Slashdot Mirror


Researchers Develop New Trap To Capture Bloodsucking Bed Bugs

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Bedbugs (Cimex lectularius) are small blood-sucking insects that can live in cracks and crevices in and around your bed and crawl out at night to bite your exposed skin and feed on your blood, just as mosquitoes do. Now BBC reports that researchers from the Rutgers University Department of Entomology have developed a new trap that has a 77% probability of capturing bed bugs, nearly three times as many bed bugs over 28 days (PDF), as the the Climbup insect interceptor trap, which the authors cite as the best monitor on the market. A better trap design can allow people to detect bed bugs while they are still in small numbers. 'If you have only 10 or 20 bugs in your apartment, it's very hard to see with your eyes,' says Lead author Narinderpal Singh. 'When people realize they have bed bugs they are often already in their thousands, or hundred thousands. It's relatively easy to eradicate the bed bugs when they are in small numbers, but when they are everywhere, it's very hard to eradicate them.' The device can be created at home very cheaply and consists of a plastic dog bowl that's been inverted, with the outer wall covered with a layer of dyed-black surgical tape. The researchers contend that higher walls make their trap more effective than the interceptor trap because it's harder for bugs to escape."

141 comments

  1. BedBugRegistry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you North East!!!! http://www.bedbugregistry.com/

  2. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    The device can be created at home very cheaply and consists of a plastic dog bowl that's been inverted, with the outer wall covered with a layer of dyed-black surgical tape.

    After years of research and government grants, we have invented ... a black dog bowl. ;-)

    --
    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    1. Re:Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The problem was solved hundreds of years ago. Spreading bay leaves or kidney bean leaves in the infested rooms traps all the bedbugs.

    2. Re: Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After years of advertising budgets told us we had to buy a special trap at inflated prices from a for-profit rip-off^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcompany!

    3. Re:Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That has other issues, though - like how to use them on anything but flat floors, or how to get a large enough supply of fresh leaves to everyone all year (they don't work when dry).

    4. Re:Wow ... by gewalker · · Score: 1

      I was just hoping we could adapt this research and use it on politicians. Bedbugs don't have nearly the negative impact on my life as those bloodsuckers do.

    5. Re:Wow ... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Optimizing the trap shape was just one factor. It also looked at different baits used in conjunction with the trap.

      --
      Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
    6. Re:Wow ... by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Please tell me where I can purchase fresh kidney bean leaves in Iowa, in January, and in large quantities.

      Just because a solution exists does not mean it's practical, or even possible to implement.

    7. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Please tell me where I can purchase fresh kidney bean leaves in Iowa, in January, and in large quantities.

      Just because a solution exists does not mean it's practical, or even possible to implement.

      The same place you get your zucchini from, most likely. Argentina or someplace like that. It's Summer down there.

    8. Re: Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used scrunched up plastic sheets which confuses the little buggers - they freak out when they get stuck. That combined with flea spray sorted the problem pretty quickly but this was in a modern apartment.
      It's a horrible problem as you keep finding them for months and it does make you paranoid.

    9. Re:Wow ... by bonehead · · Score: 1

      So now I need to travel to Argentina to handle a bug problem? Because I'm reasonably sure that there are no businesses around here actively importing kidney bean leaves. I've definitely never seen them in WalMart or any of the grocery stores I shop at.

      What local chain do you typically purchase your truckloads of kidney bean leaves from?

    10. Re:Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used heavily scrunched up plastic sheets. The buggers would get confused and even seemed to freak out when they couldn't dig down. That combined with pet flea spray (pemerithrin) which dried them out seem to work pretty well.
      It's a horrible problem to have as you keep finding them for months and it makes you paranoid.

    11. Re:Wow ... by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      If they really do work to trap bedbugs, this could be a good opportunity for an importer to start bringing them in. Of course that's only useful if they work better than a black dog bowl.

    12. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      So now I need to travel to Argentina to handle a bug problem? Because I'm reasonably sure that there are no businesses around here actively importing kidney bean leaves. I've definitely never seen them in WalMart or any of the grocery stores I shop at.

      What local chain do you typically purchase your truckloads of kidney bean leaves from?

      Haven't you heard? There's this thing called The Market. It's the Cure for Everything.

      Seriously. They don't ship produce up from South America and into local stores for idle amusement. They ship it because people buy it. Like Yerba Maté, Chilean wines, Brazilian citrus, and other things that either don't grow in the US or have high enough out-of-season demands.

    13. Re:Wow ... by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Yes, that was my entire fucking point. They don't import the damn leaves and sell them here, because nobody buys them.

      Which makes the whole "we already have a solution, just use bean leaves" argument pretty fucking stupid since there is no realistic way to acqure them in quantity in any sort of reasonable time frame.

    14. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Yes, that was my entire fucking point. They don't import the damn leaves and sell them here, because nobody buys them.

      Which makes the whole "we already have a solution, just use bean leaves" argument pretty fucking stupid since there is no realistic way to acqure them in quantity in any sort of reasonable time frame.

      Think about it.

      It wasn't that long ago that you couldn't find Peruvian quinoa in the supermarket either. But then someone started touting the glories of quinoa, people started asking about it, and lo! Other people saw an opportunity. And now we're up to our armpits in quinoa.

      It's not like store inventories were created 6000 years ago and have never evolved.

    15. Re:Wow ... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > The same place you get your zucchini from, most likely.
      > Argentina or someplace like that. It's Summer down there.

      Have you ever _been_ to the Midwest?

      I live in Ohio (which is more than five times as populous as Iowa), and I've never seen zucchini in the winter time, for sale or otherwise. It's a seasonal product, and by the time the end of the season rolls around, everyone's pretty well tired of it, so there's no reason for anyone to import any more. (Some of the larger grocery chains, such as Meijer, do ship it in from the south in the spring, starting the zucchini season a bit early, before the local growers have any ready. They also do this with fresh strawberries -- although strawberries are also available year-round, frozen. But I've never seen it in the late fall or early winter.)

      I've never seen kidney bean leaves at all. Kidney beans come in a can, or in a bag if you get the dried ones; if they're grown around here, I'm not aware of it. We grow green beans (numerous varieties of these) and wax beans for human consumption and huge quantities of soybeans for use as hog feed (and also for export to California and/or Asia). I've seen purple-bean (similar to green beans, but purple) plants a couple of times. I've also seen pea plants (most commonly the sugar-snap variety); but I've never seen a kidney bean plant.

      Bay leaves are available year-round in the spice section, but of course they're always dried, the same as cloves or cinnamon sticks or any other spice. (*Most* spices always come dried and _ground_, but bay leaves are usually whole so that you can theoretically remove the leaf from the soup before serving it, which is what the recipes always say to do, though I think most folks don't actually bother with that. Dill, spearmint, and ginger are notable for being spices that are occasionally available fresh, though I think ginger is the only one that's *imported* fresh -- the other two can be grown here and are only available fresh when in season, so far as I know.)

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
    16. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      > The same place you get your zucchini from, most likely.
      > Argentina or someplace like that. It's Summer down there.

      Have you ever _been_ to the Midwest?

      I live in Ohio (which is more than five times as populous as Iowa), and I've never seen zucchini in the winter time, for sale or otherwise.

      Maybe that explains the "chili". When my grandmother made chili and dumped spaghetti in it, we thought she was trying to poison us!

      Evidently Kroger isn't all it's cracked up to be. If we don't get summer squashes year-round here, they're not absent long enough to notice. Likewise fresh strawberries. Then again, the strawberry season starts in South Florida, works its way up to about New Jersey, California takes over somewhere in there, and I think South America rounds it out until it all begins anew.

      I don't know any place that sells bean leaves. But given enough bedbugs, I have no doubt that that would change.

      I once tried to eat a bay leaf. You're better off eating wood chips and the flavor of the actual leaf is a bit too intense. So I do try and scoop them out before serving. But I have a small bay laurel in a pot, so I hope to get them fresh soon.

      If you want a fresh herb that apparently grows virtually anywhere in North America, try epazote. That is, if your idea of spices extends to stuff that tastes like kerosene. It's useful in Mexican cookery, though.

