Visionary Nintendo President Yamauchi Dies

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Visionary Nintendo President Yamauchi Dies

Posted by timothy on Thursday September 19, 2013 @12:44AM from the value-added dept.

First time accepted submitter trickstyhobbit writes "Former Nintendo president and majority stockholder Hiroshi Yamauchi has died. He was president of the company for over 50 years and saw the development of the NES, SNES, Nintendo 64, and GameCube among other devices." His career at Nintendo is worth reading about.

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slight correction. by Gravis+Zero · 2013-09-19 00:51 · Score: 0, Troll

there was no Nintendo 64, it never happened. LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

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1. Re:slight correction. by TWiTfan · 2013-09-19 01:01 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Why does everyone badmouth that system? It wasn't the Playstation, but it wasn't that bad either. If you *really* want something to forget, the Virtual Boy and Power Glove are much better candidates.
  
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2. Re:slight correction. by dingen · 2013-09-19 01:04 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Yeah, don't get it either. Best Zelda they ever did was on the N64. And Mario 64 kicks ass too. N64 rocks.
  
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3. Re:slight correction. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · 2013-09-19 01:05 · Score: 1
  
  Did the N64 bleed red ink or something? My memory of its reception is that (while there were some limitations in terms of things like video cutscenes compared to much, much, cheaper storage in Sony's disk-based competition), a lot of N64 titles were very well regarded at the time, and the whole system has retained a real nostalgic glow (in a way that, say, the gamecube, arguably a more economically rational system) hasn't.
  
  An actually-successful 3D Mario release, fairly canonical releases of Mario Kart and Smash Bros, a good Zelda, Goldeneye (Christ, has that not aged well at all; but a console shooter that didn't totally blow was pretty serious business at the time)...
4. Re:slight correction. by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 01:07 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The N64 had some downright amazing games, and this is the first time I've seen any real hate/badmouthing for it. It's hard to dislike the console that brought us Mario 64, LoZ: Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask, Banjo Kazooie, Goldeneye 007, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Starfox 64, Mario Kart 64, Perfect Dark, Super Smash Bros, and... well, the list just goes on.
  
  That being said, this is sad, sad news. This is one of the men to whom I owe a large part of my childhood, and can blame part of my adulthood on as well.
5. Re:slight correction. by Blaskowicz · 2013-09-19 01:08 · Score: 1
  
  Funnily it was a superior platform for playing FPS games, Goldeneye was the apex of FPS gaming on a console. You could aim, and there was some nice difficulty, environment, mission based rather than a movie-like rail and cutscene game from start to finish.
6. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:09 · Score: 0
  
  All I see are butthurt Saturn fans that wished Shenmue came on the Saturn and wished Burning Rangers and Nights were successful.
7. Re:slight correction. by Adriax · 2013-09-19 01:10 · Score: 2
  
  But people love the Power Glove, it's so bad. Hollywood even told me so.
  
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8. Re:slight correction. by Cryacin · 2013-09-19 01:15 · Score: 1
  
  No power glove, no love.
  
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9. Re:slight correction. by oodaloop · 2013-09-19 01:24 · Score: 1
  
  What about that fricken robot??
  
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10. Re:slight correction. by ganjadude · 2013-09-19 01:28 · Score: 1
  
  I actually prefered the 64 over the playstation at the time. it was gamecube when I switched systems
  
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11. Re:slight correction. by Zerth · 2013-09-19 01:32 · Score: 1
  
  The Power Glove was Mattel's fault.
12. Re:slight correction. by jones_supa · 2013-09-19 01:32 · Score: 1
  
  Why does everyone badmouth that system? It wasn't the Playstation, but it wasn't that bad either. If you *really* want something to forget, the Virtual Boy and Power Glove are much better candidates.
  The construction and EMI protection of the console was also pretty good.
13. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:33 · Score: 0
  
  Then you should try looking away from the mirror. You are the only person to bring up the Saturn. Ergo, you must be the only butthurt Saturn fan you are seeing.
14. Re:slight correction. by Sockatume · 2013-09-19 01:34 · Score: 2
  
  It made them money and it was a critical success. Unfortunately it was the machine that came out in the period in which they lost market dominance so it's tainted by that.
  
