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Former WaPo Staffer Rob Pegoraro Talks About Newspapers' Decline (Video)

Newpapers. Remember them? The printout editions of websites like NYTimes.com, WSJ.com, and Rob Pegoraro's former workplace, WashingtonPost.com? Rob still writes for USAToday.com and its printout edition, but as a freelancer, not on staff. He's one of few newspaper layoff victims who has managed to hustle up enough freelance work to make a decent living. He's even on Boing Boing and Discovery.com. Where else? Tiny shots on various TV news programs, and one-off articles here and there. He's a hard-working and prolific guy, and he's had an insider's view of the decline of the newspaper industry and the rise of the online news business. In this interview he talks about both -- and adds a few cautionary notes for Rob Malda, the Slashdot co-founder who is now a Washington Post employee.

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  1. The reasons have disappeard. by intermodal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People have bought newspapers over the years for many reasons, and thanks to the Internet, almost all of them have dried up. I can get news from any of a hundred or more countries from the comfort of my computer. No longer am I captive to newspapers to tell me how yesterday's stocks did, find a used car, or look up movie and stage showtimes. Meanwhile, local print news outlets have been bought by major news companies and turned into watered down versions of their parent company's product, with a few local fluff pieces.

    If there's a niche for print news left in the world, they'd better find it quick. If they don't, someone else will find it and put it on a website.

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    In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
    1. Re:The reasons have disappeard. by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      If there's a niche for print news left in the world, they'd better find it quick. If they don't, someone else will find it and put it on a website.

      How about simply having a pile of news available about stuff that one may not be interested in, but to simply have it available?

      Sure you can read it on a website, but if you "pull" information (request it), people tend to just pull the things that interest them.

      This leads to narrow mindedness and basically filtering of news. Take for example, /. - there's a pile of stuff /. does NOT cover, but one ought to know about if nothing more than general interest or to be a bit more "worldly" and informed about the world. (And judging by many conversations, the /. crowd is probably highly misinformed on a lot of things, even things that concern them, like IP laws).

      Hell, when something not tech related gets posted on /., the first few comments are invariably "not news" or "irrelevant" - expecting that they'd read about it elsewhere (when in all likelihood, they won't).

      A newspaper, though, has all the articles right there on the page. Perhaps an interesting photo or headline captures your interest, it's easy to skim it just to see if it's of more interest.

      Or perhaps there's something particularly big happening because a lot of pages are dedicated to it - what was just a few links on a website suddenly takes a whole new form when you see pages of ink about it.

      And hell, if nothing more, sometimes it's good to see just what the public cares about - because if you can't relate what you're saying to what they care about, you're like an unclicked link on a new website.

      And yesterday's news is valuable - because it covers stuff that you probably missed or not cared enough about in real time. I don't obsess over the stock market to want to know it to the minute, but I might want to know how it did yesterday overall Or maybe it was something interesting that influenced the markets but I never would be interested otherwise. Or find out what's going on in the middle east which I don't care about knowing now, but if there's an article I could skim easily without having to click to read it, I would.

      Newspapers also provide a good summary of what happened yesterday for stuff I didn't care about knowing immediately, but could wait a day. It's like the girlfriend who got woken up by her boyfriend on 9/11 and asked "does it affect me now?" and went back to sleep. Because it wasn't going to affect her, and she'd find out about it some other way. Even the next day would be sufficient.

      Plus, most news websites are just terrible.

  2. Read All About It in the Video by unamiccia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ironic that you can't actually read Mr. Pegoraro's comments. Sometime in the last five years or so it became easier to videorecord something than it is to write the same something down. Which may have something to do with the decline of newspapers.

    1. Re:Read All About It in the Video by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      It takes much longer to watch a video than to read an article.

      On Yahoo/CNBC, I read the article over listening to the video.

      Perhaps there is some way to feed the video into Google Voice.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    2. Re:Read All About It in the Video by Roblimo · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Hide/Show Transcript" - right below the video.

  3. Editorial bias, anyone? by techvet · · Score: 2

    So many of the papers leaned to the left so far, that many moderates and conservatives said "Forget about it." Amazing that he makes no allusion to that as a possible cause. I have subscribed all these years but am aware of how many lefties staff the newsroom and the editorial boards.

  4. What destroyed my "reverence" by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a nutshell, the lead-up to the Iraq war. This all happened as I was just getting into politics and at the time I was a voracious consumer of news, up to even trying to read legislation (not with much success as I have no legal training). It was blatantly obvious to anyone who followed the news at any beyond a cursory level that we were all being conned into a war and all of the major news outlets were in on the fix. Either they were enabling or simply too afraid to dissent. Even the mighty New York Times had Judith Miller serving as a government mouthpiece.

    It seems to be even worse now. I gave up on 60 minutes after watching Lara "look at my tits" Logan do everything short of fellate an Army general in an interview where he was selling unpopular US military strategy.

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    I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
  5. Who's being interviewed? by Cyrano+de+Maniac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Geez. Mr. Pegoraro barely gets a word in here and there. And on top of that the whole interview gets bogged down in uninteresting irrelevant crap about circumventing paywalls and AdBlock. What could have been an interesting interview with Mr. Pegoraro regarding the paper to phosphors transition of the news industry was squandered with Roblimo telling us how cool and smart he is.

    I don't often complain about /., but this is the interview quality I'd expect coming from an average high school freshman. Completely not worth your time to watch.

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    Cyrano de Maniac
    1. Re:Who's being interviewed? by guttentag · · Score: 2

      Mr. Pegoraro barely gets a word in here and there.

      Agreed. Let's have a do-over.

      How about an "Ask Rob Pegoraro About Traditional News Decline" story where people submit questions, moderators bring the cream to the top and Rob selects the ones he feels he can best answer? He'd be totally in his element because he did almost exactly that in The Post's Live Online discussions (where readers would submit tech questions and he would select the ones he wanted to answer). He wasn't at DigitalInk/WPNI when they started the transition to digital (for that you'd want to talk to Don Brazeal), but he was there in The Post newsroom when they brought it back in-house and got to see the effects of staffing cuts as the newspaper responded to declining circulation and ad revenue.

  6. Treeware rules for local news by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2

    It's easy to follow the big national and international events with on-line sources. If anything, it's hard not to have them shoved down your throat (I'm almost surprised /. doesn't have an article about the Kate Middleton giving birth to the new heir; there has to be a techy, geek angle somewhere). What isn't so easy to get on-line are the local interest articles that you didn't know you were interested in. Things like the local city council discussing a change to zoning that will allow a Wallmart to be built across the street from where you live and road "improvement" projects that will make your currently pleasant commute into a trip through hell. Also, there is usually lots of coverage of local and state level politics that we probably all should pay a lot more attention to. That sort of thing.

    What on-line lacks is the ability to flip through the news pages linearly. Most news sites are arranged in a tree-like structure that allows users to drill down to a specific article on a particular subject if they know what they are looking for. What they don't allow you to do is quickly scan articles looking first at the headline and then at the next couple of lines if the headline is interesting to determine if you want or should keep reading. And who goes looking for what local road projects are planned that will mess with their commute before the "road closed" sign shows up?

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
    Ben