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Chain Reaction Shattered Antarctica's Larson B Ice Shelf

New submitter Jim McNicholas writes "At the end of the summer of 2002, all 3000 lakes on the Larsen B ice shelf drained away in the space of a week. And then the 2,700-square-kilometre ice shelf, which was some 220 metres thick and might have existed for some 12,000 years, rapidly disintegrated into small icebergs. The draining of one lake on an ice shelf changes the stress field in nearby areas, causing a fracture circle to form around the lake."

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  1. Somehow this will all be Obama's fault. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I just know it.

  2. Global warming by p51d007 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Just not MAN MADE global warming. How long until the so called scientist, who are socialist/communist/anticapitalist going to wake up to the fact that there is no such thing as man made "climate change" (they had to change the name since the warming wasn't happening). The earth is hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years old, and they take data for a few decades and call it a trend. I remember as a high school student in the mid 70's, these same so called scientist were ringing alarm bells of a new ice age coming. Living in the midwest, it was kind of hard to argue with them. -20(F) for days at a time, record amounts of snow that lasted for months. All of this, at a time when smokestacks belched out crap that would choke a goose. Tail pipes routinely spit out soot. Now after 40 years of emission controls and the ever present hand of the EPA into every aspect of life, including how much water your toilet uses, the alarm bells of (man made) global warming are continuing. It's like the alarmist won't be happy until we are all freezing to death in caves again. The problem with a lot of scientist, is they are non believers in god, and if you rule out god as who controls the skies, then you have have the "evils of man" that will destroy the planet. Well, man couldn't destroy the planet if he tried.

  3. on a volcano spewing CO2 by raymorris · · Score: 0, Troll

    And that "alarming" measurement was on a volcano that emits CO2. It's unfortunate that most climate science isn't science. There IS something going on, something very subtle, but it's nearly impossible to any real understanding of it because there is so much politics.

      Most everything published on the topic isn't just slanted, it's so ridiculously off to one side or another that's it's useless. I mean seriously, you take your "atmospheric" CO2 measurements on a volcano? That's not even acceptable by propaganda standards. Baghdad Bob would laugh at you and suggest that somewhere in the desert or sea would be much more believable, just do it a 200 miles downwind of Los Angeles.

    1. Re:on a volcano spewing CO2 by Pino+Grigio · · Score: 0, Troll

      Of course, denier sites focus on the increase sea ice

      Using the term denier in a scientific debate demonstrates you have no understanding whatsoever how science works. Worse, you claim that the Antarctic is losing ice because it's gaining ice because of calving, which is the most incredible nonsense. But then, when Arctic ice grows or shrinks, it's always due to warming, never due to the wind moving the freely floating ice around.

      Really, what is the point in debating with people like you? I have no idea.

    2. Re:on a volcano spewing CO2 by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1, Troll

      Using the term denier in a scientific debate demonstrates you have no understanding whatsoever how science works.

      You seem to be confusing "scientific debate" with "engaging cranks who hold to a disproven hypothesis no matter the weight of evidence agains them".

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    3. Re:on a volcano spewing CO2 by Pino+Grigio · · Score: 1, Troll

      It's a label for people who deny scientific results.

      It's a label to shut down any debate and prevent people disputing a scientific hypothesis, disputing the statistical treatment of real world data (which is woeful in Climate Science), or disputing the output of computer models, especially computer models that appear to be completely wrong when compared to actually real-world data.

  4. oh, so they edited the data for 15% of the days by raymorris · · Score: -1, Troll

    Oh okay, I'm it's perfectly objective, then.
    As long as the guys trying to get evidence of increased CO2 are admittedly excluding 15% of daily data, it's a perfectly objective source.

    Or you could report readings that AREN'T on top of a giant CO2 vent. Seriously, you have to REALLY want to believe them if you need to pretend that's credible. Don't you have any interest at all in knowing what's actually going on? I can sort of understand fandom, though I prefer intellectual honesty. Even hardcore sports fans WATCH THE GAME to find out what happened, though. They don't just pretend their team won.

  5. The 400 reading is from atop Mauna Lua by raymorris · · Score: 0, Troll

    The only 400 reading publicized was here on Slashdot a few weeks ago. The measurement was from atop Mauna Lua - a volcano that emits CO2 constantly. You'll note that the defender below acknowledges that fact while saying it's okay because the person who did the reading edited the data to come up with the 400 estimate.

    That's seriously the best "defense" - "it's okay, we cooked the data to say 400 because we think that's what it might have been if we weren't on a volcano."