    17. Re:Wow ... by pakar · · Score: 1

      Get in contact with a plants-store in one of the countries with an available supply and ask them to ship over night?

      Just because you cannot purchase the things locally you can always order online... And if enough people start doing it some local shops might start importing it on a regular basis..

      Or you will just have to wait for the summer...

    18. Re:Wow ... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > When my grandmother made chili and dumped
      > spaghetti in it, we thought she was trying to poison us!

      I don't know about putting spaghetti in it (that doesn't sound _bad_, but it does sound rather _odd_), but my mom makes "chili" that does not have any seasoning in it other than salt and maybe a half teaspoon of onion powder. It's basically a hamburger broth soup with kidney beans and diced tomato. Why is it called "chili"? Well, I don't know. I guess the name was available, because nobody in her circle of acquaintance has any experience with the genuine article.

      Traditional Midwestern homemade cuisine is, as a general rule, not real big on spices, especially the "hot" ones. Despite this, a lot of the food manages to be highly palatable. The canned fruits and jams are superb. The pasta is good, and the casseroles are generally not bad. The baked macaroni and cheese is great. I'd go through fire for a serving of mom's corned beef and applies. The desserts as a rule are fantastic, as long as you stick with ones made by people over age 40. (Young people keep getting the urge to make desserts out of trendy magazines, which tend to fall into one of three categories: either they recipe is so focused on being easy to make that it's completely lame, like making box-mix cupcakes in the microwave -- seriously, my sister does this -- or else it's so focused on being exotic and new that it's unaccountably bizarre, like Jell-O salad with cheddar cheese and beets and mayo in it, or else it's Yet Another Cream Cheese Thing. Skip all that. Always go for the desserts made by people who are using a recipe they got from an older person, such as their grandmother or an elderly woman from church. Those are always good.) Scalloped potatoes, sloppy joe, cornbread, muffins, biscuits, zucchini bread, pumpkin bread, deviled eggs, goulash (nothing at all like the Hungarian dish by the same name, but that's neither here nor there), baked beans, applesauce, pancakes, bacon and eggs, glazed carrots, cookies, cakes, pies, puddings, buckeyes, all very good.

      But the chili... yeah, not so awesome.

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
    19. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      > When my grandmother made chili and dumped
      > spaghetti in it, we thought she was trying to poison us!

      I don't know about putting spaghetti in it (that doesn't sound _bad_, but it does sound rather _odd_), but my mom makes "chili" that does not have any seasoning in it other than salt and maybe a half teaspoon of onion powder. It's basically a hamburger broth soup with kidney beans and diced tomato. Why is it called "chili"? Well, I don't know. I guess the name was available, because nobody in her circle of acquaintance has any experience with the genuine article.

      That's grandmom's recipe. She took that exact same formula, then dumped spaghetti in it. That's Cincinnati style.

      I've heard about "midwest spices". They called it "Spam" because it was Ham with Spices. Salt and pepper!

    20. Re:Wow ... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > She took that exact same formula, then dumped
      > spaghetti in it. That's Cincinnati style.

      Oh, I've heard my dad talk about Cincinnati-style chili, but I've never had it. I've only been down to Cinci a handful of times (five or six maybe, all told), and chili was never high on my list of things to experience while there. (There *are* things worth going there for. King's Island isn't Cedar Point, but it's not chopped liver either; the Beast alone is worth the admission price, if you ride it about three times. They've also got an excellent zoo and some nice museums -- though one of the best ones is across the river in Kentucky -- among other things.)

      > I've heard about "midwest spices". They called it "Spam"
      > because it was Ham with Spices. Salt and pepper!

      That "salt and pepper" thing is actually a misnomer. In fact, pepper is not widely used around here. Even sausage doesn't always contain pepper. My mom and one of my sisters categorically won't eat anything that contains it, period. (My other sister will eat sausage that contains a small amount of it, though, and Dad likes it in sausage and on eggs. Then there's me: I routinely use cayenne and have been known to cook with small amounts of habanero -- but I did get the idea to do so from anyone in Ohio.)

      The most widely used spice in Ohio cuisine is almost certainly cinnamon, which shows up in about a third of all our non-chocolate desserts (and a lower percentage of the chocolate ones).

      The other possible contender is onion powder, which is widely used in lieu of fresh onion.

      Other spices that are more common here than pepper include garlic (frequently used with onion powder in meat dishes; but a lot of people don't like it, including my mom), cloves (usually with cinnamon in desserts; also used in pickling and occasionally with oranges), nutmeg (usually with cinnamon in desserts, but in tiny amounts), oregano (mainly used in pasta sauce and pizza sauce), and basil (sometimes added to the oregano, albeit in smaller amounts).

      Oh, and I realize someone from outside the MIdwest might not agree, but my mom considers imitation vanilla flavoring to be a spice. We use a LOT of that. Whole tablespoons of it, practically every day. I bet I've eaten (food containing) more vanilla flavoring this month alone than black pepper in my entire life, past and future.

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
    21. Re:Wow ... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      I think there's basically 2 types of Cinci-style chili. The home-made recipe, described above, and the commercial chil parlour recipe, which is more like "real" red chili. Skyline actually packages (frozen) and sells their chili in supermarkets in Florida. It's "real" chili, and yes, cloves are definitely part of it. You have to supply your own spaghetti.

      When I said "pepper" in Spam, I meant black pepper, BTW. Capsicums are a little too exotic for them.

      I haven't been to King's Island since it was Coney (and moved). But I've been to the "bug house" at the zoo!

    22. Re:Wow ... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > When I said "pepper" in Spam, I meant black pepper, BTW.

      I assumed so.

      > I haven't been to King's Island since it was Coney (and moved).

      I was there when it was owned by Paramount, but I haven't been there since Cedar Fair took over. I imagine they've probably made improvements (and by "improvements" I primarily mean coasters), because that's how they roll. But I live in Galion, which is closer to Sandusky than it is to Cinci, so when we want to go to an amusement park we normally go to the Point. (As wimpy as Ohio may be in terms of spices, we're as hardcore as any place on earth when it comes to roller coasters.)

      > I've been to the "bug house" at the zoo!

      Yeah, the bug house was one of my favorite parts of that zoo too.

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  3. someone will get rich for sure by ClassicASP · · Score: 1

    simple idea, lots of people will want it. that ones almost as good as the post-it note. nobody wants bedbugs.

  4. So did the world beat it? by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    The path to their door, I mean...

    .

  5. This story bites. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This story bites. Enough said.

  6. Sticky tape? by jasno · · Score: 1

    So placing a sticky card under your bed won't work?

    Is there a place where a normal person can buy the chemical attractants?

    --

    http://www.masturbateforpeace.com/
    1. Re:Sticky tape? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You mean, yeast, sugar and water? Any supermarket. The article proves that CO2 cylinders are not better.
      Fascinating setup (the building they chose, how they collected and nurtured the bed bugs, that they kept someone living in the apartment in the 4 weeks the experiment was run).

      --
      NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
    2. Re:Sticky tape? by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bed Bugs are known for crawling up the wall, onto the ceiling, and then dropping right onto the bed from above. Yes, they do that!!! This things are attracted to heat and C02 from your breath. So it's best to leave a ceiling fan on to disrupt the air and throw them off. But once they've air-dropped onto your bed, I'm not sure if they've already left a pheromone trail for others to follow rendering the fan useless.

      --
      Life is not for the lazy.
    3. Re:Sticky tape? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      The 6"x8" sticky pads solved my friend bedbug problem and was inexpensive.

      But, you need to keep all parts of the bed from touching the ground and the walls except the parts on the pad.

      As a bonus it catches many other insects as well (lots of spiders).

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    4. Re:Sticky tape? by Nyder · · Score: 1

      So placing a sticky card under your bed won't work?

      Is there a place where a normal person can buy the chemical attractants?

      They also use some sort of Pine Spray. My unit got bedbugs before, took 2 cleanings to finally get rid of them all, but they sprayed some Pine Smelling crap around.

      Haven't had any since the last spraying, a year or so ago.

