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Government To Release Hundreds of Documents On NSA Spying
Trailrunner7 writes "In response to a lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Department of Justice is preparing to release a trove of documents related to the government's secret interpretation of Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act. The declassified documents will include previously secret opinions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The decision by the Justice Department to release the documents is the second legal victory in recent weeks for the EFF related to the National Security Agency's intelligence collection programs. In August, the group won the release of a 2011 FISC opinion that revealed that the court ruled that some of the NSA's collection programs were illegal and unconstitutional. The newest decision will result in the release of hundreds of pages of documents related to the way the government has been interpreting Section 215, which is the measure upon which some of the NSA's surveillance programs are based. In a status report released Wednesday regarding the EFF's suit against the Department of Justice, attorneys for the government said that they will release the documents by Sept. 10."
That is a lot of [REDACTED]s.
So they won't hold back on the dodgy stuff. I trust them!
Drown 'em in paperwork. That'll keep 'em busy for a few years. In the meantime business is just humming right along.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Somewhere in Moscow, a lone man can be heard saying, "What?!? All I had to do was ask? Damnit!"
They cannot be trusted. They'll only feed us what they want us to see and nothing more. They'll deny that they do much more, and even will tell us they've curtailed some efforts.
They are the government. They lie. They cannot be trusted.
Just redacted enough to make them useless.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
I'll wait for the same, but unredacted docs that Snowden releases.
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1lsvip/us_and_uk_spy_agencies_defeat_privacy_and/
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1lt3g1/feds_beg_ny_times_pro_publica_not_to_reveal_that/
WE KNOW YOUR DOING WRONG and NOW YOU TRY AND CRY WOLF
One can hope the release will finally wake Americans up to the wrongs of their oppressive government but I doubt it. More likely we will see their Nobel Peace prize winning assassin feed them more of the 'but it makes you safer and of course you can trust your government' BS.
what's the point of surveillance when everyone knows that you are doing it?
your intel is worse then useless because you are hearing what they want you to hear
supposedly the nsa has our smartest people
this doesn't seem all that smart
They will lie again.
Today the government, under the Freedom of Information Act, released further evidence to its illegal spying on American citizens. However, it still adamantly refuses to actually stop the agencies from continuing in these actions. "I don't think it's our place", a Senator - insisting on anonymity - said.
"Yeah", one NSA agent was overheard saying. "It's no big thing that this information is out there. It's not as if we care what the people think anymore."
In response, the FBI announced it intends to one-up the NSA by revealing they shot Kennedy. "The NSA are just a bunch of Johnny-come-lately amateurs when it comes to screwing over the citizens of America. We've been doing illegal wiretaps for decades. And don't get me started on the fun stuff we did back under Hoover's administration; it's about time we got recognition for all that work!"
Asked if he worried that these relevations might have unexpected consequences, he said "Nah; it's obvious that the average citizen is so apathetic that we might as well flaunt our villainy. Anyway, what can they do? We have the power, the guns, the money. Let them whine on YouTube; we'll get to them soon enough."
A nearby CIA agent refused any comment as he drove off in what appeared to be an Area-51 flying saucer.
They already intentionally lied to the congress and suffered no consequences even after that was found out. What are the odds of what they show is the real full documents or just a redacted, partial, totally false or even a bunch of pages filled with loren ipsum? They already proved that deserve no trust and that don't care at all about it.
In REDACTED the US Department of Homeland Security REDACTED REDACTED and, under the direction of REDACTED, REDACTED of the National Security Agency, implemented REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED to REDACTED, REDACTED and REDACTED. Additionally programs were setup to REDACTED REDACTED and REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED using REDACTED. The methods included REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED as well as REDACTED REDACTED.
Signed,
Fuck You Citizens
Got the T-shirt.
http://www.cafepress.com/mf/78962026/the-nsa_tshirt
If we can piece together any meaning from what's left after all the giant magic marker redactions.
Some days it's just not worth
chewing through my restraints.
... because you can't ask government to hold itself accountable for breaking the law.
Okay, so we're getting "hundreds" of pages. Even if they're heavily redacted, it's a start. But anyone thinking that the government's documents on this only number in the hundreds is incredibly deluded.
So even if this sheds light above and beyond the Snowden leaks (either now or future), I'm sure they have plenty of stuff about the NSA, FISC/A, and more that they are withholding us. Maybe we'll get an idea of what that is once the EFF and others finish reading through all this...
Release the Chaff
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
We know the NSA has been promoting security standards that they can hack into. We know they've been pushing weaker security at standards organisations etc. Could SELinux which was developed by the NSA be vulnerable to this sort of attack? Could the NSA have a backdoor into Linux itself? I know that Linux should be the only alternative to Windows/OSX at this point for people trying to avoid NSA spying, but could Linux itself be vulnerable to the attacks the NSA can launch on other platforms?
So, what's the EFF using for email these days? :)
paper and pencil via carrier pigeon?
just curious.....
You're funny, but that stopped being true about say 5 years ago - with the rise of social media came even better crowdsourcing, so we'd have that stuff split open in under a month.
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
I already know what they're gonna say:
Here was a block of asterisks in the shape of a piece of paper, but the junk filter got me. So, visual funny gone, stupid rant added. Anyways, the whole thing will be mostly black lines and some page numbers, maybe part of some letterhead.
and so on
* Hopefully this will get around the "junk" filter - I mean, I'm displaying a visual representation here, /.. Alas, the technology to differentiate between meaningless spam and an approximation of what a gov't document will look like isn't there yet. Maybe a linked image would do? But no one follows the links
The documents will contain header information with the body blacked out - redacted entirely.
Face facts. The greatest enemy of the Federal Government (unelected government) and the NSA and the President (and O Biden) are the legal citizens of the United States of America.
What way better to hide your transgressions.
"Give me Snowden, and I'll give you all the Syrian peoples lives in exchange. Well? Do we have a deal?"
I wonder how much of this stuff is already out in the wild thanks to Edward Snowden's efforts. Not much point if all this shit turns out to have already been released. It wouldn't surprise me if a good chunk of this is old news.
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
Don't you realize how typical that is?
ME, I'm fuckin NOBODY, i'm boring, i even pay taxes. You think these guys are playing 007 and have trillions of dollars of cool computer shit to hunt down some maniacal madman?
NO, this is the equivilent of the fat ole bastard at the DMV processing your license. THIS is your government.
Carlos Danger wants to run for office and people will vote for him. Because at least he never worked for the DMV.
By the way, have you ever actually met anyone that works for the IRS?
So have some pity on the poor bastard that has to sit in a cubicle all day making 5 copies of my 40,000 page dossier. Then he sits there with a black magic marker and redacts some much shit that it becomes obvious i am a HUGE threat to national security.
Now go talk to your neighbor, you know, the one who says "well he's gotta be guilty of something"
fuck! we are fucking fucked!
Anybody else in California do a double-toke, errr.. double-take on that?
without any significant release of data...
the excuse will be... "we ran out of toner, evidently photocopying pages of blackened text uses a LOT of it. we'll try to get more apportioned in next year's budget, but the actual time frame is up to congress''
What part of 'Foreign' does the NSA and their lawyers not understand? It must be a publiek skooling thing, no child left behind and all that...
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
If they change a lot of text to "[Redacted]", how is that not change?
As far as I remember, the slogan was just "Change". Not "Change for the better".
Dislike Obama all you like, but jesus christ, are you 12? Obummer? Really?
Here's one of the first documents released.
Try to control your excitement.