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Indian Army Mistook Planets For Spy Drones

hackingbear writes "BBC reports that India's army spent six months watching 'Chinese spy drones' violating its air space, only to find out they were actually Jupiter and Venus. Between last August and February, Indian troops had already documented 329 sightings of unidentified objects over a lake in the border region next to China. India accused the objects being Chinese spy drones. The incident even escalated to a military build-up and a stand-off at border between the two countries. Residents of the solar system are glad that India does not possess the capability to shoot down such high altitude objects."

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  1. Just FYI by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 5, Insightful

    India has nuclear weapons. Sleep tight.

    1. Re:Just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      With the collaboration of the NSA, now they can identify Uranus.

    2. Re:Just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not a big deal. I once emptied a magazine at Canopus before I realized what was going on. We've all been there.

    3. Re:Just FYI by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      India has more than nuclear weapons. It has nuclear armed neighbors (Pakistan, China) with designs on its territory. One of those neighbors, Pakistan, has fought several wars against India, and has been both a host and sponsor of terrorism against India. Pakistan is riddled with terrorists and faces an insurgency by Islamists of the Taliban flavor for control of the country, and ultimately its nuclear weapons. India is not far from Afghanistan, long a hot bed of extremist Islam and terrorists. India has fought skirmishes against the Chinese army in the past, and Chinese troops have occupied territory claimed by India. India also has an insurgency in part of the country by Maoist guerillas. (That would be Mao as in Chairman Mao, former leader of the People's Republic of China.) There is little distance separating India from Iran. Iran is a major sponsor of Islamist extremists, and terrorism world wide. Iran also has long range missiles, and has been found to have developed plans for a nuclear warhead that would fit their missiles. Iran is currently refining uranium on a growing number of centrifuges. Another neighbor is Myanmar nee Burma, which was reported to be developing nuclear weapons with cooperation from North Korea (which also isn't that far away).

      Now India as well as China has long range ballistic missiles: Signs of an Asian Arms Buildup in India’s Missile Test. Pakistan has medium and intermediate range missiles.

      India is developing a missile defense system: India to have shield from missiles of 5,000 km range

      India, as well as China, is buying and building aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines.

      Nearly all European nations resist nuclear weapons. Many Europeans and Americans resist missile defense. Europe's defenses have been shrinking massively since the end of the Cold War. The next century may be very interesting indeed. Some may find it humbling.

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      much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  2. They have the perfect defense against drones by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can just request the drone to do the needful and reboot itself into safe mode.

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  3. Wait a minute... by RileyBryan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats no planet, thats a battle station!

  4. Re:Walk before you run by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Time to watch Dr. Strangelove again and take copious notes...

    Maybe they should make a Bollywood version.

  5. Incorrect sensationalist summary by kaka.mala.vachva · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since most won't RTFA - the confrontation didn't happen or escalate over the sightings. That was because the Chinese army setup camp in Indian territory. During that time soldiers reported these sightings, and the army (responsibly) went to the Indian Institute of Astrophysics for confirmation. This won't stop the India bashing of course, but hopefully someone will read this post or TFA.

  6. Re:Walk before you run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would pay to see that. Especially the dance sequence.

  7. Re:I will restrain from comment... by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Technically the goverment got it correct. Army officers reported unidentified objects they believed to be drones. A branch of the goverment checked and discovered they were planets. So +1 for goverments versus stupid individuals.

  8. Re:Walk before you run by slew · · Score: 5, Informative

    People in the society (e.g., India) understand, but of course some people (e.g., messr Singh) was a bit less informed... From the original article...

    Army lance naik Sheminderpal Singh — a regular observer at Point 4715 — told the astronomers that he had noticed a delay of four minutes in the appearance of one of the objects each consecutive day. Singh also told them that the object seemed to be the brightest light in the sky and always appeared to move with respect to the stars.

    The IIAP team told the Indian Army to use an instrument called a theodolite to record the horizontal angle and vertical elevation of the two objects. Army personnel performed these observations between February 17 and 22 and submitted the data to the IIAP.

    The astronomers have concluded that the object observed from Point 4715 is Jupiter as the observations coincide with the planet’s diurnal motion and the apparent motion of the object due to the rotation of the Earth.

    The description of the second unidentified object that appeared early in the morning suggests that it is Venus, which is currently moving behind the Sun and will in the coming months appear as an evening object.

    The IIAP team said stars and planets over the horizon in Ladakh appear very bright because of increased atmospheric transparency at the high altitude and both Jupiter and Venus at the time were the brightest planets in the sky.

    The astronomers also clarified that objects that rise in the east may appear to be moving across the LAC and approaching the Indian side.

    Of course venus and jupiter get mistaken for UFOs by many folks from time to time, but inflating the mistakes of an individual, to the group to which they are a member makes for a better tagline...

  9. Re:Walk before you run by toygeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    They could call it "Dr. Strangelove does the needful"

  10. What would have happened.. by abalacha · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am an Indian - so let me try to fill in the possible missing pieces in the story and the cultural perspective.

    First of all the China-India border, especially in Ladakh is very tense with China occupying a border region called Aksai Chin for many decades. The Indian Army soldiers, who are most likely from the plains and who have never seen the sky in all its high altitude glory (we are talking about 15,000 - 20,000 ft altitude here) were likely tasked with looking out at the night sky and see anything 'interesting' - the officer who issued the order must have meant Chinese drones, but by the time the order got to the lookout guy from the officer via the JCO through the sergeant, it must have read look out for something 'bright'. The soldiers were seeing the brightest planets in their lives and obviously had plenty to write in their reports.

    Then the sighting reports started pouring in and the officer in charge probably got suspicious and looked out and concluded that the objects were likely celestial. But just to make sure that he is right, he must have ringed up the battalion HQ to get some astronomy duded flown in to get a confirmation. That is probably why the request went straight to Indian Institute of Astrophysics. The astro-dudes flew in, confirmed that they are looking at planets and on their way back talked to a journalist about the incident and how stuuuuuuupid the army guys were.

    That, I guess what would have happened.

  11. Re:Walk before you run by cusco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In all fairness, if Mr. Singh was from a low altitude and this was his first high altitude posting it's somewhat understandable that he wouldn't recognize the planets for what they were. Jupiter and Venus are really bright at altitude, brighter than he would ever have seen anything that wasn't human in origin. That he noticed a delay of four minutes each day is surprising, and really quite commendable.

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  12. Moon sets the U.S. into motion by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When the U.S. installed one of the first Radar stations to catch Russian missiles as they came over the hemisphere. The Moon set off one of the first alerts, was a tad too sensitive.

    Best cite I can come up with; but a common snicker when I was growing up.
    http://nuclearfiles.org/menu/key-issues/nuclear-weapons/issues/accidents/20-mishaps-maybe-caused-nuclear-war.htm
    "The rising moon was misinterpreted as a missile attack during the early days of long-range radar."