or happily resetting print preferences from time to time (like not accepting a static host name, rather than IP address for a port)., etc, etc.

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  4. DRM by Lispy · · Score: 2

    They will also be the first to inplement DRM and prevent you on printing "copyrighted" or "unwanted" stuff...

    1. Re:DRM by Plazmid · · Score: 3, Informative

      It appears you are correct, Microsoft's new file 3d printing file format specification is explicitly designed to allow for "content protection."

      I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft starts their own 3d printing "app-store."

  5. Re:apk by telchine · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have visions of Clippy turning up shouting "I see you're printing a gun!"

  6. Re:Scratching my head and... by Voyager529 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...I seriously doubt the home market for 3-D beyond cheap plastic birthday party trinkets is going to take off any time soon.

    You then underestimate the potential market for cheap plastic birthday party trinkets.
    There's already a company making a fortune off a paper cutter, because they've learned how to correctly market it to the craft maker segment. The cutter is $200 or so, then you have the rest of the ecosystem: the mats, the different cutting blades, and the patterns. How much does all this crap go for? Usually the pattern cartridges cost some $30 a pop,give or take. Go to your local craft store, they will have a huge section full of them. My aunt loves all this stamp and calligraphy stuff, but any slashdotter who believes they have the patience of Gandhi can swing by any day and teach my aunt how to do 'conventional' vector illustration and how to generate an EPS and then send it to a professional-grade paper cutter. It's at best impractical, and certainly wouldn't achieve a critical mass.

    However, if there's a company out there that can make a mint off an ecosystem designed to make patterns on paper, you can't possibly convince me that there's no market to do the same out of plastic, if not a bigger one - ever been to a hobby store and seen all the plastic models that can be built? Now you've got the bored housewives' craft market and the nerds' model building market, and yes - a DIY-spare-parts market for certain things where such pieces could be made out of the correct plastic effectively.

    As a blank slate that requires the 3D version of PostScript written in LaTeX? yeah, not much of a market. As a machine that allows birthday trinkets with a point-and-click iPad interface? someone's gonna get rich off that.

  7. Re:This part of the re-org? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

    I think a core failing of Microsoft is that they don't how competent or incompetent they really are. They think they are full of geniuses when more often than not they're full of average people just fumbling along without a clue like everyone else. Instead of looking at a new technology and thinking that they need to learn and understand it, they will charge ahead full steam and assume that because they are Microsoft they will of course become the experts. This prevents them from focusing on areas where they might actually succeed and instead encourages a shotgun approach to trying to get into all markets.