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Nvidia CEO: We Are Working On Next Generation Surface

UnknowingFool writes "CEO Jen-Hsun Huang has told CNET that Nvidia is working with Microsoft on the next generation of Surface tablets. While sales of the first generation have been poor, Huang believes the second generation will be more successful with the inclusion of Outlook."

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  1. Will it run Linux? by gmuslera · · Score: 1, Interesting

    They should focus in making hardware and drivers for everything, if people don't like the included OS, should be able to change it for something else (android, ubuntu touch, plasma active, whatever). If its only for Microsoft, their are tying their ship to the Titanic, just after it hit the iceberg.

  2. Re:let it run win 32 apps ccompiled for ARM by Chas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Metro apps are how Microsoft is going to let go of their Win32 legacy.

    So we can revert to the multitasking equivalent of 1980's offerings.

    How about "NO"?

    How about "HELL NO"?

    How about "HELL FUCKING NO"?

    Metro apps are a colossal, leap (with rocket assist) BACKWARD in interface technology.

    You can cry all you want about "old code" and "spaghetti code". But simply being newer, possibly cleaner, code doesn't make it better.

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  3. Re:From the summary: by bobjr94 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yes, I would buy a surface if it had outlook..Said no one ever Hopefully Nvidia will get paid for some kind of guaranteed minimum sales from MS, so when it flops worse than the 1st model they won't be out millions in r&d and dead stock.

  4. It's getting sad by jomama717 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was at a mall this evening and though it was funny that the little kiosk that used to demo the Surface Pro/RT was gone...until my wife pointed out that it's because they just opened a "Microsoft Store". I had to see it, and sure enough it was an incredibly thorough facsimile of an apple store, except the "geniuses" (I wonder what they call them...) had purple shirts, and of course there was microsoft crap on all of the extremely well-lit Ikea-esque tables instead of apple crap.

    I'm kind of a bystander in the MS/Apple flamewar (for work and personal use I have a suped-up macbook pro that runs a Windows7 VM) but the sight of this down to the wood-grain copy of an Apple store just made me feel pity for Microsoft. I mean, jesus, it was already clear that their business model since the Zune has been "do what apple does, seems to work", but this place takes it to a new level.

    I like Windows7, I loved my xbox (until I had a kid and gave it to a cousin after 2 years of non-use), they can do some shit right and should accentuate that instead of this across the board pathetic strategy of Apple emulation. After all, the sincerest form of flattery is imitation, as they say. I just don't get it.

    Microsoft are becoming the gobots to Apple's transformers.

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  5. Re:From the summary: by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is the ipad Mail app seriously THAT bad? I haven't used it, used the surface RT mail app when it came out that it was the thing that stopped me buying a surface RT, if the Ipad one is similar that is just sad. Outlook on the RT would have made it viable for me at the time I was considering it.

  6. Re:Clinging to the boat anchor by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sorry but in less than 3 years ARM is gonna be toast so anybody who invests in ARM is a fool. Look up the numbers, when it comes to IPC an ARM quad gets curbstomped by a Prescott P4 in all but the JavaScript bench which was tuned for ARM, its only selling point has been crazy low battery usage and its about to lose that advantage.

    You look at what AMD and Intel have cooking and you can see where the wind is blowing, AMD already has a fanless APU that maxes at 6w with all sectors of the chip maxed out, IRL it uses less than 3w under typical loads and that gives you a dual core APU with a Radeon chip capable of running 1080P over HDMI, and Intel has Haswell and the new Atom is supposedly down to a couple of watts under load and less than 1w in "functional standby" where it can still receive messages and calls.

    The simple fact is ARM just doesn't scale well and no matter how many millions Samsung and Nvidia sink into it they just can't fix this fundamental flaw. So far the only real luck either company has had is by throwing more cores (and thus using more power) at the problem, with Nvidia up to 5 cores and Samsung up to 6 and even with all those cores it'll still get curbstomped by a 3 year old AMD Bobcat or Intel Atom dual, the current chips just widen the gap. As more and more people do more and more with their phones and tablets they are gonna want that higher performance without compromising on weight and like it or not X86 has the IPC crown by a pretty damned large margin.

    I personally feel sorry for Nvidia, they are gonna be the ones left out in the cold as frankly Intel and AMD just don't need them anymore, although how Intel was able to destroy the Nvidia chipset business without getting slammed by antitrust I'll never know. Nvidia really should have partnered or bought out Via a few years back, the Via Nano is a pretty damned solid chip, decent performance with power drain that sits right in the middle of the curve, not to mention its built in crypto support would have made it a solid entry for ULV servers but now its too late. While I wish Nvidia luck as I believe in competition I just don't see a new Surface finding a niche, not with dual core Android tablets looking to be in the $100 range by Xmas, Android has the apps, the network effect that MSFT enjoyed on desktops, its gonna be damned hard for MSFT to get a toehold in there and with Nvidia locked out of the next gen consoles things don't look too good for big green.

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