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US Electrical Grid On the Edge of Failure

ananyo writes "Facebook can lose a few users and remain a perfectly stable network, but where the national grid is concerned, simple geography dictates that it is always just a few transmission lines from collapse, according to a mathematical study of spatial networks. The upshot of the study is that spatial networks are necessarily dependent on any number of critical nodes whose failure can lead to abrupt — and unpredictable — collapse. The warning comes ten years after a blackout that crippled parts of the midwest and northeastern United States and parts of Canada. In that case, a series of errors resulted in the loss of three transmission lines in Ohio over the course of about an hour. Once the third line went down, the outage cascaded towards the coast, cutting power to some 50 million people. The authors say that this outage is an example of the inherent instability the study describes. But others question whether the team's conclusions can really be extrapolated to the real world. 'The problem is that this doesn't reflect the physics of how the power grid operates,' says Jeff Dagle, an electrical engineer at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, Washington, who served on the government task force that investigated the 2003 outage."

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  1. Wrong analogy by halexists · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So facebook could probably lose a few servers is probably the more apt analogy, yes?

    1. Re:Wrong analogy by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it needs to involve cars. All analogies, especially those pertaining to something technical, must always be reduced to cars.

    2. Re:Wrong analogy by halexists · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it needs to involve cars. All analogies, especially those pertaining to something technical, must always be reduced to cars.

      You're right, you're right... my mistake! "Facebook could probably lose a few gas stations and remain a perfectly stable network..."

    3. Re:Wrong analogy by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

      The goal for a good analogy should always be to score points and win the game.

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    4. Re:Wrong analogy by tippe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I was thinking the same thing. I felt a little shafted, to be honest, during the 2003 blackout. In my area (Southern Ontario) power was restored quite early, before 11:00pm IIRC. I wish that it had lasted a bit longer so that I could appreciate the beautiful night sky a little longer. You don't often see the milky way within city limits... I almost wish they regularly scheduled these sorts of blackouts. It wouldn't hurt us to be reminded once in a while that the centre of the universe is somewhere above our heads, and not in the middle of the city where we live...

    5. Re:Wrong analogy by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's what every Citroen salesman used to parrot, yes.

      And it's true! (for some models with self-levelling suspension)

      eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HK2nTRvm_s

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    6. Re:Wrong analogy by Cardcaptor_RLH85 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Strictly speaking, the center of the observable universe is wherever the observer happens to be at that moment.

    7. Re:Wrong analogy by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Funny

      Try living through a blackout when your home is on the upper floors of a TALL (30+ stories) apartment building. Walking up those stairs after a long work day (and an even longer commute) on a hot summer day was /not/ a fun experience. In the dark, no less. Emergency generators for the elevators were, apparently, too much of an expense. And those batteries in the emergency lighting fixtures only last a few hours...

      And I couldn't even get online to bitch about it once I got home! I mean, really; it was like living in the 20th century!

    8. Re:Wrong analogy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver. (been playing Krater)

  2. Re:Coincidentally... by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Informative

    American house wiring seems to be terrible.

    Based off of a sample size of 1. Nice generalization.

  3. The story of the 2003 blackout by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Basically, the problem can be almost entirely blamed on FirstEnergy of Ohio. They had, in a matter of hours:
    - A software bug in the monitoring tool.
    - No backup monitoring, so when the first one wasn't started properly there was no way of knowing there was a problem.
    - A plant shutdown due to poor maintenance.
    - Multiple power lines failures due to not cutting back trees as they were supposed to.
    - Alarm systems breaking, that were simply ignored.
    - Utterly failing to notify nearby states that there was a problem so they could prevent it from spreading.

    You'll notice that almost all of these problems would not have happened had they not cut corners wherever they thought they could get away with it. And if the US electric grid is in trouble, I'd have every reason to expect that it was other electric companies doing the same sort of thing.

    Can we get Morgan Freeman on the case?

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    1. Re:The story of the 2003 blackout by dj245 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basically, the problem can be almost entirely blamed on FirstEnergy of Ohio. They had, in a matter of hours: - A software bug in the monitoring tool. - No backup monitoring, so when the first one wasn't started properly there was no way of knowing there was a problem. - A plant shutdown due to poor maintenance. - Multiple power lines failures due to not cutting back trees as they were supposed to. - Alarm systems breaking, that were simply ignored. - Utterly failing to notify nearby states that there was a problem so they could prevent it from spreading.

      You'll notice that almost all of these problems would not have happened had they not cut corners wherever they thought they could get away with it. And if the US electric grid is in trouble, I'd have every reason to expect that it was other electric companies doing the same sort of thing.