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15. Re:slight correction. by CastrTroy · 2013-09-19 01:35 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Yeah, PlayStation got a lot of attention for using discs, because it meant they could have actual recorded audio tracks and lots of shiny looking cutscenes. But those characteristics really don't make a game that enjoyable. I still miss the fast load times of cartridges. Haven't played Wii U, but it seems that Nintendo has always put good load times ahead of "ooooh shiny". The Gamecube used smaller disks, and many games had almost no noticeable load times. Meanwhile, everyone was waiting minutes for things to load on PS2 and XBox. The first party titles for Wii also had great load times. It's not impossible to have quick load times on a disc based system. I don't know why so many developers don't pay attention to this aspect.
  
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16. Re:slight correction. by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 01:42 · Score: 1
  
  It's been so long that I forgot there ever was a Sega Saturn. For me it always sort of jumped from Genesis to Dreamcast.
17. Re:slight correction. by Chris+Mattern · 2013-09-19 01:53 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  And I don't think anybody has forgotten Goldeneye 007 on the 64.
18. Re:slight correction. by flimflammer · 2013-09-19 01:56 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, yes it did.
19. Re:slight correction. by six025 · 2013-09-19 02:00 · Score: 1
  
  And I don't think anybody has forgotten Goldeneye 007 on the 64.
  Yup!
  N64 may not have had the numbers, but some of the games were among the most played of all time among my group of friends. We had the most fun with the N64 and that is really what counts.
  Diddy Kong Racing was freakin' awesome.
  Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem is one of the best ever horror themed titles to hit the shelves.
  Peace,
  Andy.
20. Re:slight correction. by Chris+Mattern · 2013-09-19 02:03 · Score: 1
  
  People will never forget how they had Final Fantasy VII and threw it away. Everything the Playstation did, they could've done instead, but they decided not to. And as successful as the Nintendo 64 was, the Playstation was massively more successful.
21. Re:slight correction. by CanHasDIY · 2013-09-19 02:05 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, don't get it either. Best Zelda they ever did was on the N64. And Mario 64 kicks ass too. N64 rocks.
  Hell yes; Best wrestling games ever made were for the N64, and even that shitty Star Wars: Podracer game was pretty damn fun.
  
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22. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:06 · Score: 0
  
  All I see are butthurt Saturn fans that wished Shenmue came on the Saturn and wished Burning Rangers and Nights were successful.
  Funny. As a bittersweet Saturn fan, I can't say I ever had much of a wish to play Shenmue ever. I thought Burning Rangers was a silly concept--though never played it to know how well it was executed (after all, lots of games with a silly premise are engaging enough). And while Nights provided an interesting technical demo, Klonoa did a much better job at providing a decent 2.5D experience--okay, I sucked at Nights too.
  Seriously, the N64 had plenty of great games and I wouldn't rag on it. The Saturn was a bit more of a disappointment games wise, mostly because its original concept of being a 2D arcade port system was just a bad idea--too many good arcade games were on the Neo-Geo and SNK had is own Neo-Geo CD system while the Playstation got a lot of the good RPGs and action games. That isn't to say there aren't any good games for it. So, that's why I'd say I'm a bittersweet fan. Well, that and the lack of a great Saturn emulator still (Yabause is pretty amazing now days, though), which I think is honestly a large reason why there aren't more Saturn fans.
  Honestly, most people never owned a Saturn (I do) and even fewer are willing to spend hundreds of dollars per game to try out the best games for the system (I won't, so you can imagine how I and others play them). And ports/updates of Saturn games is basically a non-starter (Panzer Dragoon Orta is, AFAIK, the only exception), so most people really have no frame of reference to compare anyways except on some idea of popularity being the deciding factor--of which PSX users can readily laugh in N64 users faces, which shows the whole wrong angle that you're looking at things. Of course, consider how old the systems are and how much emulators were in their infancy at the time, most people of that era were fans of whatever system they/their parents could afford which generally translated into one system and a small collection of games. That alone is enough of a warped perception to recognize the fandom and popularity is a pretty useless metric, especially as a measure of quality of games. I mean, hell, look at how well Mortal Kombat sold. And try actually playing a port of it today, without buying into the "it's good because the blood is red" ignore ever other aspect of the game.
23. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:07 · Score: 1
  
  SNES Zelda was superior. Filthy younglings.
24. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:12 · Score: 1
  
  The Power Glove was made by Mattel, not Nintendo.
  
