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Ancient Mars Ocean Found?

astroengine writes "With the help of rover Curiosity, we now know that ancient Mars had large quantities of liquid water flowing across its surface. However, evidence for large bodies of water — i.e. seas/oceans — has been hard to come by. But using high-resolution orbital data, Caltech scientists now think they've found a long-dry river delta that once flowed into a very large body of water. Welcome to the Aeolis Riviera — the strongest evidence yet for a Martian coastline. "This is probably one of the most convincing pieces of evidence of a delta in an unconfined region — and a delta points to the existence of a large body of water in the northern hemisphere of Mars," said Roman DiBiase, Caltech postdoctoral scholar and lead author of the paper that was published (abstract) in the Journal of Geophysical Research."

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  1. Re:Water, or liquid. by formfeed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not all that flows is H2O. Not sure how they could determine the chemical composition of what formed these.

    Yeah. But they also found blueberries. And blueberries need water.

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  2. Re:Back to the future by Brett+Buck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Global warming is going to destroy the Earth's magnetic field or geodynamo? Is there anything global warming *can't* do?

  3. Northern lowlands, result of ancient collision by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One would expect a large body of water there. How the Universe Works "Extreme Planets" mentions a theory of Mars
    being hit by an object moving the Northern hemisphere crust to the Sorthern hemisphere.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2t2VkDYOfYM#t=12m33 (12:33 in, link starts there)
    I would assume leaving the Northern side lower as a result.

  4. Re:Water, or liquid. by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not all that flows is H2O. Not sure how they could determine the chemical composition of what formed these.

    Well, for that matter, the delta-like feature could have been sculpted by aliens. However, it's generally safe to rule out any absurdly unlikely reason when a far more likely one is available. There aren't a lot of candidates for alternate liquids to occur in large enough quantities at that location. In fact, I'm only aware of the one candidate, unless you want to resort to bonkers-level improbabilities (the chemical equivalent of "aliens did it")...

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  5. That's nice by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, I'm not kidding. It's really nice. It's the umpteemth conformation that Mars once had water. WE GET IT. MARS ONCE HAD WATER. Boots. Mars. Do it, NASA. This isn't rocket science.

    1. Re:That's nice by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Boots. Mars. Do it, NASA. This isn't rocket science.

      No, unfortunately it's political science.

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  6. Re:"we now know" or "we hypothesize" by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Informative

    Indeed. Just off the top of my head:

    Gypsum sand and gypsum inclusions in rock strata.
    Calcium and sodium perchlorate salts
    Hydrated silica clay

    All three of those require not just water, but often standing pools of water. The perchlorates especially, which at least on earth, form when salt water is slowly evaporated under exposure from strong UV radiation. Gypsum is a hydrated calcium sulphate salt, and requires liquid water to crystallize.

    The hydrated silica clay can from just from ambient soil moisture working its magic on feldspar minerals, but usually requies active weathering. Like, rain.

    As the parent said, there is ample evidence of water having been on mars. Lots of water.

  7. Re:Marvelous news by As_I_Please · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If it were up to me, I'd prefer that Martian life had no relation to life on Earth. Two results from this:

    1) It will give us new information on the kinds of life that can exist (Is it carbon-based? Does it need water?). Similarities add constraints on how life must be; differences remove them.
    2) It will all but prove that life is plentiful in the universe. If life independently emerged twice in the same solar system, then wherever it is possible for life to exist, it will be found.

  8. Re:"we now know" or "we hypothesize" by Cenan · · Score: 3, Informative
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  9. Re:Water, or liquid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Mars used to be Class M, then sure it had roddenberries.

  10. Re:Back to the future by dadelbunts · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its global CLIMATE CHANGE. And it leads to cooler winters. YOUR ICE CREAM HAS BEEN MADE. SIR

  11. Well, we know where that comes from by ControlFreal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is all caused by XKCD.

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