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Aging Is a Disease; Treat It Like One

theodp writes "In a letter to Sergey Brin, Maria Konovalenko urges the Google founder to pursue his interest in the topics of aging and longevity. 'Defeating or simply slowing down aging,' writes Konovalenko, 'is the most useful thing that can be done for all the people on the planet.' Calling for research into longevity gene therapy, extending lifespan pharmacologically, and studying close species that differ significantly in lifespan, Konovalenko says 'it is crucial to make numerous medical organizations recognize aging as a disease. If medical organizations were to recognize aging as a disease, it could significantly accelerate progress in studying its underlying mechanisms and the development of interventions to slow its progress and to reduce age-related pathologies. The prevailing regard for aging as a "natural process" rather than a disease or disease-predisposing condition is a major obstacle to development and testing of legitimate anti-aging treatments. This is the largest market in the world, since 100% of the population in every country suffers from aging.'"

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  1. Watch out what you ask for! by MarkvW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How fabulous! If we cure aging, then we'll get to have WAR all of the fucking time because of the population pressure.

    Or we can reserve anti-aging treatments for the rich and privileged.

  2. Re:Yeah, that's just what the world needs by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's actually exactly what the world needs the more our society becomes knowledge-oriented. If you could double the active lifespan of a (sane, healthy) individual, you'd get twice the amount of wotk for the same amount of high-school and college man-years. It's simple economy of scale.

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    Ezekiel 23:20
  3. Tithonus by jonyen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Make sure you ask for eternal youth.

    "when Eos asked Zeus to make Tithonus immortal, she forgot to ask for eternal youth. Tithonus indeed lived forever 'but when loathsome old age pressed full upon him, and he could not move nor lift his limbs, this seemed to her in her heart the best counsel: she laid him in a room and put to the shining doors. There he babbles endlessly, and no more has strength at all, such as once he had in his supple limbs.'" (Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithonus

  4. pandora's box by asmkm22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As much as I like the idea of a longer life, there is simply no way our planet will support it. Which means it would be a perk for the wealthy and influential, rather than the unwashed masses. Nothing good could come from that.

  5. Re:That's so sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this comment modded up? Suffering from disease, disability and decrepitude on both physical and mental levels is a gift?? Then even being in disease and disability at any age is a gift. Why bother treating them at any age?

    Parent comment is so bad it's not even wrong (to word it like Wolfgang Pauli)

  6. Re:Yeah, that's just what the world needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That sounds like a good reason to limit reproduction, not a good reason to make me die. I don't recall ever having made you die. What's your beef?

  7. Re:That's so sad. by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fortunately, the people who believe death is a gift will rapidly die out, and only us aspiring immortals will be left.

  8. Re:Yeah, that's just what the world needs by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, if people continue to have the same number of children they do now, and our lifespan doubled (or tripled), we'd have a brief period of doubling or tripling the population, and then the rate of growth would fall back to original levels as people started dying again.

    For most longer-living and/or higher educated cultures, the birth rate is already closely tracking the death rate. For those with a shorter lifespan, women are already limited to the number of children they can have in their lifetime, and the number wouldn't change.

    Short story: the sooner we expand our lives, the better, as we can sustain doubling the population _now_, but that might not be the case after we travel further along the growth curve.

  9. I absolutely agree by Isara · · Score: 5, Funny

    I say sterilize after one. And heavy tax burdens for families with more than one child. Irresponsible breading will be the death of us all.

    You would not want to fry the population with mass-produced tasteless breading. To bread the right way, I suggest the following:

    1 dozen eggs (per human)
    1 lb flour
    3 boxes of bread crumbs
    herbs and seasonings to taste

    1) Mix seasonings in bread crumbs.
    2) Coat a damp human in flour.
    3) Dunk human in eggs and then roll it around in the bread crumb mixture

    Then you can fry and bake the human, but make sure that it's fully-cooked. You can get diseases from undercooked human.

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    BOOP!
  10. Re:That's so sad. by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aging isn't a disease; it's a gift.

    I pity the people who can't see this.

    While I'm sure there's a lot to mental maturity, what is happening to the body I can't call anything but decay. Loss of sight, loss of hearing, loss of smell, loss of motor function, all sorts of aches and pains, wrinkles, sagging and hair loss there's absolutely nothing there I'd consider physically or aesthetically positive. Some age gracefully but that's just saying they look less shitty than the rest, if I could keep/regain the body of a 20yo I'd take that in a heartbeat. And judging by all the people who desperately try to cling to their youth, I'd wager 99%+ of the population would gladly avoid this "gift".

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    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  11. Dementia, Cancer, Osteoporosis are a Gift! by Alejux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to some commentators here. If you consider aging a gift and not a disease, then you must consider a gift the suffering imposed on the elderly and the trillions of dollars that are spent in treating all these "natural" diseases. People who want to grow senile and dependent on help of strangers to eat their soup, can go f*ck themselves! I rather be strong and productive when I'm in my nineties.

  12. Re:That's so sad. by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think neural network algorithms give some insight here - they start off very flexible and prone to "leaping to conclusions", but gradually grow more stable, then become so fixed in their ways that they almost completely ignore inputs. If people didn't grow old and die, we'd turn into a society of stodgy, inflexible people lacking dreams and unwilling to compromise over anything. We'd probably end up killing each other over stupid things like Coke vs Pepsi. Aging and dying is the way the species keeps its innovative edge - by systematically eliminating individuals whose neural nets have become too inflexible, so make way for younger people who are willing to try and risk new things.

  13. I'm willing to handle the experiment. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The brain as miraculous as it is can only handle a single lifetime of information.

    And you have how many multi-lifetime old samples in your research to support this claim.

    Come up with a way to give me multiple lifetimes, healthy as I was in my late teens, to see if my brain crashes due to "filling up", and I'm willing to be an experimental subject.

    I'm already in my late '60s. I'm also studying for a college degree and getting 4.0 (much better than when I was trying to work my way through college and avoid the draft during the Vietnam era.)

    Psych research has shown that intelligence, as measured by I.Q. tests, increases with age. ("Senile dementia" is a handfull of specific diseases, which only a fraction of people get, and eliminating THOSE would obviously be part of "curing" aging.) Meanwhile, the brain's capacity for both memory and processing is very large (as shown by the amount of info people with eidetic memory accumulate, and are able to index and retrieve without apparent problems, over normal life spans.)

    So you think there's a limit to how much the brain can handle, a wall we might hit if we cured aging? Let's find out. Bring it on!

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    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way