      Can we get Morgan Freeman on the case?

      I can tell you that the industry has really taken this event to heart and learned from it. The linked articles are based on some awfully shoddy conclusions- the scientific article is about interconnected networks in a theoretical sense, and not one of the references has anything to do with the electrical grid. The other link is from "somebody" making conclusions about the power grid based on the scientific article. The grid today is not the same grid we had in 2003. For the last 10 years, NERC has been throwing down standards and requirements for electrical production and distribution based on the lessons learned in 2003. NERC's website may make them seem like "recommendations", but for many parts of the country, an power station or transmission company must follow their standards if they wish to do business.

      A failure of the type experienced in 2003 is unlikely to happen. Even if a company such as FirstEnergy makes colossal screwups, rules are in place which make the other parts of the grid more robust to that kind of problem. The chance of a large-scale blackout is reduced in the last 10 years (as opposed to the articles arguments that it is the same, or greater than ever before).

      Think about it. Unless you live on the end of a low-population road, your electricity is probably more reliable than any other service you have. The average electric customer in the US loses service for about 8 hours a year. That is 99.9% reliability. The average Japanese electric customer has 5 minutes of outage per year. That 99.999% reliability sounds great, but those extra 9's cost them dearly. The average TEPCO customer pays about 26-32 cents per KWH. My cost in Connecticut is about 8 cents per KWH. I don't want to pay 3-4 times as much for electricity just to have five 9 reliability. Do you?

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  4. Re:Coincidentally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Solar panels is un-American.
    Try to set up a gas-driven backup generator first. You will get tons of support and advice. Then try to add some solar panels "to help a bit when it is running over capacity"
    Then you might be allowed to sneak over to full solar as long as the gas-driven generator is clearly visible.

  5. Inherently unstable by Ateocinico · · Score: 5, Informative

    As every electrical engineer knows, an AC transmission system is a quadratic-complex system. And in the sense of both the inherent complexity and the complex numbers involved. There is no energy storage in the system (no inertia), has noticeable delays, and it is tightly coupled. Only high redundancy and decoupling can make the system more reliable. But that is costly. Who wants to pay more?

    1. Re:Inherently unstable by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As every electrical engineer knows, an AC transmission system is a quadratic-complex system. And in the sense of both the inherent complexity and the complex numbers involved. There is no energy storage in the system (no inertia), has noticeable delays, and it is tightly coupled. Only high redundancy and decoupling can make the system more reliable. But that is costly. Who wants to pay more?

      The challenge is balancing the system's ability to self-heal with the system's ability to self-destruct. There is no reason that losing 3 transmission lines (out of a dozen running through the corridor) should have done anything more than taken three lines worth of subscriber capacity offline. If the system "let them go dark" there wouldn't have been a cascading failure. Instead, in an attempt to self heal (something that works great for just one or two lines going down) the system self destructed instead. Identifying where the tipping point is and acting before it is reached is the only real barrier to preventing such a large problem from happening again. Shame it's taken 10 years to really understand the problem.

  6. Re:Coincidentally... by khallow · · Score: 5, Informative

    American house wiring runs on 110V, which is low enough for voltage drop to be a serious issue.

    Any voltage is low enough for voltage drop to be a serious issue.

  7. I know most of you don't live where I do... by neorush · · Score: 4, Informative

    ....but we are used to regular power outages here in Upstate New York. We lose it for several hours monthly and have an automatic backup generator for these purposes. We have a Gas stove, wood fireplace, and oil lamps so even without the generator it would just be darker and the internet would not work. My point is, the northeast blackout proved just how unprepared most Americans are for a power outage. I understand the technical challenges of living on the 30th story of a building are much greater than for my house in the middle of no where, but there are some basic things you can do to function for a few days without power if need be.

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  8. Yup... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been seeing it coming for years. It seems like it would be prudent to have other means of power generation at your house if at all possible. You can get a generator that'll run on LP or natural gas, power your whole house and cut in automatically if there's an outage for less than 10 grand. After a three day outage last winter, this has moved WAY up my list of priorities. If I had an exta few tens of millions sitting around I'd just drop a pebble bed reactor in my back yard and watch the vein in that one neighbor's head just explode! Heh heh heh.

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  9. Re:Coincidentally... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    not enough sunlight in many parts of the country

    Actually most of the USA gets more sun than Germany but they are building out their solar capacity at record speed.

    high capital cost, maintenance costs, etc

    In case you missed it, the price of solar cells has fallen off a cliff in the last few years. And some companies will install the system for no money down, then sell you electricity at a rate lower than the utility.

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  10. Re:Coincidentally... by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Delivering electricity to a socket isn't hard.