      Hate bedbugs. Made me paranoid for months afterwards, every little spec i think i see move...

      --
      Be seeing you...
    5. Re:Sticky tape? by airdweller · · Score: 1

      IIRC spiders eat bedbugs, so you might be hurting your own efforts.

    6. Re:Sticky tape? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      In her case, the spiders were doing nothing to control the bed bugs. She'd been bitten at least 30 times before I found the pads online. I got the expensive "bed bug" kind but then we found they sell stacks of 100 to farmers for about the same price as 20. Same product.

      They killed the bed bugs the first night. 100% effective. Only problem is mess (glue getting in carpet like chewing gum).

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    7. Re:Sticky tape? by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      DO NOT try to disperse them! I thought I had them and did a lot of reading. The trick is if you have them, keep them from running to every nook and cranny. Use CO2 traps (homemade ones work fine, just check out youtube) and a plastic cover over your bed mattress.

  7. Glue traps didnt work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They seem to be able to catch anything.

    1. Re:Glue traps didnt work? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They might catch some, but bed bugs are attracted to CO2, heat, and various other chemicals. One of the linked articles actually mentions a story about a guy with an infestation who had put the legs of his bed in buckets of water to keep the bed bugs from crawling up the legs of the bed, as well as surrounding his bed with diatomaceous earth (which bed bugs typically won't cross, since it can clog the holes they breathe through), only to have the bed bugs crawl up onto the ceiling and then drop down on his bed from above, with the fecal trail going up the wall to prove that's what they were doing.

      Really, the traps that they're creating are not designed to deal with an infestation. They're designed to alert you with a higher certainty to the presence of an infestation, since everything I've read seems to indicate that a bed bug infestation is not something that the typical consumer is capable of handling on their own.

    2. Re:Glue traps didnt work? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I had the same problem. Here's where he failed:
      The bugs have to get off the bed and get back to the wall to crawl up and drop down on you again. So, I took a bucket of diatomaceous earth and put maybe an 1/8" layer, 2" wide along the baseboards of my room, under the bed including a 6" buffer area outside of the bed silhouette, around the legs of the bed, and then between the mattresses, under the sheets, and finally 4-6" swatch along the edge of the bed on top of the sheets. I then laid on top of the sheets using myself as bait. I reapplied every few days. After a week or so, I stopped finding dead bugs, but I kept the regiment up for 6 months. No more bedbugs, but I also caught the infestation early, as afar as I can tell. Then again, I also lived in a house. I can't imagine living in an apartment infested with bugs because no matter how diligent you are, if your neighbors don't make an effort, they just move back later.

      --
      If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
    3. Re:Glue traps didnt work? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      Also, I must caution the user. I used a paint mask, gloves, goggles, and a foam brush to apply the dust. I also probably inhaled, over time a lot. I had some respiratory issues and odd, random itching for up to a year after this treatment, but I can't be 100% sure it's related or was psychosomatic. YMMV.

      --
      If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
    4. Re:Glue traps didnt work? by Raenex · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the cure isn't worse than the infestation. I think sticky tape would have been the safer option. Plus somebody else mentioned using a steamer to kill the bugs and eggs.

  8. Ah bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My landlord is so paranoid about getting them I have to initial three separate paragraphs in my lease stating "I will not bring used furniture into the house" "I will notify the landlord immediately if any bedbugs are detected" "I will take steps to ensure bedbugs do not enter the house."

    Maybe they should figure out how to prevent them from reproducing instead of trapping a few examples of a menace that, as the summary notes, numbers in the hundreds of thousands.

    1. Re:Ah bedbugs by EvanED · · Score: 2

      I'm sure there are people working on that. But it's not like you can snap your fingers and the bed bug fairy will deliver a fix. In the meantime, people have to rely on traditional extermination methods, and traditional extermination methods require that you be aware that traditional extermination methods are necessary. And that's what the work described by the article is addressing...

    2. Re:Ah bedbugs by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > Maybe they should figure out how to prevent them from reproducing instead of trapping a few
      > examples of a menace that, as the summary notes, numbers in the hundreds of thousands.

      I have occasionally wondered about using some variation on "phage therapy" for this. As I understand the protocols, the basic outline is:
      1. Breed target organism (originally bacteria infecting a patient)
      2. Sample natural water, and filter it with a ceramic filter to leave behind only phages as biological material.
      3. Apply samples of phage water to target organisms, watch for signs of infection and death
      4. If reliable agent is found, use dead targets to make more and isolate a workable phage
      5. if reliable agent not found, goto step 2.

      There are a lot of viruses out there.... I would bet something infects bedbugs and kills them effectively, and just needs a little help finding them.

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    3. Re:Ah bedbugs by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      > My landlord is so paranoid about getting them I have to initial three separate paragraphs in my lease

      On a seperate note, I was once in the market for an apartment and was considering one that I didn't end up taking. The landlord was at about this level of paranoia about cockroaches. In fact, he said that if we did move in.... he wanted us to unpack all of our boxes outside, because he was afraid of the possibility of roaches getting into boxes and living off the packing tape glue.

      That and he was specifically worried about the possibility that we would attempt to fill the bathtub with charcoal and roast a pig in it. He specifically forbade that too, not that such a thing ever would have seemed like a good idea to me, apparently the possibility worried him.

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    4. Re:Ah bedbugs by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I have occasionally wondered about using some variation on "phage therapy" for this.

      Why this won't work: In a wild population there is usually a high degree of genetic diversity. Most bedbugs may die from the virus, but some will survive. Those that survive will reproduce and create a new generation with greater immunity.

    5. Re:Ah bedbugs by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      "We'll have to spray your house with ebola virus to get rid of the bed bugs. Should be safe to come back after a couple days. If you experience any massive bleeding from all orifices and severe vomiting, please call the 911 and burn your house down while you wait for the CDC."

    6. Re:Ah bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to worry. Come winter, the gorillas will simply freeze to death.

    7. Re:Ah bedbugs by Svenia · · Score: 1

      I was following this trail of logic successfully at the roach part. I get it, I can't stand roaches. Where I get lost though is the bathtub of charcoal for roasting a pig. I wonder if this was something he just had a weird fear of? Was it something a former tenant attempted to do? Did you just give him the "going to roast a pig in the bathtub" type of vybe? Perhaps he was just really, really high? Such a bizarre concern to have of your residents.

    8. Re:Ah bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are strange creatures. If you doubt it, just check youtube.

      As far as the packing glue thing is concerned, he's actually right. A thin film of oil residue from aerosolized cooking oil, and damp pipe condensation can sustain a roach infestation for YEARS.

    9. Re:Ah bedbugs by Antipater · · Score: 3, Informative

      They're working on this. Beauveria bassiana is a parasitic fungus that infests arthropods. It's already used against aphids and termites, and is being investigated for use on mosquitoes and bedbugs.

      --
      Everything is better with chainsaws.
    10. Re:Ah bedbugs by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      I thought it was odd too, he claimed he had heard of many immigrant families trying this and it causing massive house fires. Which, would make a lot of sense, I would assume turning the bathtub into a charcoal pit inside a building made of wood would tend to work out poorly.

      That said, he is the only person I have ever heard concerned of such things, and in the decade since then have not heard of any fires started that way, so... either it happens so often that the news just ignores it (which seems unlikely since they report fires in general) or it was just a rumor based on something that may or may not have happened once or twice. A quick google search only seems to turn up suggestions for using a bathtub to brine a pig, which shouldn't involve filling the tub with coals.

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    11. Re:Ah bedbugs by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the sort of story I'd tell to landlords after a few beers....

      --
      No sig today...
    12. Re:Ah bedbugs by pakar · · Score: 1

      That and he was specifically worried about the possibility that we would attempt to fill the bathtub with charcoal and roast a pig in it. He specifically forbade that too, not that such a thing ever would have seemed like a good idea to me, apparently the possibility worried him.

      There are crazy people for everything... Did you ever find out what pushed him to this level of paranoia?

  9. Quit fucking around. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just give us the same thing that got rid of them the last time around. DDT works.

