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Joining Lavabit Et Al, Groklaw Shuts Down Because of NSA Dragnet

An anonymous reader was the first to write with news that Groklaw is shutting down: "There is now no shield from forced exposure. Nothing in that parenthetical thought list is terrorism-related, but no one can feel protected enough from forced exposure any more to say anything the least bit like that to anyone in an email, particularly from the U.S. out or to the U.S. in, but really anywhere. You don't expect a stranger to read your private communications to a friend. And once you know they can, what is there to say? Constricted and distracted. That's it exactly. That's how I feel. So. There we are. The foundation of Groklaw is over. I can't do Groklaw without your input. I was never exaggerating about that when we won awards. It really was a collaborative effort, and there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate." Why it's a big deal.

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  1. Re:Where will this end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh come on, Americans are still free, just monitored. Being watched doesn't make you less free.

  2. Re:It was a myth by azav · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are! We are THE BEST in overall prison population.

    USA USA!

    We're also pretty good in scientific illiteracy.

    Gooooo Jesus!

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    - Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
  3. Re:It was a myth by fuzzytv · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's one difference, though. The Swiss are right.

  4. Re:It was a myth by JWW · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, Scotland isn't known at all for having any nationalist pride.

    It's not like they made a fucking movie about it or anything.....

  5. Re:It was a myth by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish to apologize for the anonymous coward's apology which merely is perpetuating the myth that Canadians apologize too much. Sorry about that, eh.
    Je tiens à m'excuser pour les excuses présentées par le lâche anonyme qui ne font que se perpétue le mythe que les Canadiens excuses trop. Désolé pour ça, eh bien.

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    rewriting history since 2109
  6. Re:It was a myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    P.S. Irony of a Scotsman claiming he's never seen nationalist pride, fucking priceless dude.

    He is probably not a true Scotsman.

  7. Re:It was a myth by nedlohs · · Score: 1, Funny

    I live in the US you fucking moron.

  8. Re:It was a myth by Gorshkov · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe but French Canadians have such a wonderful french accent. That excuses everything else.

    Calling what is spoken in Quebec "French" is just as silly as saying what is spoken in Newfoundland is "English"

  9. Re:The U.S. government is EXTREMELY corrupt. by RenderSeven · · Score: 3, Funny

    So you're saying its now a white flag? How freaking appropriate.

  10. Re:It was a myth by HappyHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    The neat thing about the English language is that it has it's own built-in excuse for massively varying dialects and accents. Adding "ish" on the end of a word in English generally means "bares some vague resemblance to, but probably isn't actually the same as". Kinda like saying "Well, what we did was legal-ish", or "it looks kinda brownish". When we say we're speaking English, we're saying what we are speaking is "kinda sorta vaguely, but not quite exactly like what they speak in England". Thus, what they speak in Newfoundland is totally Engl-ish.

    Technically, under those rules, Quebec "French" is also more Engl-ish than it is France-ish, but don't tell them that, it'll just upset them.

    Yes, I did completely make that up on the spot, but it's a real-ish explanation.