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Should Cops Wear Google Glass?

Nerval's Lobster writes "Over at The Kernel, staff writer Greg Stevens wonders whether police departments around the world should outfit their officers with Google Glass. There's some logic behind the idea. A cop with wearable electronics constantly streaming audio and video back to a supervisor (or even a Website) would be less likely, at least in theory, to take liberties with civilians' civil liberties. But not everybody thinks it's such a good idea. Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the ACLU's Speech, Privacy and Technology Project, wrote in a recent blog posting that society needs to make choices 'about the extent to which we want to allow the government to store up that data so that it has the power to hit 'rewind' on everybody's lives.' In the view of that organization, 'that's just too much power.' That being said, law enforcement wearing electronics that streams constant video and audio data would still be subject to the law. 'If the officer is recording a communication he has in public with someone, there's probably no wiretap problem since there's at least the consent of one party and no expectation of privacy,' Hanni M. Fakhoury, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, wrote in an email to Slashdot. 'But if he's recording peripheral communications between two separate individuals, than there's potential wiretap liability depending on the circumstances.' What do you think? Are cops wearing Google Glass (or similar wearable electronic) a good idea?"

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  1. Just for video recording? by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I don't understand why so much of the focus on google glass is on the video camera. Lots of devices can record video, that's nothing new.

    If police should be wearing google glass, it would be because it can provide heads up information, as opposed to the rather bulky laptop-based systems now in their cruisers.

    1. Re:Just for video recording? by AtariEric · · Score: 2

      My thoughts exactly. With face recognition (likely at the station), the officer can be informed whether the person he's looking at has a warrant or not. Ditto with licence plates. Of course, that can be a double-edged sword...

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    2. Re:Just for video recording? by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      I don't understand why so much of the focus on google glass is on the video camera. Lots of devices can record video, that's nothing new.

      Because it enables constant video recording in a way which is much easier than using a separate video camera or a smartphone.

    3. Re:Just for video recording? by Seumas · · Score: 2

      Currently, every police car is equipped with facilities to allow the tracking of license plates (cars) of citizens throughout the city.

      Strapping cameras to their heads turns every cop into a non-stop surveillance machine in ways that would otherwise be difficult to implement in most cities (ie, throwing cameras up all over the place, UK-style).

    4. Re:Just for video recording? by houghi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, they can immediately see what they can arrest you for,
        as we all are guilty of breaking some law.
      All they have to do is link everything you did to the laws and they will find something. At least enough to find a reason to trow away your rights.

      The great power of cross referencing.

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    5. Re:Just for video recording? by DaTrueDave · · Score: 2

      Facial recognition isn't efficient or accurate enough to work well for general law enforcement, but it wouldn't require a warrant.

      License plate recognition is the hot new law enforcement tool that is very efficient and accurate, and also does not require a warrant. Nearly every new patrol car is being outfitted with license plate recognition technology in the US. Some are manually activated, but most of them constantly record the location of every license plate that it "sees", and logs that data in a national database. It's very effective.

    6. Re:Just for video recording? by icebike · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I doubt the database is national.

      But its not warranted in any case.

      The old saw is that you have no expectation of privacy in public. But that is merely a play on words, and is a shallow argument.

      We have an expectation of going about our business without being tracked, and stalked by authorities (or anyone else) for no reason at all.
      The public space is owned equally by all, and simply because you walk down a sidewalk or drive down a road there is no valid reason for the government to record that event, or to be able to prove that you did walk or drive there. Its not their space. Its OUR space. Privacy by virtue of anonymity in public is the normal expectation in a large urban area. The chances of meeting someone on the street that recognizes you is inversely proportional to the population density, and that is the natural condition that humans have had forever. Because it is possible to eliminate this natural anonymity doesn't make it right just because you are in a public place.

      If someone followed you around, you could call the cops on them, and they would be questioned and detained long enough for you to at least get out of sight. Unless they were a cop themselves. But somehow police get this right for no reason at all.

      All stolen/wanted vehicle plate numbers should be downloaded to these police cars, and the plate recognition software should check against THAT LIST ONLY, and immediately discard any other recognized plate number. Don't allow it to be kept for even 10 seconds.