    1. Re: Quit fucking around. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you say "collateral damage"?

    2. Re:Quit fucking around. by Guido+von+Guido+II · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just give us the same thing that got rid of them the last time around. DDT works.

      Bedbugs were apparently resistant to DDT by the 1950s.

    3. Re:Quit fucking around. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      But the US was bedbug free by then, and almost bald eagle free as the naysayers kept wanting to use DDT on their crops.

      --
      The cesspool just got a check and balance.
  10. It sucks you and to be you. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Slashdotter: But then nobody would want to get in the bed with me.

    --
    (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
  11. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You regularly wash your mattress and pillows in hot water?

  12. Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    a new trap that has a 77% probability of capturing bed bugs

    Well, what does that mean? If I have bedbugs, and I leave this out overnight, is there a 23% chance it'll be empty in the morning? Will it capture 77% of the total number of bugs? Over what time period? And so on...

    The BBC article is a bit less vague:

    In a laboratory setting, they found that their trap had a 77% probability of capturing bed bugs released, whereas the shallower trap only had a 23% probability.

    Although this too could use a rewrite. Does it mean 77% of all the bugs were caught by the new trap, and 23% by the old? Makes sense, given that the probabilities add up to 100% (and the article's photo shows both traps in the test area at the same time). But if they are meant to be independent probabilities, then there's a 17.71% chance that any particular bug won't be caught at all*.

    *obviously statistically speaking all bugs will all get caught eventually, another reason not to assume this second interpretation is correct, unless they were doing this a timed trial. Go bedbug, go!

    --
    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    1. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by deroby · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Mathematically speaking I would think that it's impossible that all bugs will get caught eventually, no ?

      Night 0 : 100 bedbugs run around

      Night 1 : 100 * .77 bugs get caught, 100 * .23 remain
      Night 2 : (100 * .23 ) * .77 bugs get caught, (100 * .23) *.23 remain ...
      Night n : 100 * (.23 ^ n) bugs remain...

      So you'll get an asymptote that borders on catching them all, but not ever really... Especially as we're not taking into account that the remaining bugs will probably multiply...

      But I agree that for 'whole numbers of bedbugs' n should be smallish... might make a nice spreadsheet/graph to figure out, especially if you add variables like how long it takes for them to reproduce etc ...

      --
      If there is one thing to be learned on slashdot, it has to be sarcasm.
    2. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      without taking into account multiplication, you have to realize that the bed bugs are finite, and can't be split into 0.00001 bed bugs. So there could be a point at which all bed bugs could be caught. Throw in the multiplication and it gets tricky, especially since they're egg-laying.

    3. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by Arrepiadd · · Score: 1

      Well, what does that mean? If I have bedbugs, and I leave this out overnight, is there a 23% chance it'll be empty in the morning?

      Yes, that's what that means. It is said that these are merely monitors, they are not meant to kill all the bugs. Just like having a mouse trap empty does not mean no mice in your house, having no bedbugs in your trap does not mean no bedbugs. But, keep it there for n days and the 0.23^n chance of it consistently failing at catching something becomes negligible.

    4. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's what that means.

      I still think that's pretty unlikely for the reasons stated above - particularly that a) a time period isn't mentioned and b) the 77% for the new trap and the 23% for the old trap add up to 100% - not all that unlikely in the lab conditions depicted.

      --
      systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    5. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by unrtst · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you want the real numbers, read the (free) pdf:
      http://esa.publisher.ingentaconnect.com/content/esa/jee/2013/00000106/00000004/art00036

      They actually did a pretty thorough job of testing them and various attractants in various levels, and have real numbers in the report.

      To attempt to answer you question (which can't be answered 100% accurately because there were many scenarios tested and you and the summary didn't state which was referenced)... not all the bugs got caught; the bugs that did not get caught were generally inactive and lethargic (I'm guessing they were old, or not hungry, etc), so they didn't really count them; the new traps caught about 2.5 fold more bugs given the same lure (or lack thereof); tests were run in a variety of settings, including an arena made from a wooden door and several infested apartments while people were there.

      Also, for those wondering, the new trap is:
      * inverted plastic dog bowl (600ml volume, 18cm diameter, 6.4cm depth, from IKEA)
      * outer wall of bowl was covered with a layer of paper surgical tape (caring international)
      * tape was died black with Fiebing's Lether Dye (Tandy Leather Factory)
      * Incide of bowls were coated with a light layer of fluoropolymer resin (Bio-Quip products, Rancho Dominguez, CA) to prevent the bugs from crawling out

      And the best lure was:
      * 150g yeast (Lesaffre Yeast Corp)
      * 750g granulated cane sugar (U.S. Sugar Co. Inc)
      * 3L water (40degree C)

      Fill a plastic tub with the lure mixure, mix it up, put on a lid, and rest it on top of two traps.
      Lower amounts of lure stil work (not as well as the above amount, but much better than none - see paper for full details).

    6. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by deroby · · Score: 1

      I know, hence my 'for whole numbers of bedbugs' remark ... the egg-laying makes it even more challenging indeed ... wikipedia here I come =)

      --
      If there is one thing to be learned on slashdot, it has to be sarcasm.
    7. Re:Wait, what? Be careful when you quote stats by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      Mathematically speaking I would think that it's impossible that all bugs will get caught eventually, no ?

      Night 0 : 100 bedbugs run around

      Night 1 : 100 * .77 bugs get caught, 100 * .23 remain
      Night 2 : (100 * .23 ) * .77 bugs get caught, (100 * .23) *.23 remain ...
      Night n : 100 * (.23 ^ n) bugs remain...

      So you'll get an asymptote that borders on catching them all, but not ever really... Especially as we're not taking into account that the remaining bugs will probably multiply...

      But I agree that for 'whole numbers of bedbugs' n should be smallish... might make a nice spreadsheet/graph to figure out, especially if you add variables like how long it takes for them to reproduce etc ...

      No trap can fix that. When:

      Night n : 100 * (.23 ^ n) bugs remain = 1, the remaining bed bug is the Chuck Norris of the bedbug world. The only logical outcome is that you'll wake up on night n+1 to find yourself in that upside down black bowl.

  13. Re:Ya know what also works? by Izrun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting point. Unfortunately you framed it in a bigoted rant and will subsequently be ignored.

    --
    -Izrun
  14. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I mean this is why I hate stupid green alarmists because they can't apply rational common sense to anything.

    And as a result, you're a stupid contrarian douchebag?

    Cleaning clothes to remove normal stuff you can absolutely do in cold water.

    If your underwear and sheets need to be sterilized, you have other issues you need to deal with.

    You are a fucking idiot and an asshole.

  15. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really a good point at all. Bedbugs don't hide in the sheets. They hide in the crevices of the mattress, box-springs, bed frame, and surrounding areas. You might find a few bugs crawling the bedsheets, but it's not where they lay their eggs.

  16. fear of dog bowls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Natural selection will favor bed bugs with an inate aversion to upside down containers.

  17. over there by coutysd · · Score: 1

    For some people, it's a long way to get to know a person completely, and there are steps to take.

  18. Compared to? by Horshu · · Score: 1

    But is it more effective than putting kidney bean leaves on the floor? Story was out months ago about this old (OLD) method that works because the leaves have tiny hooks on then that latch on to the bugs' legs. Set them out at night, gather them in the morning and burn.

    1. Re:Compared to? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Where do I buy a large quantity of fresh kidney bean leaves? Particularly in winter?

      And what if the hotel I'm staying in doesn't like the idea of me burning a pile of leaves in their parking lot in the morning?

      A solution that can't be implemented is just as useful as no solution at all.

    2. Re:Compared to? by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      1) you grow them, genius. Beans will sprout any season, if you start them indoors. a 1lb bag of kidney beans costs a few dollars. You can get a surprising number of leaves from that. Dry beans are available year round.

      2) You dont burn them silly. You stuff them into the dumpster out back. Be sure to take pictures of the bugs for facebook.

      3) While I admit that sneaking living plants into a hotel is going to be a difficult prospect, you can get a very similar effect by using glue boards. More expensive by far than kidney bean leaves, but more easily transported, and with a longer shelf life. You can get them in "Enormous" sizes. Failing that, you can always Make your own.