    Delivering electricity at constant voltage and frequency is already hard.

    Delivering electricity at constant voltage and frequency in a grid where a few wandering clouds and a gust of wind create production spikes is definitly hard.

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  11. Re:Coincidentally... by xenobyte · · Score: 4, Funny

    Based off of a sample size of 1. Nice generalization.

    Hey! That's one better than some of the climate change theories!

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  12. Re:Coincidentally... by Shoten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Delivering electricity to a socket isn't hard.

    Delivering electricity at constant voltage and frequency is already hard.

    Delivering electricity at constant voltage and frequency in a grid where a few wandering clouds and a gust of wind create production spikes is definitly hard.

    You missed two other factors...

    Delivering electricity at constant voltage and frequency in a grid where a few wandering clouds and a gust of wind create *unpredictable* production spikes and drops, and where the source of some of the generation assets is hundreds of miles from the distribution points it needs to get to, is hard.

    Lots of people like to talk about how much sun the US gets, and how much space there is to put up wind farms. But they don't realize a few things. One, the best places for PV farms and wind farms are far, far from population centers...and that means that utilities have to figure out how to manage VARS over those distances which is still not a problem that's entirely been solved. T. Boone Pickens had to bail on his whole wind farm venture in the Southeast because of this. And two, while the cost of PV panels (as would be put on the roof of a home of business) has dropped significantly, the majority of the cost of an on-premise solar installation is the anti-islanding gear that ensures the safety of any linemen who show up to deal with a power outage, assuming that only the end of the break in a line that leads back to the rest of the larger grid is live. And the cost of that gear has not changed much at all.

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  13. Re:Coincidentally... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of Europe (and much of the world) pays more for electricity than the average American. So what? The fact remains that in much of the USA it is already economical to install a solar system. And as time goes by, that trend is going to continue.

    But the real game changer will be the advent of affordable, grid-level storage, which is just around the corner. In particular, Khosla Ventures is backing two novel technologies that are expected to hit the market around the end of next year. One is the liquid metal battery that came from a research project at MIT. The other is a new twist on compressed air storage that uses a type of water carburetor to achieve isothermal compression. Both of these offer cheap, simple, reliable electricity storage.

    As the grid becomes more distributed and "islandable" it will naturally be more robust. And storage is a key enabler to make that happen.

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  14. Break-even calculation by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It does not make sense in your situation as a renter, but when you own it does, even with where installation costs and everything else are now. The average American family uses 940kwh/month.

    Let's take the case of a house in NYC, which has both some of the highest labor costs (pertinent to installation costs of solar panels) and electricity costs ($0.35/kwh from ConEdison). You need 26 290W panels to produce the electricity you need. The cost of panels plus installation totals $48.5K. After just the federal incentive it comes down to $32K. The ConEdison-provided electricity costs $4K/yr, so that's a break-even time of 8 years. Most people own their homes longer than 8 years.

    When you factor in the New York State solar incentive of 25% the break-even drops to 5 years. When you consider that ConEdison's price per kwh has increased more than 10% every year for the past 10 years, that break-even time drops to 4-4.5 years.

    If the upfront cost of $22K is still a barrier when you buy that house, you can shop around for energy efficient mortgages. They lend to you at an advantageous rate so you can afford to upgrade the home's energy efficiency, as in they knock of a couple basis points. The savings over a 30-yr mortgage are huge, on top of what you save on the electricity (most solar panels are rated for that long).

    In short, it already makes financial sense to do this stuff, and since the cost of going solar dropped 80% between 2008-2012 it's only going to get easier.

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  15. Re:Coincidentally... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hm, american electricity prices: http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a obviously in $ cents.

    A link that compares several countries (in german, but the countries should be easy to read) prices in dollar cents:
    http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/13020/umfrage/strompreise-in-ausgewaehlten-laendern/

    German electricity prices according to wikipedia however are 25 EURO cent.

    Pretty strange, as far as I recall I pay 17 EURO cent per kWh.

    So you are right: you pay less per kWh in the USA: However you use between 4 to 10 times the electricity a German household or person does. So bottom line you pay far more than we do.

    You know efficiency can be defined arbitrarily. You seem to define it on "cost per kWh" we define it on "consumed kWh".

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  16. Free beer by holophrastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I lived in Toronto at the time. We were without power for about 24 hours. We all banded together in a crisis situation to drink the beer while it was still cold.

    Local bars and pubs were giving it away free. And it was patio-season too!

    And I got to mock all of my friends whose cars were useless only because they didn't know how to manually open their garage doors. Funny.

    I'm looking forward to the next power failure.