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Microsoft Closes Xbox.com PC Marketplace

SmartAboutThings writes "Microsoft is definitely changing things in its gaming department: it has now announced in a support note on the Xbox site that it will be shutting down the Xbox.com PC Marketplace on August 22nd. This comes shortly after news that Microsoft hired former Steam boss Jason Holtman, whose mission at Redmond is to 'make Windows great for gaming.' The Microsoft Points system will be retired on August 22nd as well. The Games for Windows Live client software will not be affected, at least initially, letting you play previously purchased games."

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  1. "letting you play previously purchased games." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, thank you! Thank you so much! I feel so special, so lucky! Thank you so much again for letting me continue to play my previously purchased games!

    1. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by josephtd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe the summary misspelled rented.

    2. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And people wonder why I don't get rid of my movie collection in favor of netflix or some other streaming service...

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    3. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by mlk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The two are not the same.
      Netflix you are renting X files for the next 30 days. You know this. No expectations that you can stop playing the £Y and movies will still magic onto your tellybox.

      "Buy" a game from Steam/Xbox/Origin/what evs and you pay just the once and expect it to continue working.

      One you are getting a service, the other you are getting a product.

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    4. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until GoG closes and you have to reformat and can't actually download the game from them again.

      There's thing thing called 'backups', dude. You see, Gog actually give you an installer file that installs the game, you don't have to download it from them every time you want to install it.

    5. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      local mode has you logged in... in the no save gfwl mode you're not logged in as local, if you are logged in then the saves do work in gfwl.

      it's sort of tricky to get it to that mode, some.. ehm.. unauthorized games copied from the net need you to run through some hoops to install older gfwl client. but it works and then you can make local saves.

      that's to say that it's a pretty shitty drm in the end.

      one of the problems of ms is that they keep changing this shit around every fucking 12 months. but why have another store if they have a games store for metro shit games? they really fucked up their digital distribution over the past couple of years(and of course for other tools they have yet another download/pay service).

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    6. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And this is the kind of crap people love having to deal with when they just want to play a game that's installed on their PC, on their PC.

      GFWL is the DRM scheme that makes other DRM schemes look good.

    7. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can backup and install steam games off line as well.

      But you can't run the games if Steam has gone away. I've also seen a few people say that they used the Steam backup software and the file it generated wouldn't reinstall.

    8. Re:"letting you play previously purchased games." by Wookact · · Score: 2

      You CAN run the games if Steam goes away. They have promised to release patches to remove DRM if they ever go out of business. Please inform yourself of the facts before you spread your gut feeling as the truth.

  2. Future of Microsoft?!? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "and let's see if we can whip of a decent clone of Space Invaders."

    Really, to make Windows more game friendly kick all that cruft out of it which pre-loads into memory just in case I want to fire up Excel, which I don't have installed and foolishness like that. To be game friendly it needs to be lean, not bloated.

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  3. "letting us play" by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm thankful I'm being permitted to play the game I bought. Fortunately I only bought one game with that "windows live" abomination strapped onto it.

    Joys of DRM.

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    1. Re:"letting us play" by Dins · · Score: 5, Informative

      Simple. Just buy the game you want, then download a cracked version of it and play to your heart's content.

    2. Re:"letting us play" by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm thankful I'm being permitted to play the game I bought. Fortunately I only bought one game with that "windows live" abomination strapped onto it.

      I heard they're going to rename it 'GamesForSure'.

    3. Re:"letting us play" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The submitter / slashdot editors intentionally worded the summary that way to get a rise out of you. Don't rise to the troll bait.

      The article itself is worded differently and implies that you of course have access to your previously purchased content which was obviously never in question. The summary here however is worded inflammatorily as "at least for now" and "letting you".

      Don't make it so easy for people to treat you as a monkey.

    4. Re:"letting us play" by Hatta · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That only rewards their wacky DRM schemes. Pirate it and play it, or don't play it at all. Just don't pay for DRM. Ever.

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  4. I dont think they ever really wanted to until Win8 by Voyager529 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    See, The Xbox PC marketplace, the once or twice I used it, was never really a desirable means of doing anything. Every time I tried something, it would only be available on Xbox...because apparently hiding things that can't be used on a PC was an insurmountable task. It didn't seem to do cool things like let you play PC versions of Xbox games you own or save my game of Batman Arkham Asylum that was a GFWL title such that I could pick up where I left off after a format...

    It surprises me that Microsoft has traditionally done such a piss poor job of integrating ANYTHING involving gaming or software purchasing into the OS. Maybe now with Win8 they'll take it a bit more seriously, but I'm still shocked they didn't partner with EA years ago and make a windows-integrated service that precluded the necessity of Origin in the first place.

  5. Re:How to make windows great for gaming by Beamboom · · Score: 2

    Dude, that made as much sense as saying, "How to make a car fly: Exit the car and enter a plane". :D

  6. Re:I dont think they ever really wanted to until W by Sockatume · · Score: 2

    Microsoft's various divisions were pitched against each other as internal competitors; all of the gaming talent was in the Xbox console division, but internal politics likely meant that the Windows team could never, ever ask them for help.

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  7. chasing ghosts. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Redmonds day late and dollar short approach to rectifying its inevitable downfall in gaming is cure for the symptom and not for the cause. While Steam announced a radically new direction in gaming thats been clammoured about for ages, Microsoft basically fashioned the next generation console into a prison yard for publishers and a land mine for customers. Damage control be damned, the XBox likely will not play a huge part of 2014's next generation consoles seeing as Sony has not only achieved architectural parity but actually vocalized sympathy and support for gamers in the face of Redmond. Nintendo can make hardware mistakes but its hard to escape the notion that almost every game in their lineup is about fun and rewarding gameplay first.
    If gabe is worried about the success of his shift to linux, all he has to do is utter the magic words, "Half Life 3." I'll gladly spend the next 2 days fervently compiling and patching to ensure Gentoo can run it.