      Again, take pictures of all the trapped bedbugs for facebook, then dispose of the bugs in the big dumpster behind the hotel.

    3. Re:Compared to? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      1) you grow them, genius.

      Ever had to deal with bed bugs?

      Waiting weeks/months to grow a sufficient supply of leaves is not an acceptable solution.

    4. Re:Compared to? by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      Beans grow fast enough that they are often used in school science activities in gradeschool.

      Seriously, at the most extreme, you will get two seed leaves per bean in 6 days. You will get around 6 to 10 leaves per bean in 12 days.

      Be sure to mist the potting soil with medicine cabinet grade peroxide in a spraybottle at planting time. This will prevent white mold in the pot, and give much better yeilds.

      If you can't wait 6 days for the leaves, set out the glue boards while you wait. You can get those immediately at the store, and will hold you over until then.

    5. Re:Compared to? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Seriously, at the most extreme, you will get two seed leaves per bean in 6 days. You will get around 6 to 10 leaves per bean in 12 days.

      And how long to get enough to cover my whole floor? With a fresh batch every night?

      Sorry, the whole bean leaf idea is interesting, but nowhere near practical.

    6. Re:Compared to? by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      Kidney beans sprout after 3 to 8 days, giving access to 2 seed leaves.

      After 14 days, they will have the 2 seed leaves, and 5 to 8 trifolate adult plant leaves, if left to their own devices.

      After 20 days, they should have between 15 and 20 adult leaves, and the seed leaves will have wilted and fallen away. Flowers begin to show.

      Plant continues to grow, flower, spread, and produce immature bean pods up until 80 days time. That is when mature bean pods appear. Flowers and mature pods will coexist on the plant. In a climate controlled and well lit area, beans are ever bearing as long as mature pods are picked daily.

      The bush will be bigger than a 55 gallon barrel long before this time, and be covered in leaves. About 4 weeks after germination, the bush will be producing leaves at an alarming rate. (1 bush.) Continual harvesting of leaves is easily possible at that point. 10 plants would easily give enough leaves to surround a bed daily.

      Since it is a plot that resembles a log graph, and you want leaves "right now!", but also need many leaves later, I would suggest this process:

      Plant 200 beans, spray the "pots" with peroxide before planting. After 5 to 8 days, you should have around 400 seed leaves. Harvest the leaves fro 3/4 of the plants. Leave them on the floor (sb around 300 leaves, each leaf about 4x4 inches for a good healthy bean. That's about 100 square feet of coverage.) Leave the leaves for a few days before disposing of them, to get the most out of them. They should last at least 3 to 4 days before drying out, and will continue to catch bedbugs over that time. The remaining 50 plants or so should have several primary leaves by then (3 to 4 per plant, in addition to the 2 now very large seed leaves.) Pick the seed leaves from all plants (100 leaves) and 1 to 2 adult leaves, depending on how many are on the plant. Don't take more than half. That should again cover your floor for several days if you leave them down. After that time, there should be close to 10 leaves per plant, and they should be getting quite large. Fully harvest 2/3 of the plants to thin them out in your potting room, and keep those leaves down for several days. By that time, there should be 20 to 50 leaves per plant. Take about a third of the leaves from each plant, and give them a weak fertilizer. (Weak!) This should give you another 3 to 4 days of leaves on the foor if you leave them down. After that time, there should be well over 100 leaves per plant, and should be blooming. There should be about 16 plants in your potting room. You may need to move them to bigger pots. (I presume using plastic or styrofoam cups to start them in. Something disposable and cheap. After this point, use real flowerpots.) Continue with the 1/3 leaf harvest every 3 to 4 days average. By the end of the 4th week since germination, the bushes should be big enough to harvest every other night. By the end of the 8th week, you can probably harvest 300 leaves per 16 plants daily. (18 leaves per plant) assuming you keep feeding it a very weak fertilizer every week.

      While it takes time to start the process, the bean plants will continue to grow and make leaves year round as long as they are given enough light, space, and kept warm, and will grow to enormous sizes. 16 plants will eventiall take over an entire room without effort.

      Keeping them alive will keep you supplied in bedbug killing leaves purpetually. And supply beans to eat after 80 days.

    7. Re:Compared to? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      After 5 to 8 days,

      This is 5 to 8 days to long, as anyone who has ever been bitten by those little bastards will know.

      Mosquito bites are nothing compared to bed bug bites.

      Having been bitten by both, I am not exaggerating when I say I would rather sleep in a room full of brown recluse spiders than a room full of bed bugs.

      Any solution that cannot be acquired and implemented within an hour or two is simply too slow.

    8. Re:Compared to? by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      That's what glue traps are good for. You can buy those now, at 2 to 5 dollars a pop, and have something going "right now! OMG WTFBBQ BUGS IN MY BRAINS ARGHBRBL!", and then have very inexpensive bean leaves shortly thereafter.

      Compared, over the same time interval, the bean solution is radically less expensive. You trade on convenience.

      The world isn't perfect, and you have to make choices. That's just life. Making "good" choices is more tricky.

      While I've never endured bedbugs, I have endured a massive flea infestation. (Mice brought them in.) The kind where every inch of you gets bitten relentlessly. I perfectly understand the need for immediacy. I don't however, allow that to overrule my sense of rationality. Make a plan, stick to it. Satisfy your mind by keeping track of progress indicators. It works.

    9. Re:Compared to? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      I've dealt with fleas, as well. One bedbug bite itches like a thousand flea bites stacked on top of each other.

      Honestly, I understand everything you're saying about trading convenience for expense, etc.....

      I'll skip the glue traps as well and go nuclear on them (call an exterminator).

      My only point is that the bean leaf idea is just flat out retarded for at least 99% of the population.

  19. Capture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck that.. Liberal use of poison!

    1. Re:Capture? by Antipater · · Score: 2

      Bedbugs are immune to most common poisons. A professional treatment is damned expensive. Lots of inner-city landlords aren't willing or able to throw out that kind of cash.

      --
      Everything is better with chainsaws.
    2. Re:Capture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I still dont see how a commercial disposable products can hold up against the ready supply of a biologically mass replicated alternative, like kidneybean leaves.

      Even in an inner city, it is absurdly easy to grow beans. You can get a pound of dried kidney beans for a few bucks at the grociers, and in about 2 to 3 weeks, have a towering vine of bedbug snaring death ready to be used for bug control.

      It's a mechanical method, since the tiny hairs on the bottoms of the leaves are just the right size and shape to ensnare the bugs. Just pluck fresh leaves, and lay them in the hallways and bedrooms rough side up. By morning, uncountable numbers of the bugs will have been trapped.

    3. Re:Capture? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Bedbugs are immune to most common poisons.

      Read this as: "The only poisons that work require a license to purchase".

  20. Where is your local kidney bean leaf supplier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've looked on Google and can't find one near me...

    1. Re:Where is your local kidney bean leaf supplier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use the natural replication process, Genius.

      You can buy dried kidney beans at many food stores. Just buy a pound of them, and then plant them in a planter box, plastic cups, whatever. Beans are notoriously easy to sprout and grow. Just grow the beans, and pick the leaves in a conservative fashion (a few leaves per plant, many plants), then lay them out on the floor at night, rough side up. The bugs get ensnared in the tiny hairs and barbs on the bottoms of the leaves, and you just sweep the leaves up and dispose of the bastards.

      (Hint: you can sprout them under standard fluorescent lighting, in plastic cups filled with standard potting soil. If you live in NewYork, ask the building manager if you can grow the beans on the roof, after stating what they are for. You don't need much space at all for them really.)

      As far as I know, artificial material science has not been able to even come close to the effectiveness of kidneybean leaves. Kidney bean leaves are MURDER on bedbugs.

    2. Re:Where is your local kidney bean leaf supplier? by Horshu · · Score: 1

      Try a friggin' Home Depot. Look for a display that says "Burpee". That fails, try a grocery store...look for an aisle that says "Rice/Beans".