      Its pointless to even allow this functionality at all, because when a vehicle is stolen the first thing that happens is that the plates are changed out. The focus is not to recover stolen vehicles. Its to keep tabs on everybody.

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    7. Re:Just for video recording? by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      Then forward the video to the NSA and let them do the face recognition. By the power of magic, this is legal.

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  2. A good idea with one condition by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the recording is "missing" for any reason, or if the cop stops recording or removes the recording device for any reason other than someone else breaking it (and visibly doing so), everything the cop says about the unrecorded events should be assumed to be a lie.

    1. Re:A good idea with one condition by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. You are right. Malfunctions happen on a regular basis. The fact that they only happen when it benefits the cop, and never when it would incriminate them is pure coincidence.

      Since you clearly have little experience dealing with the police, or worse yet, are one yourself, how about letting the people who actually have experience with the many, many criminals wearing badges do the analysis. Thanks.

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    2. Re:A good idea with one condition by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Yes, malfunctions happen, so what? They're not that frequent and should be easy enough to make it obvious to the officer when there's a problem so they can go get it fixed immediately, just like when there's a problem with the car, gun, radio, etc.

      The point is that police corruption and abuse is a well-documented problem, and no cop would willingly record evidence against himself, so justifiable suspicion should fall on any cop who just happens to have a malfunction right before the person he's talking to repeatedly walks into a door, or he "finds" a handgun and kilo of cocaine on that guy he just shot. It's not evidence, but it should tilt the balance of suspicion. Especially against those particular officers who have a long stream of "malfunctions" during which questionable activities occurred. And for the honest cops it will provide ready video evidence against trumped up complaints.

      Cops are human. Give them power and some of them will abuse it a lot, and a lot of them will abuse it a little. We give them some serious power, so why shouldn't we also put a leash on them to discourage abuse?

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  3. The streams have to be restricted by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The streams from these "cop cameras" have to be restricted so that they can only be accessed by the officer's supervisors and with a subpoena. I strongly object to the proposals some have made that the footage be made public. I do not want my every interaction with the police made public, even if it's getting a jaywalking ticket.

    "Innocent until proven guilty" can't be achieved when facing the court of public opinion.

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    1. Re:The streams have to be restricted by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      Not only that but it would also not be good for the cop either (lets assume that not all cops are bad for a moment)

      If the streams were just made public so that anyone could watch them, you know damn well the criminals would be watching them as well. So using some search tools and a simple map program the criminals would be able to pinpoint the cops exact locations at all time. worst case they use this info to sell drugs or rob trucks, worst case they go cop killing or killing at random.

      Cop cars have dash cams, some cops are already mic'd at all times. Putting them in google glass, or something similar only makes sense. as long as the streams are NOT public, and are only called upon when needed, meaning the streams are not being sent to a group of TV screens somewhere just simply sent to a server farm to be pulled up with the proper need.

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    2. Re:The streams have to be restricted by Immerman · · Score: 2

      A delay, say twenty-four hours, would solve those problem nicely. If your patterns are obvious enough to be derived from the historical feed then you can be pretty sure the local thugs already know them.

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  4. San Francisco Fire is banning helmet cams by tranquilidad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The San Francisco Fire Chief just banned fire helmet mounted cameras after helmet-cam footage from the Asiana crash became public. Some say it was done to protect the privacy of victims, others to protect the city from liability as in this case where one of the victims was still alive when run over by a responding fire truck.

    1. Re:San Francisco Fire is banning helmet cams by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      I find it curious that law enforcement wants to monitar all things, except themselves.

  5. not google glass, but recorders by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is a good idea to have cops wear personal video recorders at all times.

    By the same token, it might be a good idea for a lot of other people to do the same thing.

    The wiretap laws need to be adjusted to make recording anything you might otherwise see with your eyes permissible unless its copyrighted information. Obviously you can't have people walking into movie theaters with cameras active. But a lot of situations legally would be a lot more simplistic if we had video evidence in all altercations.

    Corruption and bribery would be less of an issue. Various types of non-fatal assault... accidents. All of it would be easier to process if we had video evidence.

