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Apple Unveils iPhone 5C, iPhone 5S

Nerval's Lobster writes "Apple unveiled the iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S today, which will replace the company's current iPhone 5. Apple CEO Tim Cook and other executives took to a stage in California to introduce both devices. The cheaper iPhone 5C features a plastic casing available in a variety of colors (green, blue, reddish-pink, yellow, white); Apple seems to have done its best to make the device look high quality, with the backing and sides molded of a single piece of plastic; on the hardware side of things, the iPhone 5C comes with a 4-inch Retina display, A6 processor, and 8-megapixel camera. The other new Apple design, the iPhone 5S, is the company's next-generation 'hero' device. While the iPhone 5 was a radical new design, the 5S is an iterative upgrade; on the outside, it looks pretty much the same as its predecessor (the new iPhone features a new color, gold, in addition to the 'traditional' black or white aluminum body). The iPhone 5S has an A7 chip built on 64-bit architecture (capable of running 32-bit and 64-bit apps), which is pretty speedy, to put it mildly. There's also the M7 'motion co-processor' which boosts the actions of the accelerometer, compass, and gyroscope—in theory, opening the door to more refined motion-related apps, such as ones devoted to exercise." The iPhone 5S also has a sensor built into the home button that will allow you to unlock the device with your fingerprint. Both new phone will be available for purchase on Friday, Sept. 20th. Apple announced that iOS 7 will be rolling out on Wednesday, Sept. 18th.

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  1. Fail by p51d007 · · Score: 0, Informative

    Nothing new, nothing jaw-dropping, but the faithful iSheep will be standing in line...

  2. Re:Fingerprint database, anyone? by sessamoid · · Score: 5, Informative

    The fingerprint is saved locally and encrypted on the individual phone's A7 chip. Never goes to iCloud. Never touches Apple servers.

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  3. Re:Fingerprint database, anyone? by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 1, Informative

    According to the speakers at the event, the fingerprint data is not transferred to any servers or backed up in icloud for precisely these security issues.

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  4. Re:Where's the led notification? by sessamoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    iOS6 has a setting to use the camera flash as a notification blinker.

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  5. Re:Stop with the conferences by Kufat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes.. Note that that's an off-contract price and that it ships with a user-unlockable bootloader.

    (I have no interest in a flame war. It's an answer to the question the parent asked, not an attempt to start an Android vs. iOS argument.)

  6. Re:So long, Apple by LDAPMAN · · Score: 4, Informative

    hmm...except for;

    1. non-plastic case
    2. Better camera
    3. Fingerprint sensor
    4. Motion co-processor
    5. 64bit A7 processor with double the CPU and GPU performance of the old proc

    Yea...nothing different there for your $100

  7. I bought a 4.... that's enough by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

    I do not expect I will be buying another iPhone ever again. The device is far too tiny... It seemed like a good idea at the time when I bought it, but having used it for 2 years now, I can see that it's not all that I had hoped for.

    My wife's Galaxy Note phone is awesome... reasonable screen size, and even comes with a stylus.

    If Apple made something along those lines (I think the term is "phabet), I'd probably purchase it, but I don't expect that they will, so once my current contract is up (next spring), I'm migrating to an Android.

  8. Re:Please select a comment: by new+death+barbie · · Score: 4, Informative

    5) All of the above.

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  9. Re:Stock price drop in 3, 2, 1... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 5, Informative

    How much time will Apple be able to sell smartphones at 600-700 USD?

    You mean like the Samsung 4S or the HTC One?

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  10. Re:Where's the led notification? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Informative

    General --> Accessibility --> LED Flash for Alerts --> On
    Since iOS 6 I think.

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  11. Re:iPhone fan, but feeling dissappointed by lazarus · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm with you. The iPhone is just getting too damn small for my 2000 year-old eyes to see anymore. Make it bigger FFS! Stupid kids...

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  12. Re:The 5C isn't even cheap by LDAPMAN · · Score: 4, Informative

    No differentiation? I hate to repeat myself but...

    1. non-plastic case
    2. Better camera
    3. Fingerprint sensor
    4. Motion co-processor
    5. 64bit A7 processor with double the CPU and GPU performance of the old proc

    Yea...nothing different there for your $100

  13. Re:Where's the led notification? by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seriously, when I had an iPhone, the one thing that annoyed me more than anything was the lack of a notification led.

    http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20122525-285/ios-5-tip-how-to-enable-led-flash-alerts/

    You're Welcome.

  14. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    What's next, sell iPhones at Walmart??

    YES

  15. Re:What is it with plastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Compared to metal or glass, plastic is much cheaper to work with (injection molding), it is cheaper to ship because it is lighter, and it is easier to handle because it will not bend or shatter as easily. Cheaper + cheaper + cheaper + cheaper = cheaper.

  16. Re:Where's the led notification? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative

    Besides if they are deaf and buying an iPhone, they are not only without hearing, they lack any kind of sense at all.

