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Scientists Seek Biomarkers For Violence

An anonymous reader writes "A Newtown couple, both scientists, who lost their daughter in the school shooting, are wondering whether there were clues in the shooter's physiological makeup — his DNA, his blood, his brain chemistry. They are now involved in a search for biomarkers, similar to those that may indicate disease, for violence. They are raising money to help fund this research, but the effort is running into obstacles, in part, over ethical concerns. 'I'm not opposed to research on violence and biomarkers, but I'm concerned about making too big of a leap between biomarkers and violence,' said Troy Duster, a researcher at the University of California at Berkeley. There is concern that science may find biomarkers long before society can deal with its implications."

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  1. So what then? by N0Man74 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "This guy has a biomarker for violence... Shoot him! Get him before he attacks!"

    I'm reminded of the parody video from The Onion (I think) where you had a jock who was killing the misfits at his high school so that they wouldn't snap and create another columbine.

  2. Re:AC Post by war4peace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Makes sense in most cases.
    More on-topic: Just today I was reading about a guy with Down Syndrome managing to pass exams in my country which would be the equivalent of post-high school exams. He even passed with pretty good grades, while lots of "healthy" individuals failed soundly.

    How does that link to this article? Well, even if people with Down Syndrome usually can't achieve that, some do. I think the same would apply to biomarkers: they might raise awareness but definitely wouldn't bring certainty that violence WILL occur. It's pretty dangerous to make assumptions based on the fact that you "might" become violent.

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  3. Re:AC Post by war4peace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To top it off, I have a pretty sizable inner potential for violence. The road I took in order to control my impulses was long, windy and hard. I can say I've been "cured" mostly, although I still have occasional (short) outbursts.

    I'm thinking that a "gene" detective would still categorize me in a way which is less than flattering, so-to-speak.

    Now, those scientists who are trying to find biomarkers for violence are driven not by scientific curiosity, but vengeance. They are trying to "find all motherfuckers who resemble the motherfucker who killed our child". I'm not blaming them (it's a human impulse after all), but I don't think they deserve support either.

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  4. Re:AC Post by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What if these same markers are co-incident with those for creativity or genius? What if they are the same as those for compassion or charity, but part of a more holistic interaction, which results in the perceived different expression?

    "Be careful, lest in casting out your demon you exorcise the best thing in you."
    -- Friedrich Nietzsche

    What if our entire set of personal traits cannot be reduced to deterministic, binary markers?

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    Never been known to fail..."