    3. Re:Where is your local kidney bean leaf supplier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just grow a bunch of viney bean plants in your bedroom and arrange the vines so that they grow around your bed.

  21. Funny, but glad by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just glad they didn't spend $15 million in tax payer money to invent a $10,000 trap that no one would use. (No one who isn't buying traps with tax payer money, anyway.)
    I wonder if the same design works for fleas. I understand fleas are also attracted to CO2, so the yeast + sugar water thing would likely improve results with fleas as well.

    I'd been baiting my traps with an an aerosol can of CO2 produced by emissions from an SUV belching C02 into a Styrofoam container full of dry ice kept cool by an R-22 refrigeration system powered by my diesel generator.

    1. Re:Funny, but glad by Arrepiadd · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the same design works for fleas. I understand fleas are also attracted to CO2, so the yeast + sugar water thing would likely improve results with fleas as well.

      My guess is it wouldn't work as well (the entire plastic bowl + CO2 source thingy). It says in the article one of the main advantages of this contraption is the high walls that make it hard for the bugs to come out. Fleas would most likely just jump out of the trap once they realized there's CO2 in there but nothing to eat.

    2. Re:Funny, but glad by Antipater · · Score: 1

      Fleas are easy. Shine a (hot) desk lamp over a wide bowl of soapy water. The fleas will jump at the light, fall into the water, and drown.

      --
      Everything is better with chainsaws.
    3. Re:Funny, but glad by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I'd been baiting my traps with an an aerosol can of CO2 produced by emissions from an SUV belching C02 into a Styrofoam container full of dry ice kept cool by an R-22 refrigeration system powered by my diesel generator.

      Yep. That sounds like an all-American solution to a problem.

      --
      No sig today...
    4. Re:Funny, but glad by Cyberax · · Score: 1

      Uhm... Dry ice is already solid CO2.

  22. Re:Ya know what also works? by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > I have read there has been a dramatic increase in bed bugs over the last decade in major urban centers. There is a very good reason why it has.

    Yeah, that's where the most people are and where people move around the most. If you live in the boonies you never see people in on business trips, and you're more likely to own a house with no close neighbors instead of live in an apartment with a constantly-shifting set of neighbors. Less vectors.

    > People have been told to save energy (and the environment) by using cold water to wash their laundry.

    And they aren't people in the country? Got news for you: When you have your own water heater instead of a coin-op laundry, you look for ways to save hot water.

    > While your laundry comes out smelling and looking clean just the same, you STILL need to use high temp wash under certain situations, like washing your bed sheets.

    Wow. You're an entomologist like Rosie O'Donnell is a metallurgist. First off, the bugs don't live en masse in the sheets, so that won't halt an infestation. Second, when you're trying to kill bedbugs in fabric, it's usually recommended to DRY it on high heat and not even bother tossing it in a wash cycle unless you were going to anyway.

    > I mean this is why I hate stupid green alarmists because they can't apply rational common sense to anything.

    Try not to look in any mirrors. Learning the concept of self-awareness might destroy you.

  23. CO2 bag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard that bed bugs are particularly sensitive to CO2. I wonder if anybody makes a plastic bag that you put over your box spring and mattress. Then, vacuum out the air and attach a CO2 cartridge and inflate the bag. Do this in the morning and I've been lead to believe that the bugs are dead by nightfall. Is this wrong or is it really that simple?

    1. Re:CO2 bag? by Antipater · · Score: 1

      You misheard. CO2 isn't a poison; it's an attractant. They track you down using your body heat and the CO2 you exhale, so many traps are baited with CO2 and/or some form of heater.

      However, your idea is very similar to one that does work, which is baking them. Bedbugs are vulnerable to heat, and will die in a few hours at above 120-degF. Higher temps have shorter kill times, and steam kills them instantly.

      --
      Everything is better with chainsaws.
    2. Re:CO2 bag? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I believe the GP was saying that you should replace the air in the bag with 100% CO2, suffocating them.

      --
      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    3. Re:CO2 bag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not 100%, since high vacuum wouldn't be atttainable. I was lead to belive by other sources that high concentrations of CO2 were fatal to the bugs over the course of several hours.

      After googling around I see that the bugs live in other places beside the bed, so it's a moot point. The idea of persistent cold killing them sounds more interesting. During a New York City winter maybe you could open the window (with a screen of course) while you're at work. Combine that with several other techniques and maybe, just maybe you might make the environment poor enough to collapse and destroy the population.

      At any rate, keeping your mattress bagged when not in use couldn't hurt.

    4. Re:CO2 bag? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Vacuum isn't necessary. Just 100% CO2 in a cylinder on one end of the bag, and a one way valve on the other end of the bag. Release the CO2 slow enough that it has time to fully mix. When you've released 1 volume of CO2, the concentration of air is 50% normal. 2 volumes, 25%, 10 volumes 0.1%. That should be plenty low to suffocate anything.

      --
      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    5. Re:CO2 bag? by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      You are overthinking the problem.

      To get near 100% CO2 in the bag, just visit a grocier or gas station that sells dry ice, then, when you bag and vac the mattress, just pack the naked dry ice block in with the plastic, with said valve.

      The vac just makes sure the ambient oxygen levels are low to begin with.

      This doesn't solve the problem with the bugs being in places other than the mattress though. Like roaches, they infest walls and crawlspaces.

      Some form of natural predator insect would be advantageous, in conjunction with mechanical removal methods, like the traps.

    6. Re:CO2 bag? by Antipater · · Score: 1

      Some form of natural predator insect would be advantageous, in conjunction with mechanical removal methods, like the traps.

      Depends on which infestation you prefer, as the bedbug's most common natural predator is the cockroach.

      There's also the masked hunter, which actively hunts bedbugs and doesn't carry disease. But they're generally solitary (in my experience at least) and not common enough to make an impact on the bedbug population, unless you specifically bred them for it I guess. Also, they'll give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, and they get stuck in the same stickytraps you'd lay for the bedbugs (since they walk onto the sticky to try and eat the trapped bugs).

      --
      Everything is better with chainsaws.
  24. Re:Ya know what also works? by Antipater · · Score: 1

    So the bugs survive the cold water wash only to be killed in the dryer.

    Hint: clothes and sheets aren't the only place bugs like to hide.

    --
    Everything is better with chainsaws.
  25. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always use hot water when washing things like linens, socks, underwear, sleepwear and sportswear. Pretty much everything else I wash cold with cold water specific detergent. I've never in my entire life had bed bugs anywhere that I've lived, nor problems with dust mites. Rarely, I'll wake up with a small spider bite, but I'm ok with that.

    Bug problems almost always stem from a lack of hygiene and regular cleaning. Bedding should be washed a minimum of once a week, but it's better to wash every three days or so. It also helps if you have hardwood floors (or any uncarpeted floor) and an air or water bed. Personally, I sleep on a very nice Serta air bed, which means that there is no place for any bugs to hide except in the sheets or blanket.

  26. Not as good as the MBA trap by paiute · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Paiutech Department of Verminology has developed a new trap that has a 100% probability of capturing MBAs, nearly three times as many MBAs over 28 days (one fiscal month), as the classic hooker with blow trap, which the authors cite as the best monitor on the market. A better trap design can allow people to detect MBAs while they are still in small numbers. 'If you have only 10 or 20 MBAs in your corporation, it's very hard to see with your eyes,' says inventor and Paiutech COO Marion Sam. 'When people realize they have MBAs they are often already in their thousands, or hundred thousands. It's relatively easy to eradicate the MBAs when they are in small numbers, but when they are everywhere, it's very hard to eradicate them.' The device can be created at home very cheaply and consists of an empty bottle of Chivas Regal filled with bleach to which is affixed the label: "Six Sigma Smart Juice".

    --
    If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
  27. Heat Kills All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having stayed in the Hilton (Union Square San Francisco) and coming home with bed bug welts and bites, I can I think I can explain a few things. First, once you see the (clustered) bites, it's too late. Those bites take days to show sometimes. Second, The hotel denies everything. Having been denied satisfaction I left the hotel, but did NOT return home right away fearing for the little fuckers are in my luggage.