  I also happen to agree, the N64 was garbage. The Virtual Boy was kind of neat with a couple of good games, but obviously was never going to be successful due to red.
25. Re:slight correction. by Psyborgue · 2013-09-19 02:13 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  I have a Wii U. I haven't really noticed a huge difference between load times on disk versus the external USB2 hdd. From what I've read, the transfer rate is comparable and most game data is sequential. For most first party games (Nintendo land, NSMBU, Pikmin 3) the loading times been fantastic. Third party games have been good as well (such as Rayman Legends), with the possible exception of Lego City Undercover (off the hdd) where the load times are noticeably bad.
26. Re:slight correction. by king+neckbeard · 2013-09-19 02:16 · Score: 1
  
  Podracer was a great game, it just happened to based off a horrible movie.
  
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27. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:30 · Score: 0
  
  The Playstation butt-kicking that Big N received was all due to their big egos. Sony got screwed by Nintendo for not wanting to share some of the royality on the SNES CD. Namco got screwed with bigger fees after they saved the NES with their arcade ports. Square got screwed on their royalities for Super Mario RPG. This is why the Playstation was "Powered by Namco" who was kicking ass in the arcades. The N64's only issues were expense and they were late to the party. They held back games for the 64DD which never was released. The Nintendo fans were faithful and so were the mags! Blast Construction game got high marks and I honestly can't play that game.
28. Re:slight correction. by six025 · 2013-09-19 02:31 · Score: 1
  
  Oops, correction: Eternal Darkness was originally planned for the N64 but actually released for the Gamecube.
29. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:39 · Score: 0
  
  The PlayStation, Saturn, N64 or whatever from that generation is far too new for me to view with any nostalgia. That aside, from what I can tell, the people who were adults at the time that they all came out tend to look back to the PlayStation as the best. The people who were kids at the time look back at the N64 as best.
30. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:40 · Score: 0
  
  Will second the issue with Lego City Undercover. Not sure what they were doing that causes the load times to be so long, particularly when you consider that a Lego game would target a demographic with shorter attention spans.
  Unless it's a trick to try and teach them how to wait.
31. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:41 · Score: 0
  
  The "best Zelda evar" was A Link to the Past, but you're probably too young to know that. It's really the last "new" Zelda. Everything after that just felt like graphical improvements and rehashed stories.
  The move to 3D didn't impress me in the least. It just irritated me with bad control schemes. There was a tiny glimmer of hope when Four Swords Adventures came out for the Gamecube, and then they went right back to making ugly, hard-to-control 3D crap again.
  My lawn. Get off it.
32. Re:slight correction. by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:46 · Score: 2
  
  Have you checked out the LttP sequel coming out? It runs on an almost exact replica of LttP's map, but has added some interesting mechanics. No clue about the story though so far.
33. Re:slight correction. by UnknownSoldier · 2013-09-19 03:00 · Score: 1
  
  > As a bittersweet Saturn fan,
  One word: Guardian Heroes.
34. Re:slight correction. by medv4380 · 2013-09-19 03:01 · Score: 2
  
  Load times are there, but usually hidden very well. If you ever watch someone play Metroid Prime 3 on a hacked Wii, and are using a hard drive to load the game you'll notice that they can do things that the Load times with many doors prevents. For example, speed boosting though a long chain of doors.
35. Re:slight correction. by blahplusplus · 2013-09-19 03:08 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  "Yeah, don't get it either. Best Zelda they ever did was on the N64. And Mario 64 kicks ass too. N64 rocks."
  The problem wasn't FIRST PARTY games, the problem was the LACK of games and franchises from the super nintendo and their non-existence on the N64 because of nintendo's bone headed move to stick with cartridges. The storage size of a CD allowed games like Final fantasy 7. JRPG's like FF, Xenogears, Fighting games like street fighter and derivatives totally skipped the N64. THAT IS A HUGE DEAL. Only an idiot that didn't play any third party franchises would say the N64 was wonderful. It was the key event in Nintendo's history that lead to Nintendo's long deflation and decline as a game company with much intelligence.
  They became more about selling console hardware and not enough about supporting game developers. They are a technically illiterate bone headed game company. Why would you not go with DVD standard for the gamecube and make porting games from other platforms a huge chore/time sink for everyone? Another total idiot move. They make totally idiot technological moves every console generation. This is what caused me to stop buying their consoles. They don't grasp game development from a third party developer perspective. Not to mention how bad they screwed up Metroid with Other M and then the huge clusterfuck with the Starfox franchise, SF assault was just a travesty.
  That is why the N64 was the worst decision in Nintendo's history they went from #1 game company with the super nintendo with all the popular franchises and they lost ALL the third parties that were pushing the gaming envelope OVERNIGHT to a brand new competitor with no track record. Nintendo didn't grasp their also ran status because they never took third party developers that make you successful seriously.
  Many of us old timers fondly remember the super nintendo era and we hate what those dumbasses running nintendo did with the N64, the gamecube, and just anti-developer practices in general did to videogaming.
36. Re:slight correction. by CanHasDIY · 2013-09-19 03:24 · Score: 1
  
