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The Pirate Bay Launches Browser To Evade ISP Blockades

hypnosec writes "The Pirate Bay, on its 10th anniversary, has released 'Pirate Browser,' which it claims would allow people to access The Pirate Bay and other such blocked sites. The 'Pirate Browser' is a fully functional browser that currently works with Windows. ... According to the Pirate Browser website, the browser is basically a bundled package consisting of the Tor client and Firefox Portable browser. The package also includes some tools meant for evading censorship in countries like UK, Finland, Denmark, and Iran among others."

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  1. As always... by djupedal · · Score: 5, Informative

    The internet sees any blockage as an outage and works to avoid it.

    1. Re:As always... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Needs a Linux version.

    2. Re:As always... by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am still waiting for a SSL-only browser. And no old buggy versions enabled please.

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    3. Re:As always... by fredprado · · Score: 2

      You mean this specific solution? Because they had the idea just now. They have been evading and routing around censorship for all these 10 years, though.

    4. Re:As always... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is a game of chess. ISPs will move to block this (no surprise to anyone, including PB) and another move will be made. Wash, rinse, repeat.

      What the censors don't understand is that their actions are actually resulting in new tech and new approaches to evade and avoid their censorship. They are creating a self fulfilling prophecy and fueling the actions of their targeted "victims".

      Yes, and the only ignorance in that mentality is thinking that the citizens will be the ones who will ultimately "win" here.

      Chess game? No, not quite. More like cat and mouse. When governments find they've had enough of that shit, and you suddenly find you need to pass a background check and obtain a personal license in order to simply obtain internet service, along with new federal law making all public (read unregulated) internet access points illegal, then you may find yourself thinking differently about this.

      Sound completely outlandish and impossible? Yeah, I though the same thing once about Orwellian prophecies too.

      The problem with cat and mouse games is the cat eventually gets the mouse. Every time.

    5. Re:As always... by pipatron · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's "just" the tor browser bundle and firefox portable, they link to both, where sources can be had. The custom configs are (naturally) included in this release for inspection. It seems that they configure Tor to be as fast as possible while removing some possible anonymity, and they block certain countries as exits to remove censorship. Then they have a dynamic proxy to automatically route torrent sites through Tor.

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    6. Re:As always... by darthdavid · · Score: 2

      Actually cats, like most predators, fail to catch their prey way more than they succeed. That is to say, the mouse usually escapes.

  2. Evading from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    evading censorship in countries like UK, Finland, Denmark, and Iran among others.

    So it has come to this.

    1. Re:Evading from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      That moment when you realize your nation is mentioned in the same sentence as one of the most backwards places on Earth.

      *facepalm*

      The Netherlands is missing from this list. So is China...

  3. What could have been pretty cool.... by mark-t · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... is if the browser distributed any (unsecured) content which is currently loaded into a tab or window, in addition to any the inline media content such as images or embeded video all via bittorrent... potentially reducing the impact that "flash mobs" might have on websites to the extent that people adopt use of the browser.

    It'd be ideal, in my opinion, if someone developed an new protocol based on http that did something like that, but I don't think that's terribly likely to happen

    1. Re:What could have been pretty cool.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem with that would be the time it takes to begin download, rather than the download itself. With HTTP, you already know where to download from so the setup time is relatively miniscule; with bittorrent, you have to turn the metadata into a location and then turn around and connect to there. People already complain about how slow HTTP is, so I'd hate to see the reactions to this new hybrid.

  4. There is one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:There is one. by budgenator · · Score: 2

      Well they changed the name didn't they, so its not exactly the Tor Bundle.

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    2. Re:There is one. by scarboni888 · · Score: 2

      Pirates is as pirates does, matey.

  5. And why should people trust it by DrXym · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Pirate Bay hosts some of the sleaziest and malicious advertising banners of any web site. Ads that pop up masquerading as system alerts, porn ads, ads which trigger downloads of files like executables and apks. This is not a site that I would trust in any way to provide the browsing or download software.

    1. Re:And why should people trust it by melikamp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That may be, but unlike other sites, TPB looks and works great without JavaScript, and the ad blocker does the rest. FORCING users to run non-free code and watch ads before they can get to the content is way sleazier than anything TPB does.

    2. Re:And why should people trust it by DrXym · · Score: 2

      Ah I see. So The Pirate Bay puts malicious ads in as some kind of l33t hacker test does it? And not as a form of revenue stream of taking money where they can get it? And that their own "Pirate browser", a bundle of browser and tor will block those ads and any action they perform? And that given all that they can be trusted on to produce and support this browser bundle? I thought I made my point fairly obvious the first time around but clearly not.

  6. P2P HTTP would be great by amaurea · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. A peer-to-peer http replacement would also mean many more websites could get by without advertisements. With the current centralized model, your traffic load and bandwidth expenses grow as your site gets more popular, meaning that most of them end up having to add advertisements as they get big enough (which isn't necessarily that big), not out of any wish to exploit the users to get rich, but to avoid ruining themselves.

    The bittorrent protocol solved this problem for large files by making downloaders participate in uploading too, meaning that a single, low-capacity server can serve a practically unlimited number of concurrent downloads. But bittorrent has too high a start-up cost and too high latency to replace http. I am not sure how easy it would be to build a peer-to-peer http replacement that has low enough latency to be useable for html pages etc., and it would not work for cases sites like slashdot etc., where each user sees the site slightly differently.. And of course, there would be the problem of getting enough users for it to be viable. But I think it could be done, and would be valuable once in place.

    Of course, one could try to go a bit further too, and make the site data itself distributed and encrypted, to make it censorship-resistant and anonymous. But that would add a huge amount of overhead, as demonstrated by freenet, which has even larger latency issues than bittorrent (if I recall correctly) due to the need to obsufcate the routing. So while something like freenet is good to have, it would also be nice to have something simpler and faster like what you suggested.

    1. Re:P2P HTTP would be great by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He did mention Freenet. Specifically saying that it did exactly what he wants to see done, but the level of anti-tracking anti-censoring built in comes with severe performance penalties.

  7. Re:different reasons though by fredprado · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But it is the same thing. This IS political censorship. In both places censorship tries to block what is against the law. In both places people use programs to get around it because they don't agree with those laws.

  8. Re:Sneakernet beats all countermeasures ... by captjc · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's an old joke:

    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. --Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1996). Computer Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 83. ISBN 0-13-349945-6.

    Upgrade that to an SUV filled with Multi-Terrabyte hard drives. Latency's a bitch but throughput is pretty damn good.

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  9. Magical Thinking. by westlake · · Score: 2

    The internet sees any blockage as an outage and works to avoid it.

    The Internet sees and understands nothing. It is a machine like any other. It can be managed and it can be changed.

    The notion that a communications network with a global reach and universal access is inherently anarchic and ungovernable is as old as the telegraph and probably older than the semaphore. The geek should know better.

  10. Re:Countdown till Tor blockades begin. by budgenator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think so, Governments use Tor for sensitive communications, if they banned Tor for civilians then only Governments would be using it. If you want to hide a tree, you hide it in a forest, not the middle of a wheat field!

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  11. Re:different reasons though by fredprado · · Score: 2

    Oh yes we are. We are talking about the control of information. We are talking about giving to a few the control over what we could repeat, express or comment about. The same laws that allow for blockades against warez sites allow for blockades against any site that breaks copyright in any way, no matter how marginal or subjective that may be, and it is not a novelty or a rarity to see people using copyright to attempt to block ideas they do not wish to spread.