    I stopped at a coffee shop to internet surf. I found this guy's blog about his battle with bedbugs and how he had to remove ALL furniture from his house in his losing battle against the little bugs. This guy had traps setup, tracking migrations from room to room, sticky side up tape being the most effective. The other side note about the bugs, all sorts of chemicals may or may not work, and HEAT over TIME was the ONLY way to kill these things dead.

    I stopped at a dry-cleaner and walked in with NO LUGGAGE and explained the situation I thought I was in. The cleaner said they could take most of my luggage, but not all. They brought out a bio-hazard bin and took my clothes for "special" treatment. I had to take my shoes, suitcase and a few other items home. I threw everything in a 170 degree electric oven for 4 hours each until clean. The car I drove home in, went out to the central valley and sat in the summer sun for 5 hours while I watched movies and drank coffee.

    Long story short, use the internet to keep you home safe. HEAT over TIME will KILL the fuckers.

    1. Re:Heat Kills All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting story. Two questions:

      1) Why didn't you leave your luggage in the car while it baked in the central valley? That should have taken care of any critters in there too.

      2) What about the clothes you were wearing?

    2. Re:Heat Kills All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the time, I wanted my luggage GONE and out of my hands. The clothes I was wearing went in to the oven as soon as I walked in my door. I was betting on the odds that my luggage in the back of the pickup truck and the clothes I had on in the cab of the truck were very unlikely to cross contaminate. That being said, After the trip to the valley, the clothes went to the oven, again playing the odds that the cab was clean and I wasn't infected while the car was baking.

      There was NO way to be sure I did NOT have hitch-hikers while the car was baking, but the odds were enough for me at the time.

      After that entire fiasco, I can safely assume I did not bring home the little biters as I have not had any bite marks or welts over a year and a half later.

    3. Re:Heat Kills All by almechist · · Score: 2

      You could have just thrown everything in big black plastic trash bags tied to be airtight, and then left the bags in your car with the windows up for those 5 hours of summer sun. It would have been just as effective and much cheaper.

    4. Re:Heat Kills All by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Second, The hotel denies everything.

      FYI, with a menace like bed bugs, you should ALWAYS call the local health department and report it.
      Even if you're wrong and got them somewhere else, you may have carried them into the hotel.

      As a secondary matter, the department of health will inspect and, if they find bedbugs, you can use that finding to leverage compensation from the hotel.

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    5. Re:Heat Kills All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is actually one of the few options for a severe infestation: they tent and bake each room of the house. Costs thousands.

  28. Re:Ya know what also works? by Antipater · · Score: 2

    Bedbugs have nothing to do with hygiene. They live off blood and only blood, not dirt or mold or anything related to cleaning.

    And there are always places to hide. An air or water bed is a good start, yes, although you can get the same effect by encasing your mattress in a bug-impermeable casing. But they can still live in the bedframe, the walls, nearby furniture, etc.

    In fact, a quirk of bedbug biology makes it even worse. Bedbug sex is extremely painful for the female (the term is literally "traumatic insemination"), to the point that female bedbugs will often flee and hide after the first mating if there are other males in line. Then she'll lay her eggs in that new hiding spot. So you'll get a second colony in your ceiling fan, or your electrical sockets, or some other crazy hiding place.

    --
    Everything is better with chainsaws.
  29. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I have always been a pretty clean person and I have never had beg bugs anywhere that I've lived.

  30. Re:Ya know what also works? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Well, I have always been a pretty clean person and I have never had beg bugs anywhere that I've lived.

    And I carry around a Tiger Stone in my pocket. Never been attacked by a tiger.

  31. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like someone is in denial about their cleanliness.

    Something has to initially draw the bugs to your home. That's filth. Ants, flies, cockroaches, dust mites, etc are all attracted to poor sanitary conditions. I have never had problems with any of them, but I have known plenty of slobs who did.

  32. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not everyone uses a dryer. The only place I've seen widespread dryer adoption is in the USA. I can't stand them myself, they use lots of power, damage clothing much more rapidly, cause static build up and cause skin irritation because you have to use bleach for whites. Much rather line dry.

  33. Friend had bedbugs- we did this by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    We got some inexpensive disposable containers, filled them with talcum powder, and put the legs of their bed in it. That stopped the bites right away (apparently they were elsewhere in the room and traveling to her bed. But, it didn't trap them. Apparently they couldn't climb up the plastic.

    Next ,we get the 6"x8" sticky pads and put them under each bed leg. It was a bit of a mess (stuck to the bed) but it trapped the bedbugs the first night and THEN proceeded to catch hundreds of other bugs over the course of 6 months (spiders mostly).

    They are much cheaper in bulk and when not sold as bed bug pads.

    After I searched for the, I got bed bug ads on lots of sites for about a month (I guess google was serving their ads. But it was creepy to get bed bug ads on a gaming site).

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  34. Re:Ya know what also works? by MiniMike · · Score: 1

    Question- Do you use a clothes dryer? They typically heat clothes to about 180 F or higher. Hot water heaters are usually set to 120 - 130 F, so unless the clothes washer has a booster heater that is the hottest the clothes in the washer will get. Why will the clothes dryer not kill bed bugs?

  35. Re:Ya know what also works? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Exactly- and very tiny areas like under the rail that supports the nightstand drawer.

    I don't understand why they leave the bed and come back.

    That speaks to selective pressures.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  36. A tip when traveling by Time_Ngler · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to stay in cheap hostels and in Singapore there was one which was infested with bed bugs. I was getting bit every night until I found that if I sprayed a ring of high powered DEET insect repellent in a ring around the edges of the mattress, the bed bugs wouldn't cross the ring and therefore wouldn't bite me. (I had a DEET spray that was supposed to last 8 hours). Better than spraying yourself with DEET every night.

    I have heard they can climb on the ceiling and drop down, but thankfully that didn't happen (maybe it's a rare occurrence?).

  37. Re:Ya know what also works? by bonehead · · Score: 1

    Bug problems almost always stem from a lack of hygiene and regular cleaning.

    Not with the bugs in question.

    Ever stay in a hotel? If so, than it's basically nothing but pure, dumb luck that saved you from bringing some of these critters home with you. And should that happen someday, it's highly unlikely that you would even notice them until they had already multiplied into a pretty well established population. And if you think that staying in upscale hotels will save you, I'd point out that the only place I've ever encountered these critters was in a high end suite at one of the most upscale hotels I'm likely to ever see, much less stay at. Definitely priced out of reach for any regular person paying out of their own pocket. And yet, I spent the next 6 weeks waiting for those godawful bites to subside.

    The only thing that saved me from bringing them into my house was a trip to the laundromat straight from the airport where I ran all of my clothes through 2 dryer cycles, and tossed my luggage into the dumpster out back.

    Personally, I sleep on a very nice Serta air bed, which means that there is no place for any bugs to hide except in the sheets or blanket.

    I'm sure the room that bed is in offers plenty of crevices that they would find extremely cozy.

  38. Re:Ya know what also works? by Nyder · · Score: 1

    Not really a good point at all. Bedbugs don't hide in the sheets. They hide in the crevices of the mattress, box-springs, bed frame, and surrounding areas. You might find a few bugs crawling the bedsheets, but it's not where they lay their eggs.

    Case in point, I got infested when a friend gave me a chair for my computer desk.

    While it infected my bed, it wasn't the source.

    --
    Be seeing you...
  39. Re:Ya know what also works? by Antipater · · Score: 3, Informative

    *sigh*

    Ants, flies, cockroaches, dust mites, etc. are not bedbugs. Bedbugs are not drawn to filth. They might use trash strewn about as a hiding place, but "clean that mess up or you'll get bedbugs!" is just not true. Bedbugs are drawn to you, because you are their food source. They spread by hitchhiking on clothes, luggage, etc. from an infested area to an uninfested area. Hotels are prime breeding and distribution spots. Or, if you live in an apartment complex or building, they'll spread between the walls from apartment to apartment.

    If you really want to avoid getting bedbugs, the best thing you can do isn't to keep your room meticulously clean. It's to put your clothes and luggage in the dryer as soon as you return home after spending a night in a hotel.