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  6. Who watches the watchers by VernonNemitz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The answer to that ancient question, because we can actually do it with today's tech, is "everyone". So all public buildings and public/government vehicles should be wired with webcams that anyone can access at any time to see what Public Servants are actually doing (instead of what they claim to be doing). Remember Heinlein's "Notebooks of Lazarus Long", and the particular quotation "Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny." Cops that can do things without being watched are in a position to abuse power just like any other tyrant.

    1. Re:Who watches the watchers by currently_awake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Allowing the general public to see the video without a warrant means people can spy on you (using the government cameras) and therefore invade your privacy. If a police officer questions you about something, it would end up on the internet even if the accusation was provably false. Also it means criminals can map out where the cops go (or don't go) in order to find gaps for criminal activity.

    2. Re:Who watches the watchers by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      So yeah, there a couple bad cops

      Yes. When your sample size is only 2 or 3. Power corrupts and police are no more immune from that corruption than the rest of us. It would be very surprising if it were otherwise.

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    3. Re:Who watches the watchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How often do you actually hear about a police officer in America doing something wrong on national tv? Very rarely, even locally I barely ever hear about that

      That is because the mainstream media is in bed with the government and cover up a lot of shit. It's the same reason you rarely hear about all of the unsolved crimes and the criminals who do get away. They are trying to save face and retain power.

    4. Re:Who watches the watchers by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How often do you actually hear about a police officer in America doing something wrong on national tv?

      And from that you take away that police seldom do anything wrong?

      By your logic, "Honey, I've told you I've never cheated on you, so that's proof I'm not cheating on you!"

      My mother was a cop, and my uncle a us marshall your ideas of cops sneaking around and all of them doing illegal things like legalized crooks is hilariously stupid

      Nobody says that "all of them" are doing illegal things. But they're supposed to be held to a much higher standard than the rest of us, because they're the ones who have power.

      Here in Chicago, we went through decades where a Division Commander was running a torture regime which put scores of people in jail and on death row by torturing confessions out of them. For the decades that was happening, nobody heard about it, so by your standard, it wasn't happening.

      It doesn't take a big percentage of crooked cops to put the entire system at risk. Just ask the people over at the Innocence Project, who have, as of now, gotten over 300 people off death row by using DNA evidence, about the damage police misconduct and prosecutorial overreach does. Ask one of those guys who were waiting for a lethal injection until a group of volunteers peeked under the skirts of police departments and found something very foul.

      Most cops I know are a lot less sanguine than you are about police misconduct, which splashed mud on them and makes their job a lot harder. Every one of them can tell you stories of bad cops and the damage they do.

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    5. Re:Who watches the watchers by icebike · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is because the mainstream media is in bed with the government and cover up a lot of shit. It's the same reason you rarely hear about all of the unsolved crimes and the criminals who do get away. They are trying to save face and retain power.

      I would hate to live in a society that had enough cops to be sure there are no unsolved crimes and criminals never get away.
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    6. Re:Who watches the watchers by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You act like every cop in the world needs to be monitored so they don't do bad things. How often do you actually hear about a police officer in America doing something wrong on national tv? Very rarely, even locally I barely ever hear about that. So yeah, there a couple bad cops, but what about the other 934,976 cops that never get in trouble or do bad stuff?

      You hear about it almost every week, if not every day. If you don't, then its only because you are not paying attention.
      Google "police officer suspended" and limit it to any time frame you want. If you don't get 10 pages of hits I'd be surprised.

      There are a lot of bad cops, and a lot of cops that are just bullies. There are even more cops that are provoked into taking actions they shouldn't take by taunting assholes, who somehow never show up in the news.

      But by and large, this group of cops is small by comparison to the total number of cops that follow the rules most of the time, do their jobs without trying to piss off and provoke everyone they come into contact with.

      So no, not every copy should wear recorders. But maybe if X number complaints filed against against an officer that guy gets to where the camera for a month.

      It would serve two purposes. Shame the officer into better behavior, and warn the public that this guy has a short fuse.

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    7. Re:Who watches the watchers by Frobnicator · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That is exactly why they are so badly needed. Not Glass, but a continuous recording device.

