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Wayland 1.2.0 Released With Weston

Posted by timothy on from the somewhere-there's-a-kid-named-wayland-weston dept.

An anonymous reader writes "Wayland 1.2 & Weston 1.2 have been released. Features of this quarterly update to the X.Org/Mir display competitor is support for color management, a new input method framework, a Raspberry Pi renderer/back-end, HiDPI output scaling, multi-seat improvements, and various other changes for this next-generation Linux desktop display protocol and compositor."

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  1. Wrong Summary by allo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wayland ist not a Xorg/Mir competitor, as mir is not affiliated in any way with xorg. Wayland is the planned successor of Xorg, while Mir is some Ubuntu project.

  2. The Real Story Behind Wayland and X.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Daniel Stone made a great presentation explaining various problems with X11 that Wayland tries to fix:
    http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/The_real_story_behind_Wayland_and_X.ogv

    The same presentation is also on YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44

    1. Re:The Real Story Behind Wayland and X.org by cheesybagel · · Score: 3, Informative

      What I did manage to grasp from his talk is that the basic X design which he claims is terrible has remained for the most part while their fantastic new designs for things like XInput keep getting obsoleted one after the other. That he does not like the fact that X11 has a lot of extensions so his answer is to rewrite it. What will eventually happen if he ever has success is Wayland will get a lot of cruft as well.

      I also noticed he gave no demos of Wayland at all. He isn't even eating his own dogfood. At least the original X designers actually created it to solve a problem they had and they actually used it.

      His model of doing everything using pixmaps is also probably going to be a problem if displays keep going to higher resolutions as is happening recently. In that case you may spend a lot less bandwidth sending draw calls rather than the pixmaps.

      I also disagree about the claim that VNC is good enough.

  3. Re:any decent tiling WMs? by raxx7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes and no.

    Weston is only a reference implementation of a Wayland compositor.
    Wayland developers don't expect it actually to be used by normal users.

    Instead, they expect others to implement their own Wayland compositors, as it should not be any harder than writing a similar X Window Manager.
    That is what the Gnome, KDE and Enlightmenment people plan to do, convert their current X compositors (gnome shell, kwin, e) into Wayland compositors.

    So, eventually, you might get a dwm Wayland equivalent. But it doesn't exist yet.

  4. Re:Remoteability question restated by jbolden · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wayland is going to be implementing some like RDP to handle this. Wayland natively does not handle this. So if your question is in terms of "Wayland as it is likely to exist" then likely you will be able to do it. If your question is "Wayland by itself with none of the supporting ecosystem" no. On the other hand normal screen sharing stuff like VNC would work.

    What prevents it from being done is that Wayland applications share their graphical and application buffer. You can't pull it apart without virtualizing the entire screen like VNC.