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Open Source Drug Discovery Prompts a Fundamental Heart Failure Breakthrough

An anonymous reader writes "Case-Western researchers, led by Saptarsi Haldar MD., have made a fundamental discovery that could prevent heart failure after reviewing the "chemical recipe" for a cancer-treating molecule made open source by Jay Bradner MD. (whose TED Talk articulates the open source approach to drug discovery) This cross-discipline discovery, which was published in the August 2013 issue of CELL, is a fundamental breakthrough in heart failure research, and highlights the value of an open source approach outside of software development."

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  1. Awe Man! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's this?! Everyone jumping on the Socialist-Commie-Pinko Open movement?!?

    WTF!

    Before you know it, IP with be severely weakened and all of us will have increased standard of living - except for the poor poor billionaires!

    Won't someone think of the billionaires?!

    Without the billionaires lording over us, what will inspire us?

    We need IP to keep up the carriers to entry! We need to impede progress in order to preserve the billionaires! Our way of life will be destroyed!

    1. Re:Awe Man! by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The companies that those billionaires own are what drive the economy and do things like grow and distribute our food.

      No, the people working the fields grow the food and the people driving the trucks and manning the cash register distribute it. And even the organizational work is mostly done by middle managers. All the billionaires do is get a cut of other people's work and occasionally destroy their livelihoods.

      Sure, I can read an open-source book or listen to open-source music, but typically I prefer the commercial products.

      And you think it takes a billionaire to write a book or a song?

      In other words, if you give a man a hammer, all he will see are nails.

      And if you give him a billion dollars, all he will see are the serfs he's entitled to.

      --

      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  2. TED talk explains how the OSS philosophy applies by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative
    Anonymous Coward wrote:

    What does it mean for a molecule to have source?

    It can refer to what Eric S. Raymond referred to as the "bazaar" model, or it can refer to a license that grants rights to the public analogous to those listed in the DFSG or FSF definition of free software. I see hints of bazaar in the transcript of the TED talk:

    dissatisfied with the performance and quality of these medicines, I went back to school in chemistry with the idea that perhaps by learning the trade of discovery chemistry and approaching it in the context of this brave new world of the open-source, the crowd-source, the collaborative network that we have access to within academia, that we might more quickly bring powerful and targeted therapies to our patients.

    And here I see the spirit of publishing a discovery instead of locking it up behind secrecy and exclusive rights:

    We published a paper that described this finding at the earliest prototype stage. We gave the world the chemical identity of this molecule, typically a secret in our discipline. We told people exactly how to make it.

    This leads up to the benefits of bazaar and publication:

    the science that's coming back from all of these laboratories about the use of this molecule has provided us insights that we might not have had on our own. Leukemia cells treated with this compound turn into normal white blood cells.

    And finally, a direct answer to your question as to what is the source code of a molecule:

    This string of letters and numbers and symbols and parentheses that can be texted, I suppose, or [microblogged] worldwide, is the chemical identity of our pro compound.

  3. Re:Well Duh: Open Source is better by the+gnat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't even bother arguing that profit motivates progress. The overwhelming majority of researchers and engineers are motivated by the joy of success, not crushing the opposition and getting filthy rich.

    The problem with drug development is that the huge majority of efforts end in failure, and depending on how far along the pipeline the drugs are, these failures can be painfully expensive. Truth is, it's not really all that difficult or costly to come up with a nanomolar inhibitor for some key regulatory protein involved in heart disease or cancer. But that doesn't mean you've cured the disease. You might synthesize a molecule that completely shuts down your target protein, and start doing in-vivo studies. Here's where the bad shit starts: maybe your compound can't get past the cell membrane. Or maybe it gets shunted to the liver and immediately degraded - unless it fucks up the liver, of course (which one of the major reasons for negative drug interactions, and why many medications have labels saying "do not consume alcohol"). Or let's say it gets to exactly where it needs to be, but it also binds with high affinity to seven other proteins, three of which we know nothing about, and all of these are essential for other processes. So you come in the next morning, and half of your test mice are belly-up, another quarter are bleeding rectally, and the remainder will promptly croak if you feed them Tylenol.

    If you're really unlucky, your drug passes the animal models easily, and makes it into clinical trials with actual sick humans. If you're really, really unlucky, you make it all the way to Phase III trials, with thousands of patients, and only then do you discover that either a) your drug doesn't really work as well as it needs to, or b) a large fraction of patients manifest severe side effects over time, or c) both. At this point the cumulative expense of developing this candidate may be hundreds of millions of dollars. And companies fail at this stage all the time; it's always big news when this happens, and their market capitalization takes it in the ass.

    Now, I don't feel terribly sympathetic for drug companies as a whole; they do some pretty sleazy shit, and have paid some well-deserved fines for their malfeasance. But I would find it incredibly depressing to sink years of my life (and millions of dollars of investor money) into a promising clinical candidate, only to have it fail just shy of the endpoint. I'm an academic scientist, and this is one of the reasons why I've stayed in academia so long, for all of its faults. I get paid less, but I don't have to devote myself to narrowly-scoped projects which have a depressingly high risk of failure. If I had to start doing drug discovery as part of some newly nationalized research plan, I would leave without hesitation. Sorry, but if you want me to spend my life doing something that mind-numbing and soul-crushing, you'd fucking better pay decently me for it. The overwhelming majority of people who know anything about drug discovery will tell you the same thing.

    PS #1: Please, explain how the extraordinary improvement in computer hardware since WWII was encouraged by lack of patents. Another counter-example: genome sequencing technology has become orders of magnitude faster in the last dozen or so years. (No, I'm not arguing that we should patent everything; I'm still against patents on software and gene sequences.)

    PS #2: Don't assume that scientists aren't motivated by crushing the opposition. That's part of the joy of success, and while we may not be doing it for the money, our egos are at least as big as everyone else's.