      Several cities started pilot programs with cop-cameras, and mine was among them buying 80 cop-cams. We had a few bad cops fired, complaints against cops almost vanished, and now the city is trying to make it mandatory for all cops on duty. They provide strong evidence both to support your innocence and to support your guilt. They also provide evidence against bad cops.

      Look at the New York Times article regarding the results from one city: Complaints about abuse and civil rights violations dropped by 80%, use of force dropped by 60%.

      Bonus points are that the camera footage is evidence. If they are notified to keep the footage, they MUST do it and the MUST turn it over to your defense. As this type of footage grows we can demand "pics or it didn't happen". Just like the dash cams transformed traffic tickets (rate of claimed abuse plummeted, rate of fought tickets increased because there was video evidence) the same should spread to all aspects of police work. Around here it is already transforming defense lawyer's approaches because they can get unmodified views of the crime scene from every officer's point of view. (This becasuse the recordings are evidence, and any potentially exculpatory evidence must be shared with the defendant.)

      I hope it takes off. If an officer says there was anything from a 'confession' of a crime or there are claims of police abuse, if there is no cop-camera footage the judge and jury should be asking, "what is this cop trying to hide?"

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    8. Re:Who watches the watchers by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are even more cops that are provoked into taking actions they shouldn't take by taunting assholes, who somehow never show up in the news.

      Don't call me an asshole. The cop swore at me first. So cops have the right to swear at regular citizens, but we do not have the right to swear back at them? Is this some kind of aristocracy class system, where cops are the only first class citizens?

      But maybe if X number complaints filed against against an officer that guy gets to where the camera for a month.

      Unfortunately in my state complaints against cops are kept strictly confidential. The only people who would know about them are the people who filed them and the cops themselves and the cops are not going to police themselves. That much should be pretty clear by now. Law suits are public record of course. That was one reason I wanted to sue my police attacker, but I couldn't afford the law suit and the cop probably would have finished off what he started and simply murdered me anyway. He's just that kind of guy.

      But by and large, this group of cops is small by comparison to the total number of cops that follow the rules most of the time, do their jobs without trying to piss off and provoke everyone they come into contact with.

      Bullshit. You have no better statistical basis to make such a claim than anyone else. Go read about the Stanford Prison Experiment and then try to say this with a straight face. Given power people turn bad. They turn mean and violent. And those are people that didn't even start that way. Most cops start that way and just grow worse when they graduate frorm school yard bully to professional thug.Your claim is more wishful thinking than anything else.

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    9. Re:Who watches the watchers by greenbird · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You act like every cop in the world needs to be monitored so they don't do bad things. How often do you actually hear about a police officer in America doing something wrong on national tv? Very rarely, even locally I barely ever hear about that. So yeah, there a couple bad cops, but what about the other 934,976 cops that never get in trouble or do bad stuff?

      Considering locations where they've equipped their cops with body cameras have seen as much as an 88% drop in excessive use of force complaints you might want to rethink those numbers. And in that case only half the officers were wearing the cameras.

      "Wrong" is a relative term. I'm betting a great many cops do "wrong" things all the time and it doesn't get reported on the news. When the actions are being recorded all parties involved are much more likely to keep things civil. It means cops have to actually do what they're supposed to in de-escalating confrontations rather than instigating them.

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    10. Re:Who watches the watchers by troll+-1 · · Score: 2

      Allowing the general public to see the video without a warrant means people can spy on you (using the government cameras) and therefore invade your privacy.

      That's true but it's my understanding the courts have ruled that there is no expectation of privacy in a public place. If you don't want to be recorded, stay home. I think this page sums up the current state of the law: http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers

  7. Re:"Consent Of One Party" Has To Change by dwillden · · Score: 2

    You have it backwards, one party consent laws are designed to protect the public from inadvertent violation of wiretapping laws. Want to record the professor's lecture to help with your notes and study, make sure you get written approval from not only the prof but also from everybody who enters or exits the room while your recorder is running.

    Oh and Government is not allowed to be one of the consenting parties. If they want to record someone they need a warrant. One party is actually better if you understand how it really works.