  I remember wishing for more customization of the racers... Of course, this is before I understood things like system requirements.
  Kids can be so unreasonable sometimes.
  
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37. Re:slight correction. by Golddess · 2013-09-19 03:28 · Score: 1
  
  As someone who played LttP when it first came out on the SNES, I must disagree.
  
  It is close, but the music, for me, pushes OoT ahead.
  
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38. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 03:44 · Score: 0
  
  I'd take back the cartridges...now loading... any day due to the...now loading... long periods of waiting for the...now loading... system to load the game.
39. Re: slight correction. by jeffasselin · 2013-09-19 03:47 · Score: 1
  
  I still consider The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time to be the best video game ever created.
  
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40. Re:slight correction. by coolsnowmen · 2013-09-19 03:54 · Score: 1
  
  one of my favorite games ever
41. Re:slight correction. by danomac · 2013-09-19 03:58 · Score: 1
  
  No kidding, wasted many hours on that one with friends.
  I also remember Conker's Bad Fur Day. Was laughing so hard at that one.
42. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:03 · Score: 0
  
  Go ahead and take back GTA, mass effect, Ace combat and any other game that required a DVD while your'e at it.
43. Re:slight correction. by damnbunni · 2013-09-19 04:12 · Score: 1
  
  Lego City Undercover loads the entire city at one shot. It's a lot of data, but once the city loads there aren't any more loading screens until you leave the city map entirely.
44. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:14 · Score: 0
  
  Required? A lot of those are on PC. Which boot from a Hard Drive or SSD. Which aren't DVDs.
45. Re:slight correction. by damnbunni · 2013-09-19 04:15 · Score: 2
  
  The Playstation controller did not have move/strafe - change view sticks.
  It didn't have any sticks AT ALL.
  It had a D-pad and some buttons. No analog sticks.
  Compared to that, the N64 pad's analog stick was a godsend.
  Sony didn't come out with the Dual Analog controller until after the N64's pad was out.
46. Re:slight correction. by plover · 2013-09-19 04:16 · Score: 0
  
  My guess is the reason those games were so much fun was *you*. You were likely at a carefree age with fewer responsibilities, hanging out with your friends, and all the time in the world. Now you have a job, perhaps a family, and grown-up responsibilities, and don't have the same kinds of leisure time.
  Anything you did back then was fun because you were at a point in your life where you could enjoy it the most.
  
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47. Re:slight correction. by king+neckbeard · 2013-09-19 04:16 · Score: 1
  
  That's not a ridiculous request, but it may have been beyond what was feasible in-game.with the technology of the time.
  
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48. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:20 · Score: 0
  
  FMV beat the N64, not actual games or innovation.
  I remember going to bottom house arcades and a whole bunch of kids would be glued to the PS screen watching a 5min intro to a PS game. There would be a lot or ruckus and cheers inspired by those non-playable FMVs, it drew the crowd. When you actually got to the gameplay section, it was soo much crap, but people would play it just to get to the next FMV. Thats when games became cool, you could actually impress your parents and friends with the well produced FMVs.
  The N64 was revolutionary for PLAYING. Even today, I am still impressed by the water physics of Wave Race. You could swear you are about to get wet from those waves.
  In fact going to Disc based systems were a detriment to gamers, many PS2s were lost to bad lasers. Thats why today they are reverting to getting the games into a more stable solution, the internal harddrive.
49. Re:slight correction. by six025 · 2013-09-19 04:24 · Score: 1
  
  Anything you did back then was fun because you were at a point in your life where you could enjoy it the most.
  No doubt that was a factor, but we had access to Play Station and yet we always returned to the N64 games I mentioned above. ;-)
50. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:32 · Score: 0
  
  The music in Ocarina of Time was crap, especially for its time (compared to anything on the PS1 or PC it was a joke). The little SPC700 in the SNES was far superior to whatever the N64 had.
51. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:38 · Score: 0
  
  "Only an idiot that didn't play any third party franchises would say the N64 was wonderful"
  dont forget the N64 had the best version of san francisco rush, blitz and other games.
  the one thing that sticks out to me when PS1 was around was when walking into a game store, just being assaulted by the vast SHIT PS library thrown on the walls. thousands of games, with most being pure shit.
52. Re:slight correction. by Digital+Vomit · 2013-09-19 04:45 · Score: 2
  
  Hey, listen: I can think of one big reason why OoT was not as good as LttP...
  
