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Chain Reaction Shattered Antarctica's Larson B Ice Shelf

New submitter Jim McNicholas writes "At the end of the summer of 2002, all 3000 lakes on the Larsen B ice shelf drained away in the space of a week. And then the 2,700-square-kilometre ice shelf, which was some 220 metres thick and might have existed for some 12,000 years, rapidly disintegrated into small icebergs. The draining of one lake on an ice shelf changes the stress field in nearby areas, causing a fracture circle to form around the lake."

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  1. Re:Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by anagama · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Fuck you troll. Is that some kind of inverse defense of the candidate who promised to be the exact opposite kind of president he turned out to be? That Obama is FINALLY getting crap over his crap policies is rightfully earned and very belated -- but to trivialize that by linking it to something obviously unrelated is to attempt to subtly soften the completely appropriate criticism that Obama has spent the last five years channelling Nixon.

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  2. Re:Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by siride · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    He hasn't been great, but he has done many of the things he said he would: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

  3. Re:Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    He's done few things that are truly important. The Patriot Act? He didn't repeal it. The TSA? He's done nothing. The NSA spying? He basically agrees with it. The surveillance state in general? Again, he basically agrees with it. Neither the republicans nor democrats are any good.

  4. Al Gore expected to win California. Obamacare by raymorris · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In other news, Al Gore is expected to win California in the November 2002 election.

    Editors - if 2002 is submitting stories, please warn them about "we have to pass the bill to see what's in it".

  5. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Lendrick · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And he raised the price of healthcare, then forced me to buy it!

    ...and is providing health care to millions upon millions of people who need it and wouldn't otherwise be able to get it. Your issue is petty by comparison.

  6. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Dishevel · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And he raised the price of healthcare, then forced me to buy it!

    ...and is providing health care to millions upon millions of people who need it and wouldn't otherwise be able to get it. Your issue is petty by comparison.

    Yup. The freedom to make your own decisions pales in comparison to giving fucked up shit to everyone for free.

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  7. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Those "millions" you're talking about? They're all people who can't afford it like him; now they're required to buy just as the prices are doubling. Three cheers of liberalism! So much for the middle class and the young.

  8. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well maybe if the system was all greed based corporate health care, it wouldn't cost so much, but noooo thanks to *conservatism* everything under the sun costs and arm and a leg and is only available to the privileged classes. The system is already rigged to be expensive, and it wasn't liberal ideology that go us there, it was greed.

  9. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Brett+Buck · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I will send you the bill then, OK? Extorting money from me is not a petty matter to me.

  10. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by sumdumass · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You can track the rapid increase in the cost of healthcare right back to the HMO act of '68 and when it pumped medicare into the same HMO style managements. That by the way was the brainchild of Senator Ted Kennedy and other liberal do-good'rs, not conservative or conservatism.

    It is the same problem with the cost of college increasing by leaps and bounds if you want to get a clue. Here is a hint, that has nothing to do with conservatism either.

  11. a few thousand people, for over a trillion $ by raymorris · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Are you sure about those millions? Last I heard, it was several thousand. At a total cost of around a trillion dollars, something like $275,000 per new recipient.

      I guess if you count all of the people who were already getting subsidized healthcare and are being moved to Obamacare, there may be millions whose healthcare was changed from one program to another.

  12. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sorry. Try again. The HMO act of 1968, while hardly perfect and starting a cascade of ugly things was pushed through because health care costs were large and accelerating. Before the concept of HMOs.

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  13. Re: Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by sumdumass · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, the HMO act was pushed through because the government was wanting to escape the costs of medicare which it created in 1965. The costs of medicare increased more then expected so they looked for a way out. The government created HMOs while subsidizing them because liberals like Ted Kennedy wanted universal care like the socialist in Europe were putting in place.

    Also, it was 73, not 68 that the law is commonly attributed to. I highly doubt you know anything insightful about the law or the conditions surrounding it due to your failure to catch that mistake.

    In case you are wondering, the problem with health care costs is the government paying for them. that's what caused them to rise and it's what is continuing to cause them to rise. It's the same reason why college costs are rising too.