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  8. Obviously by paiute · · Score: 2

    A cop with wearable electronics constantly streaming audio and video back to a supervisor (or even a Website) would be less likely, at least in theory, to take liberties with civilians' civil liberties.

    Yes, which is why it won't happen.

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    1. Re:Obviously by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2

      but it does happen. In the UK some police have taken to wearing very obvious cameras, partly to protect the policeman and partly to add evidence where necessary - can cut down on expensive trials and paperwork if you can play back the footage to the suspect once he's been caught. It also acts as a deterrent, apparently, though I figure a policeman in the area does that, they don't need a camera if they're there.

      These have been used openly since 2006 in some areas.

  9. Rialto PD did a real world study. by Above · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Rialto PD did a real world study, with a write up in the New York Times plus a formal report by a Cambridge University Professor.

    The results were overwhelming positive. Use of unnecessary force on citizens dropped. Bogus complaints against officers dropped. Time spent dealing with he-said she-said situations dropped.

    Big cities should be jumping on this technology. In 2012 New York City spent 735 Million Dollars on settlements. I suspect cameras would dramatically reduce that number, both from officers being forced to be more careful but also from bogus citizen complaints being quickly dismissed with video proof.

    Is Google Glass the right answer, no. It does way more than just video, and has cost and durability concerns. However personal video cameras are the answer, every cop (and probably firefighter and paramedic) should wear one.

  10. Complicated Balance by FuzzNugget · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Considering the immense amount of power bestowed upon them and how they continue to demonstrate just how undeserving of it really are, we certainly want all actions of law enforcement to be fiercely scrutinized with the undeceiving eyes and ears of a camera and microphone. On the other hand, it carries a considerable potential to frequently violate individuals' privacy.

    On balance, it should probably be uploaded to a private server, accessible only to some sort of civil rights watchdog group with the power to charge law enforcement with violations; and these charges need to have TEETH. No, officer, you don't get a paid vacation for bludgeoning and tazing a suspect because he might have been a bit rude or simply defensive of his rights ... you get charged for felony assault with a deadly weapon AND your wages/pension/whatever are garnished until you've paid out restitution, medical bills, etc.

    A court order would be required for police access to specific footage and an additional, separate order for general publication. Release to private citizens or attorneys strictly for the purposes of legal defense would require only identification and an internal report.

    Additionally, police should be required to immediately relinquish their duties to a fellow officer the instant the recording device ceases to function for any reason and continue only when it is repaired or replaced. Otherwise, the entire system is useless because oops, it just happened to malfunction at exactly the time I was accused of beating the suspect to a pulp -- I swear, he tripped and fell!

    But who am I kidding... this is all a pipe dream as we are waaaaay too far down the rabbit hole of tyranny for anything like this to gain traction.

  11. Re:Federal Cop Experience by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    but for every dirty cop, there are at least a thousand who are trying to make their neighborhood better.

    And those thousand want the dirty ones gone, I bet.

    I have a very high opinion of police. The level of professionalism has gone up so much in the past 40 years (at least in Northern cities) that it's like a completely different animal. Used to be, the guy from the people you hung out with who became a cop was the last guy you'd want with any authority. Now, the young people going into the academy are first-rate. I deal with them every day, living two blocks from the Chicago Police Academy. Maybe my perspective has changed, now that I have a family and property, but I know for sure they've changed. For the better.

    The civilians who are giving the orders? Not so much. They seem more entranced by paramilitary hardware and tactics than by community policing, which is a damn shame.

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  12. Re:Federal Cop Experience by troll+-1 · · Score: 2

    The level of professionalism has gone up so much in the past 40 years (at least in Northern cities) that it's like a completely different animal. Used to be, the guy from the people you hung out with who became a cop was the last guy you'd want with any authority. Now, the young people going into the academy are first-rate. I deal with them every day, living two blocks from the Chicago Police Academy.

    I agree. Cops seem a lot more sensitive to civil rights these days. However, I also live in Chicago and last year had my phone confiscated by the police for videoing an arrest on Division and Rush. I got my phone back after the cops erased the video. I say yes to Google Glass for cops.