Slashdot Mirror
Welcome To the 'Sharing Economy'
An anonymous reader writes "Thomas Friedman writes in the NY Times about the economy that's grown around Airbnb, a company built on helping people rent out their unused rooms to other users. He writes, 'Airbnb has also spawned its own ecosystem — ordinary people who will now come clean your home, coordinate key exchanges, cook dinner for you and your guests, photograph rooms for rent, and through the ride-sharing business Lyft, turn their cars into taxis to drive you around. "It used to be that corporations and brands had all the trust," added [CEO Brian Chesky], but now a total stranger, "can be trusted like a company and provide the services of a company. And once you unlock that idea, it is so much bigger than homes. ... There is a whole generation of people that don't want everything mass produced. They want things that are unique and personal."' Friedman refers to this as the 'sharing economy,' but a 'trust economy' seems more apt. He points this out himself: 'Afterward, guests and hosts rate each other online, so there is a huge incentive to deliver a good experience because a series of bad reputational reviews and you're done. Airbnb also automatically provides $1 million in insurance against damage or theft to nearly all of its hosts (some countries have restrictions) and only rarely gets claims. This framework of trust has unlocked huge value from unused bedrooms.'"
Garden sharing is another great thing. I wish something like this existed here. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/sep/02/garden-sharing-growing-vegetables. And here is a TEDx talk about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya6zndBObHY
The Locust Economy
Trust is nice, and touchy-feely and new-world 'n' all. Though indemnity is better - but it costs.
politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
Anyone care to link to a real article with a little more breadth?
Depth? Thomas Friedman?
Watch this Heartland Institute video
Trust relies on people being trustworthy. If people as a whole were trustworthy, corporations wouldn't exist.
It's the same reason why communes work only on a very small scale.
At some scale, diverging views of "fairnes" set in and people will stop cooperating without reserve.
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
Someone actually reads Thomas Friedman as not satire? I thought the NYT just put him in for comic relief.
Maybe it'll encourage governments to develop saner tax rules.
I encountered something similar with Timebank in NZ - I cannot give my time if I'd be doing anything related to my job. You can see the point of view of the taxman here (it'd be equivalent to cash in hand), but it is insane.
early on, we teach children to share. sharing does not mean, "yeah, you can have the ball but it's going to cost you" which is _exactly_ what this is. this is renting. it's even been made this into a business and they call these "sharing" places, hotels and motels.
sharing is communism. your children are communists.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Isn't this like unreported employment, where workers have no rights and the state gets nothing (for maintaining the infrastructures used). I know /. is US-centric and my little European country seems communist to most of you (I'm from France). But seriously unreported employment is a bad idea, although it might look better than unenployment. Firstly, it's a downhill to slavery, like the world was before the introduction of labour laws. And secondly, it's not sharing at all because there is no collectivity in such shemes. It's everyone is on its own without any place for a collective structure, which is obviously not the way humankind has eveloved for the last couple of thousands of years.
These deregulated systems are utopias that only work if people are equally smart and potent, which will definitely never be the case.
Video of some good progressive thrash music
Nope. Not gonna last. How do you tax kindness? If I let my hairdresser use my car for her groceries in exchange for a haircut, no money changes hands and no taxes are paid.
That's not gonna last long.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The emergence of the corporation had virtually nothing to do with the trustworthiness of people. Your understanding of both the utility of the corporation and of human nature is fundamentally flawed.
Write failed: Broken pipe
If you own the property, it's usually not illegal. Mind you, a lot of cities are now in process or have already banned airbnb and similar services. They don't want residential areas become tourist infested, or they want to be able to tax the hell out of people making money with their properties.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
A lot of these kind of services are successful because people tend to stay under the radar of tax collecting agencies. Once the gubbament starts figuring out how to tax all this, most of these sort of initiatives die because it's no longer economically viable to a lot of the people offering services. The side effect is that often, because people have to make it their official business, they will need to get mandatory permits, licenses, diploma's and insurance as well. These and taxing often kill informal "small businesses" and kill the economy. We need a side economy, or a "liberal enough" legislation to allow initiatives like these to foster. Unfortunately, with the current fear and economic crisis, it's going to be hard to keep that from happening.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
I wish I had mod points to mod you up. Thomas Friedman will say something is bad one day and that it is good the next with the only difference being that on the "bad" day it was done by someone he politically opposes and on the "good" day it was done by someone he politically supports.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Wouldn't it be nice if we made our administrative system work around daily life, rather than the other way around?
bit coin is the same too. Te government has yet to shut it down. The banks are starting to try by disallowing exchanges of bit coin to real money n the exchanges. But in france a large bank has issues a visa cad that is linked to your bit coin account. So its hard to say which way it will all go.
Come on Friedmann, key parties aren't new, they've been around since the 70s!
Monstar L
Yes it was
A lot of the small businesses at the time were scam artists and had crappy products. Corporations made a somewhat better product with consistent quality
The state has no use for money if you think about it a bit longer. The reason the state has to take money as payment for tax, is to pay wages to other people performing work for the state. You could cut out the money middleman and take labor as payment directly.
Instead of paying a set percentage of your wages as tax, you could be required to clock a certain amount of hours in your field of expertise for the community. Of course, that would mean that the rich fat cats get off their arse and work (since fleecing people isn't a workable skill in that system), so in that sense it is a doomed idea. It illustrates an alternative nonetheless, and requires a change of mindset about how we work together.
... whatever
Instead of paying a set percentage of your wages as tax, you could be required to clock a certain amount of hours in your field of expertise for the community.
Yeah. That's going to get roads built and maintained. This money thing may seem evil if you don't have a lot of it, but there is a reason that it has lasted for millennia. It's a damn good system compared to a barter economy, and paying taxes beats feudal serfdom any day of the week. But hey, some modern humans like living in the past to the point of taking nutrition tips from people that had an average lifespan of 30 miserable years so schemes like this will pop up and quickly fall apart for years to come.
and they change taxi like rates any ways.
insurance / liability is a big one do you want be in an accident be in your car, in an lyft car, a pedestrian, and so one. So while you are in the hospital with billes racking up as the all of insurances are fighting over who has liability?
Some of the same stuff can come up with pizza drivers who auto insurance likely does not cover pizza delivery and you can be in a place where the drivers insurance says we don't cover that and your own insurance says why should we pay when you are not at fault.
It's the same reason why communes work only on a very small scale.
This is something people misunderstand about Stalin. He's often portrayed as a murderous megalomaniac, but in reality he was just trying to keep the population small enough for communism to function properly.
It's kind of like when you shoot deer out of a helicopter for the good of the ecosystem.
how many pairs of boxer shorts should you own?
But that's not why corporations came about. Individuals could certainly produce better product with consistent quality if they chose to.
Corporations are about:
-pooling a lot of capital together to do something
-minimize personal liability for doing it
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
Well, government has considered it unwieldy for a time now to manipulate, handle and store chickens and sows. Numbers on accounts are a lot handier.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.