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  8. Re:I dont think they ever really wanted to until W by mjr167 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft partnering with EA would be like Bubba partnering with Ray Ray to chase you down in the woods.

  9. Don't worry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure they won't do this to the Windows 8 Marketplace.

    1. Re:Don't worry... by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      I'm sure they won't do this to the Windows 8 Marketplace.

      That's like telling a cat to stay away from the curtains and expecting it to listen.

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  10. Microsoft does this ever couple of years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft has ZERO internal commitment to gaming on the PC (which obviously doesn't impact third-party games sales), but every few years some optimistic loser manages to persuade the higher management to allow him/her to 'push' PC gaming from an official Microsoft position once again. This frequently coincides with the new console launch, when the PC may get one or two titles that Microsoft is also publishing on said console.

    Of course, third party game companies that make PC games are FAR FAR FAR better of ignoring all Microsoft initiatives, and making their code as Microsoft independent as possible (essentially using DirectX and nothing else). Using newer Microsoft APIs beyond DirectX ensures massive incompatibilities between different operating systems (done by MS on purpose to strong-arm upgrades to the latest version of Windows).

    Since Microsoft actively began preventing the porting of the Xbox's best exclusives (Halo and Gears of War) to the PC, PC gamers became fully clued in as to Microsoft's true agenda. Microsoft itself has formally PROMISED to prevent its own AAA Xbox One games from appearing as PC versions, and stated that the PC exists only for casual gaming (go Google if you don't believe me).

    As for Live in its existing PC game activation form, please stop the FUD- that's going nowhere. Microsoft has clearly promised to ensure every game sold that needs a live connection will get a live connection. Maybe ten years after the last such game is sold, there may be an issue, but no-one is going to have issues using their games in the near future.

    PC gaming has never depended on Microsoft, and never will. DirectX was a contribution, but if it had never existed, we would be using a just as good open-standard alternate universe version of something based on Open GL today, just as Open GL ES now exists for the tablets. If Microsoft had EVER been clued in, it would be responsible for the service provided by Valve that we know as 'Steam'. Initially Valve only began the Steam project in frustration that no-one else was doing anything similar in the PC space.

    Thankfully, the fact that PC owners will be getting games like GTA V and The Witcher 3 has nothing to do with Microsoft whatsoever.

  11. Re:How to make windows great for gaming by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    Valve need an alternative to Windows now Microsoft are trying to kill their business model with their own 'app store'. So they're convincing more and more game developers to start releasing Linux versions of their games.

  12. Always complainers by Ravaldy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The way I see it, MS could write everybody on /. a $10 000 cheque and slashdotters would turn around and say it wasn't done right. Just cause it's MS.

    1. Re:Always complainers by guttentag · · Score: 2

      No, we would say it wasn't done right because because the check would be drawn on the Windows Xbox Developers Kinect Connection Development Bank and made out for $10.00 in Windows 8 Xbox Windows Gamerscore points, which would only be redeemable through the "Windows RT Xbox Games Bing Banking -- Live app" that is easy to to use once you find it on your Windows RT Pro Home Edition that no one bought even at below-cost prices. Because that's what Microsoft does. It has some serious fragmentation and naming convention issues... which is what happens when people have to stand in meetings because the CEO broke all the chairs.

      Seriously... "Xbox.com PC Marketplace?" Does that sell PCs or Xboxes? Is that on the Xbox or a Web site?

    2. Re:Always complainers by Nyder · · Score: 4, Informative

      The way I see it, MS could write everybody on /. a $10 000 cheque and slashdotters would turn around and say it wasn't done right. Just cause it's MS.

      You must be new, oh yes, I can see by your 2.6 Million UID that you are. Let me give you a clue. MS has been making products and dropping support for those products for quite awhile. See, MS had ADHD. They can't pay attention, so they miss the trends until they are already happening. Then they try to play catch up, but since they can't focus worth shit, they lose interest again.

      You know how many times they have had a PC Gaming Initiative? About every 5 years. How long do they last? One set of games being released, if that. And even that is to promote something else. Halo & Shadowrun? Remember those? Had to have Vista to run them because they required Direct X 10? MS was pushing Vista & Direct X 10, telling peeps they were there for PC gaming. And yet those 2 games, with a small hack, could run just fine on XP because they didn't use DX 10, they used DX 9.

      I'm not even going to into the features that MS always promises for new OS's that never make it. Or how they will focus to take over a market, then let it sit (Web Browsers is a good example of this. They fought tooth and nail to beat Netscape, then once they did, sat on IE6 for years without updates.

      No, I don't like MS. They have a history of being twats and most of us know it.

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  13. Re: Games for Windows by Mabhatter · · Score: 2

    That was my first thought as well.

    The problem with Games on Windows is that Microsoft keeps redeciding that Windows gaming is "second class" to Xbox gaming. The only keep it alive because certain PC games just don't work in a console setup yet. Steam does everything better and isn't "demon spawn incarnate". The founders are all ex-microsofties and the company on the beginning was run just like a "baby Microsoft".

    If this guy had business sense at all he'd just close down Microsoft's pitiful attempt and move all their PC games to Steam. Microsoft has way to much NIH Syndrome to let that happen... I guess some lucky guy can happily take their money until they decide to grow up. PC gaming on Windows is a niche product.. They have no intention of ever supporting it properly, but just cannot let it go. Microsoft was almost as laughable trying to deal with outing their software on iPads via the Apple App Store...