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53. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:45 · Score: 0
  
  " A lot of those are on PC"
  Ace combat is not on PC, and then their is the problem where you had to WAIT for ports if they got ported at all for almost a decade. Only really changing aroudn 2007/2008ish. PC got Halo 2 long after it was released, no halo 3 in sight either. Tonnes of other games took their sweet time to get released on PC.
  Sorry buddy but those games that boot from HDD and DVD's were installed over slow ass interent, since you got them pirated or from steam. So at least a 30 mins, to hour plus "loading time" (getting it on your SSD/HDD) before you even start the game.
54. Re:slight correction. by CanHasDIY · 2013-09-19 04:45 · Score: 1
  
  Plus, if I'm not mistaken Podracer came out close to the end of the N64's lifecycle.
  WCW vs NWO has to be my all-time favorite N64 title, and I generally don't like 'rasslin' games.
  
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55. Re:slight correction. by CronoCloud · 2013-09-19 04:59 · Score: 1
  
  Which is why Nintendo (and every other Japanese game developer) needs an American standing right by Miyamoto (and every other Japanese designer) to say "NO!" when they get some crazy hairbrained idea that "Will Not Go Over Well"
  Navi? No!
  Tingle? No!
  Issun's Voice in Okami? No!
  Suda51 in general? No!
  Akitoshi Kawazu in General? NO! BAD! BAD!
56. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:59 · Score: 0
  
  .....those words..they made my blood race before I even finished reading them.
57. Re: slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 05:05 · Score: 0
  
  Wait, really? The *best* ever? You've obviously not played many games.
58. Re:slight correction. by CronoCloud · 2013-09-19 05:08 · Score: 1
  
  There's no way that you could have played all those games to know they were "pure shit", so you're just blowing smoke.
  While perhaps 80 percent of anything is trash, but that VAST PSone library meant that there were a LOT of good games that outnumbered the good ones on the N64. More good games than one could ever play.
  Besides by 1995 even the mediocre games had pretty good production values, enough that even the worst PSone games were more playable than the worst SNES, NES or 2600 games.
  The PC ports alone put the PSone way ahead of the N64, not even throwing in all the RPG's. The PSone even has better character platformers than the N64 does, any of the Spyro games are better games than Mario 64.
59. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 05:17 · Score: 0
  
  That is an idiotic comparison. Hitler ordered his men to kill jews, Nintendo didn't order Mattel to make the Power Glove. Nintendo had NOTHING to do with it. What you are saying is akin to holding Samsung responsible because their Blu-ray players are capable of playing shitty movies.
  Also Godwin, you lose.
60. Re:slight correction. by CronoCloud · 2013-09-19 05:19 · Score: 1
  
  The PSone did have something at launch have the N64 didn't....the PSone mouse. Which is the best way to play FPS games on the PSone if you have it. Surprised they never implemented USB mouse emulation of the PSone mouse on the PS3.
61. Re:slight correction. by VGPowerlord · 2013-09-19 05:24 · Score: 1
  
  The N64 had some downright amazing games, and this is the first time I've seen any real hate/badmouthing for it. It's hard to dislike the console that brought us Mario 64, LoZ: Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask, Banjo Kazooie, Goldeneye 007, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Starfox 64, Mario Kart 64, Perfect Dark, Super Smash Bros, and... well, the list just goes on.
  
  The list goes on? Does it include any titles not by Nintendo or the company it owned 49% of, Rare?
  I mean, I had a Nintendo 64 back in the day, but even I'll admit that the PlayStation had more of what we would refer to today as AAA titles.
  
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62. Re:slight correction. by Meyaht · 2013-09-19 05:24 · Score: 1
  
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63. Re:slight correction. by thetoadwarrior · 2013-09-19 05:33 · Score: 1
  
  On the internet everything has to be a love / hate thing and you have voice your opinion no matter how little people care.
  