    --
    Everything is better with chainsaws.
  40. Not all-American, just the southern part by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Nah, not all-American, that's just the southern part. To bring in the rest of America, the Styrofoam is made from corn pulled from the school lunch program in Iowa.
    The corn is trucked down to southern California in trucks that run on highly toxic lithium batteries, which made by smelting thousands of tons of lithium ore in coal
    furnaces and charged with electricity from either the coal power plant, or the ethanol burning plant down the road. Ethanol burning, mind you, not ethanol powered.
    It uses 20,000 gallons of diesel each day to run the plant, drying all the water out of the ethanol and such. The ethanol is then burned along with some chemical catalysts to produce the power for it's customers. Well, not customers, exactly - really the feds are the the customer - they pay 90% of the bills. The users only pay 10%, to match the price of electricity from natural gas. But I digress. The ethanol is also made from the same Iowa corn, of course, so most of the corn that's brought in doesn't get made into styrofoam, but instead made into ethanol for electricity to charge the lithium-battery trucks that bring the corn. The only problem is, it's getting harder to get
    enough corn from Iowa because they say there's a food shortage up there. I don't know why, with all that farmland they have.

    Anyway, so down in SoCal they make the corn Styrofoam by bubbling corn porridge with cyanostrychninehydrodeathdioxide. They used to make it by blowing air into plastic, but plastic aint biodegradable, so they they use corn porridge with cyanostrychninehydrodeathdioxide bubbles for the Styrofoam. That's awesome because all those new corn porridge jobs netted the Corn Stirrer's Union another $12 million per employee in retirement benefits. After they make the Styrofoam there, they truck it over to Connecticut so that a woman-owned business there can sell it back to the SoCal company they bought it from, who gets a $90 million tax credit for buying from a woman-owned business.

    And THAT is how they styrofoam is ALL-American.

  41. Re: Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bedbug sex is extremely painful for the female..

    dude..! i knew some juicy info from the bedbug war frontlines will surface in this /. discussion, but this surpassed even my wildest expectations

  42. My experience by GoJays · · Score: 3, Informative
    As having gone through a bedbug infestation. It is not pretty. It makes you paranoid, you see a spec of dirt on the floor and you swear it is a bed bug and your heart skips a beat. You get an itch while in bed, you think you have been bitten, you rip off the covers, and start searching.... this continues for MONTHS after the infestation is gone. I woke up many times to find my girlfriends on her hands and knees with a flashlight checking the baseboards, and drawers at 3am. The mental aspect of the infestation is much worse than physical.

    So how did we get rid of them? We tried various techniques. Encasing our mattress/boxspring and pillows in bedbug proof cases. Putting the legs of the bed in bowls of water. Spraying multiple times, sweeping constantly. The spraying did reduce the numbers, but didn't eliminate them totally. The final nail in the coffin for them was going out and buying a clothes steamer, and steaming the mattress, boxspring, pillows, baseboards, and any other hiding spots in the bedroom. They have to be heated to a certain temperature (can't recall the exact temp at the moment) in order to kill the adults and eggs. So it was a very slow process to make sure they were cooked by the steam. We repeated this process every other day for over a week. At the same time we washed our bed sheets and clothes... ALL OF THEM, even ones we rarely wore and were still clean.

    Of course we were paranoid that there were still eggs, waiting to hatch that we had missed... and we were just waiting for that second outbreak. Lucky for us it never came.

  43. Logic is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your friend gave you a chair that was infested with bed bugs. That chair then infested your bed but it wasn't the source. Do you know how dumb that sounds? Either logic or English has failed you.

    1. Re:Logic is hard by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      I think he might have meant this source .

      Or, maybe not.

  44. Kinda the point. THAT is the part you found odd? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Yeah, that's kinda the point, that the whole device is ridiculous on several levels, including that one.
    Funny THAT is the part you found odd.

  45. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya know what, the experts say the same BS about lice- oh they don't actually like dirty hair, they like clean hair. THAT IS BULLSHIT! The only people that get lice, roaches, bed bugs, mites, fleas, and flies are nasty fuckers. Same goes for rats. Sure you can be super clean but that nasty fucking friend your other friend brings over, yeah he gave that shit to you. The only insect I can give you a pass on are ants. If it is raining alot and the ground is saturated, then they will go inside any house. But those other vermin? Nasty fuckers breed em and keep em alive which spreads that shit around to everyone else. Sorry guy, this is one time where thousands of us people gathering anecdotal evidence are actually right. Wash your ass, fix your leaky plumbing and dry up the cesspool under your trailer, take your goddamned trash off to the dump, wash your fucking nasty ass, vacuum your house, wash the goddamned dishes, wash your nasty fucking ass, wash your dog's nasty fucking ass, stop raising chickens in your living room, and most importantly- WASH YOUR NASTY GODDAMNED ASS!

  46. Will this work in NY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering the massive bedbug problem in the state, they may want to try and get in at the starting gate.

    Of course, they're probably too busy policing Big Gulps and other 'health' issues to take care of something small (like this health issue).

  47. Re:Ya know what also works? by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

    You know, it is usually worth learning something about what you're talking about instead of just spouting your uninformed, prejudicial, snobby bullshit. We're supposed to be nerds, people that come to opinions based on actual facts.

  48. Re:Ya know what also works? by phorm · · Score: 1

    IIRC, they scatter under light. Maybe they're just hiding from the light in whatever crevice they can?

  49. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they would stay in the bed, we would just burn the bedlinen and presto.

  50. Re:Ya know what also works? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    One of the other posters said that bedbug sex is very painful and the females are hiding from the males after they have sex the first time.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  51. Re:Ya know what also works? by phorm · · Score: 1

    It's an odd topic, but I recall reading an article on it. The male will basically "crack" the female's shell and forcibly impregnate her in various cases IIRC

  52. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wash my pillows in 60C from time to time.. Throw them in dryer with a couple of tennis-balls makes them like new...
    Mattress i use a steamer (high-pressure steam) on from time to time. (A real machine, not the crap they have on tv-shop etc)... Doing this have allowed me to keep my current bed for about 10 years now without it spewing dust into the air.....

    As a side-note, there are some firms that do high-pressure steam cleaning of beds. They have some machine that is a vacuum+steamer at the same time that is supposed to clean 30cm into the mattress and kill most types of of bacteria/insects without chemicals.

    But also. It's a good idea to replace all fabric in the bedroom from time to time.. Perfect time is in the winter when you remove all the old crap and open the windows and let the temperature in the room go below freezing for an hour or so.. (be careful with the heaters, don't turn them off).

  53. Re:Ya know what also works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your underwear and sheets need to be sterilized, you have other issues you need to deal with.

    Actually this is quite normal for a large part of the population that have allergies.. Problem with washing with too low temperature, and a low amount of water, is that first the allergens are not completely removed and it allows old detergent to build up in amount in the fabric and the other part is that the rinse-cycle does not remove enough of the detergent since it does the rinse cycle with only cold water and this is causing skin-irritation for people...

    This IS be a big problem among children since they have a bit more sensitive skin.

    What i would love for the future, to please the "greenies", is a steam-cycle on the washing machine to just freshen the clothes instead of washing them.. Then i could probably keep using them for 2-3 times as long, depending on what i do, before needing to wash them for real, at 60C.

    But for all the people out there.. It is recommended that sheets should be cleaned at 60-90C to make sure that all bacteria and dust-mites are killed.

    Underwear is probably a whole different area, but 60C should probably be used, at least every 3-4 wash, since those areas can be a bit sensitive against detergent residue buildup.

  54. IGRs are no longer effective? by Mathinker · · Score: 1

    I'm fascinated and hopeful from the plethora of various non-chemical bed bug control methods which have been discussed here, but rather bemused that no one has talked about insect growth regulators, which are much less toxic than most insecticides (they actually don't even kill the insects themselves, just short-circuit their life cycle, preventing reproduction), yet more effective for long-term control (from what I understand).

    Did I miss something and bed bugs have already developed a wide immunity to these agents?