AT&T Maintains Call Database For the DEA Going Back To 1987
Jah-Wren Ryel writes "Forget the NSA — the DEA has been working hand-in-hand with AT&T on a database of records of every call that passes through AT&T's phone switches going back as far as 1987. The government pays AT&T for contractors who sit side-by-side with DEA agents and do phone records searches for them. From the article: 'For at least six years, law enforcement officials working on a counter narcotics program have had routine access, using subpoenas, to an enormous AT&T database that contains the records of decades of Americans’ phone calls — parallel to but covering a far longer time than the National Security Agency’s hotly disputed collection of phone call logs.'"
The article is behind a god damned paywall. This one isn't. Google lists many, many sources.
Does Jah-Wren Ryel work for the Times and is trying to increase subscription numbers? A link to a paywall is no citation whatever.
Oh, and according to what I read, these aren't warrentless searches.
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I think there is a simple solution for this. All phones sold should have a written disclaimer stamped on the case that reads "All calls are monitored for possible criminal activity and any other reason the authorities may deem necessary." I can't believe anyone thinks there is any privacy left on any public communications system.
'For at least six years, law enforcement officials working on a counter narcotics program have had routine access, using subpoenas, to an enormous AT&T database that contains the records of decades of Americans’ phone calls — parallel to but covering a far longer time than the National Security Agency’s hotly disputed collection of phone call logs.'
See that, NSA? Somehow the DEA managed to use the ordinary justice system without totally dismantling the Constitution.
Not that I think the War on Drugs (TM) is any less stupid and wasteful than the War on Terrism (TM), but at least we see that we don't need a parallel, secret justice [sic] system to "fight" it.
I am not a crackpot.
I can't stand Ron Paul but you really can't tie Ron Paul to any of the complaints you just listed since he was on voting record for being against everything you just mentioned.
And you also can't say the democrats are less in favor of warrant less anything when these types of wiretaps and general invasions of privacy has increased since the democrats took over. I guess you can make the case that the democrats talk louder against theses actions, but that doesn't really count for shit - well, I guess talking loud works to fool people like you.
Ron Paul was a libertarian in the party that started the war on drugs (Reagan)
Nixon came up with the phrase, although it actually started under a Democrat, young fellow.
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Doesn't involve a judge though. Just the DEA.
Wrong. If there's a subpoena, there's a judge.
Not necessarily. The DEA gained the ability to issue 'administrative subpoenas' in 1970, and uses them routinely and on a nontrivial scale. All they have to do is assert that the material is 'relevant to an investigation' and out it goes. No muss, no fuss, no tedious judicial oversight.
While i don't believe in the 'if you are innocent you have nothing to hide' concept, most people really don't care of the government knows that the wife told them to grab some milk on the way home.
But I do care about the NYPD cannibal cop that abused a restricted law-enforcement database so that he could find women to consume. Do you really think he's the only one abusing the system?
"Once we've identified and embraced our sickness, we'll have strength...and that's when we get dangerous." - John Waters
Authoritarian Tattle Tales, that's what.