  The N64 was an excellent system if only for the experience of Mario 64 and Goldeneye. But fortunately it had many more great games.
64. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 05:37 · Score: 0
  
  But the Virtual Power Glove Boy? Wow...
65. Re:slight correction. by thetoadwarrior · 2013-09-19 05:38 · Score: 2
  
  I don't think FFVII was that good and the series got much worse since then. I think the reason FFVII doesn't get remade nearly as much (if ever) as the FF games is because it doesn't age well at all. It's very much a game of its time. It's far too cinematic. That was cool when it was new but it's a bad thing now.
66. Re:slight correction. by geekoid · 2013-09-19 05:38 · Score: 1
  
  So if I write a crappy application it's MS's fault? interesting.
  
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67. Re:slight correction. by triffid_98 · 2013-09-19 06:01 · Score: 1
  
  The Saturn was a bit more of a disappointment games wise, mostly because its original concept of being a 2D arcade port system was just a bad idea--too many good arcade games were on the Neo-Geo and SNK had is own Neo-Geo CD system while the Playstation got a lot of the good RPGs and action games.
  
  No, the original concept was fine, the problem was that almost none of those games were released outside of Japan, thereby turning the Saturn into an expensive and disappointing paperweight. Radiant Silvergun, Soukyugurentai (Terra Diver), Virtual On, Cotton, Battle Garegga, etc. All fantastic titles, we Americans just never saw them.
68. Re:slight correction. by dristoph · 2013-09-19 06:05 · Score: 1
  
  Yep. I still have friends who play that system almost on the daily. It's mainly a Goldeneye 007 and Mario Kart 64 machine for them, but the tournaments they hold are as intense as ever.
69. Re:slight correction. by TWiTfan · 2013-09-19 06:07 · Score: 1
  
  Godwin is worse than Hitler.
  
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70. Re:slight correction. by TWiTfan · 2013-09-19 06:09 · Score: 2
  
  This is slashdot. Everything is MS's fault.
  
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71. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:15 · Score: 1
  
  Speak for yourself. FF7 would be awesome if remade with a modern game engine. They could even redo all of the FMV as realtime game engine cinematics.
72. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:24 · Score: 0
  
  Have you checked out the LttP sequel coming out? It runs on an almost exact replica of LttP's map, but has added some interesting mechanics. No clue about the story though so far.
  That description could fit 4-swords adventures
73. Re: slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:26 · Score: 0
  
  ROB was its name. Robotic Operating Buddy.
74. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:42 · Score: 0
  
  That is complete BS. There were far more good games on the PlayStation than the N64. I'd also argue that the PS had better game graphics due to the shit textures and low poly counts in N64 games. Take a look at Ace Combat 3, Gran Turismo 2, Colony Wars, Vagrant Story, Alien Resurrection, Spyro the Dragon, Omega Boost, Wipeout 3 or Soul Blade. Every one was a better game and a better looking game than anything on N64.
  Oh and Jet Moto shits all over Wave Race.
75. Re:slight correction. by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 06:54 · Score: 1
  
  Actually that was pretty damn fun too, come to think of it. It just fell short due to the requirement for GBA connections to play multiplayer.
76. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah but PSX has Full Motion Video (oh how I've missed these flamewars)
77. Re:slight correction. by Black+LED · 2013-09-19 07:08 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, but do you have a WLL? No load times at all!
78. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 07:17 · Score: 0
  
  Are you seriously going count install time into the equation? Online download and install is the equivalent of buying a game in a store and bringing it back and putting it into your console. If you're REALLY going to get into the semantics of it, then let's compare:
  HDD
  1.) I submit my credit card information on Steam
  2.) I download on slow ass internet
  3.) I "load" for an hour (AKA install)
  DVD
  1.) Give your money to a clerk at a register
  2.) Leave the store
  3.) Travel back to your location of console
  4.) Open your packaging for your DVD
  5.) Insert your disk
  6.) Load times throughout the game
  Cartridge
  1.) Give your money to a clerk at a register
  2.) Leave the store
  3.) Travel back to your location of console
  4.) Open your packaging for your cartridge
  5.) Insert your cartridge
  6.) Minimal load times throughout the game
  I'll grant you that there are console games not on PC and not all ports are good.
  But what was the original point of discussion anyway?
  The GGGP wanted to choose cartridges over DVDs to not deal with loading times
  The GGP posted that not having DVDs would mean that you'd lose access to GTA, Mass Effect, Ace Combat, and any other game that uses DVDs.
  The GP posted that it's disingenuous to claim that all those games are not DVD exclusive and can boot from a HD or SSD, so GGGP does not have to give up every single one.
79. Re:slight correction. by Psyborgue · 2013-09-19 07:27 · Score: 1
  