    Well, they could be primarily using it for texting and as a web device.

    The fraction of time that I use my cellphone for a voice call compared to what else I use it for is tiny.

    But googling for "iphone deaf people" comes up with various apps and settings which are intended to make it easier for them -- so it's not like no deaf person has ever owned an iPhone (or a cell phone in general).

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  17. Re:Surprising they're sticking with 64GB by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    No SD card slot?

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  18. Re:Fingerprint database, anyone? by LDAPMAN · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, it is stored there. The A7 includes a cryptographic module with non-volatile RAM that stores the data needed to authenticate the fingerprint. It works the same way a smart card works. It has a "store" function and an "authenticate" function built into the hardware. There is no "read" function so there is no way to get the data out without some serious and destructive forensics.

  19. Re:Fingerprints are not passwords! by Karth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mythbusters proved that this is completely incorrect. Scotch tape with your thumb behind it is enough to fake out many modern systems, since it detects the body heat. You have to breath on the tape for moisture, but that's about it.

  20. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, Apple releases a tiny 7" tablet, against Jobs recommendation when he was alive. Now they come up with a cheap iPhone, further eroding Aple's premium image. What's next, sell iPhones at Walmart??

    Jobs said they wouldn't make a 7" 16:9 tablet. They made a 7.9" 4:3 tablet that has 34% more screen area. I would expect Slashdot to understand basic geometry and know that these aren't equivalent form factors.

  21. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple has usually shipped the prior version of the iphone alongside their new version. When the 4S came out, the 3GS was the super cheap phone, and the 4 was discounted. When the 5 came out, it was the 4 that was super cheap (free with contract) and the 4S was discounted.

    The difference now is that the iPhone 5 has been recast as the 5C, and is not shipped alongside the 5S. Instead, it is still a higher priced product, although not nearly as pricey as the 5S, and the 4S is free with contract.

    TLDR: Apple has always shipped a "discounted" iPhone except for the original.

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  22. Re:Reviving the bit wars? by Dreadrik · · Score: 5, Informative

    The increased address space is not the important part of the ARMv8 64-bit architecture in this case.
    Instead it has twice the number of general purpose registers (31) with twice the size (64 bit) than that of the previous ARMv7 architecture. It also has 32 x 128 bit vector registers, which again is doubled. This allows for more data being processed at the same time, and also saves a bit on memory accesses, which are horribly slow. There are also other improvements such as built in AES encrypting and SHA hashing instructions.

  23. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think they are finally admitting that OSX has been a failure. All the ad money and snarky campaigns didn't move them much over 10% market share.

    That's the most stupid thing I've heard for a while.

    Last estimates are that Apple takes 45% of all profits from computer sales. Far, far ahead of Dell, HP and everyone else is far behind.

    And marketing money wise, Apple's spend is nothing compared to Samsung.

  24. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by Swampash · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think they are finally admitting that OSX has been a failure.

    http://www.asymco.com/2013/04/16/escaping-pcs/

    Highest average revenue per PC sold: Apple
    Highest operating margin percentage: Apple
    Highest operating margin per PC shipped: Apple
    Highest profit from PC sales: Apple
    Percentage of worldwide PC-industry profit going to Apple: 45% (second place: Dell, 13%)

    Note: figures do not include sales of devices running iOS. That's just OS X.

    Yep, failure.

  25. Re:Jobs must be rolling in his grave... by Xest · · Score: 3, Informative

    Jobs said no such thing. In fact, his quotes are even more damning when contrasted to the release of the iPad mini:

    "The reason we [won't] make a 7-inch tablet isn't because we don't want to hit that price point, it's because we think the screen is too small to express the software,"

    and then:

    "There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps."

    From an original news article at the time:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/apples-ipad-2-wont-be-a-s_n_767882.html

    Don't try and re-write history just because it paints an inconvenient view of your pet company/deity. If you're going to post a sarcastic comment about "Slashdot" not understanding something then you could at very least make sure you're not outright making shit up yourself to start with.

  26. Re:Fingerprint database, anyone? by DJRumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Head, meat tinfoil. Tinfoil, head...

    They already keep a fingerprint database. Passport? Fingerprinted. There are also 4 states that require fingerprinting for a drivers license (California, Colorado, Georgia, and Texas). Those 4 states make up about 1/4 of the entire U.S. population. People getting general assistance (GA) have also been required to give fingerprints since 1996. The same is true for many criminal history checks. Work in a government job? Fingerprinted. Teachers, Food Service workers? Fingerprinted. Foster parents? Ditto. Law enforcement, Judicial positions, handgun permits, etc. The list goes on and on.

    Chances are good that you are already in a database somewhere. The same hysteria surrounded video surveillance, which is widespread. The fact that you leave your fingerprints everywhere would tend to make them less of a illegal search issue, and more of a gray area as they are often used as a simple means of identification these days.