  Supposedly Wind Waker HD is going to load the whole world-map into memory. I hope it's either not a lot of data (most of it is ocean) or is loaded piece by piece. Otherwise there is gonna be a problem. I'll get it in either case, but it would be a shame if it was slower than the GC version.
80. Re:slight correction. by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 07:34 · Score: 1
  
  Console war.
  
  Console war never changes.
81. Re:slight correction. by khellendros1984 · 2013-09-19 08:17 · Score: 1
  
  Only an idiot that didn't play any third party franchises would say the N64 was wonderful.
  Or a kid that was having too much fun with the system and games that they had to care that someone else was having fun with different games on a different system. Only an idiot fanboy asshole would begrudge someone else their opinion of a wonderful console.
  
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82. Re:slight correction. by Golddess · 2013-09-19 08:34 · Score: 1
  
  Reusing the same sprites and other art assets != reusing maps.
  
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83. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 08:49 · Score: 0
  
  Fred Savage FFS
84. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 08:53 · Score: 0
  
  Dont take it personal, the N64 is known as the console that entered gaming into 3D.
  Does anyone cite Jet Moto as a gaming landmark. No.
  The PS entered us into the era of jiggly boobs, and waiting 5 mins for doors to open. (Those games are DOA and Resident Evil FYI)
  Mario 64: Landmark
  OOT: Landmark
  Golden Eye: Landmark
  Majora's Mask
  Wave Race
  Mario Kart
  Banjo Kazooie
  Jet Force Gemini
  Star Fox 64
  Turok
  Perfect Dark
  Killer Instinct Gold
  + the N64 introduced REAL innovation in the industry:
  Analog Controller
  4 Player Gaming
  Z-Targeting (which a lot of PS games could have used, I used to remember how odd it looked getting Resident Evil characters pointed in the right direction to shoot)
85. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 10:03 · Score: 1
  
  "Only an idiot that didn't play any third party franchises would say the N64 was wonderful."
  Only a total moron would judge a system by the bad games that were on it, instead of the good ones. Regardless of whether those games were third or first party.
  Although honestly? Some of my favorite games on the system were third party, such as Turok, Star Wars Rogue Squadron, Star Wars Ep1 racer, or Doom 64 (completely original and exclusive game for those that don't know, and IMO the best Doom ever). Just off the top of my head. Who cares about ports? Back then exclusives were much more prevalent anyway, multiplatform ports were a minority.
  Anyway. Screw doing the same thing as everyone else, seriously. Other companies are always thinking "what can we do that's the same but better?" but Nintendo is the only one who's constantly thinking "what can we do that's different?" Even though it doesn't always work out, when it does, they revolutionize and everyone else follows their lead, as we've seen time and time again.
  And thank god for that. Thank god for Nintendo not making it their life's mission to simply outdo everyone else at their own game. And screw every drooling asshole who's always bashing Nintendo for it.
86. Re:slight correction. by damnbunni · 2013-09-19 10:19 · Score: 1
  
  Not much seemed to support the mouse. I picked up the mouse much later, when it was very cheap, and the only game I had that worked with it was Discworld.
  Alas, I had the initial release of Discworld. Which had a bug: You couldn't save the game. At all. How in hell did THAT ever get past QA?
87. Re:slight correction. by CronoCloud · 2013-09-19 11:19 · Score: 1
  
  Wait, there was a PSone Discworld game? Well, I'll be....
  My condolences on the save game bug.
88. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 11:41 · Score: 0
  
  any of the Spyro games are better games than Mario 64
  Spyro was great and all but you gotta be kidding me.
89. Re:slight correction. by justthinkit · 2013-09-19 13:22 · Score: 1
  
  This is one of the men to whom I owe a large part of my childhood, and can blame part of my adulthood on as well.
  .
  I'm saving that sentiment for when Hef passes.
  
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90. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 13:32 · Score: 0
  
  Load times in the games aren't bad, but interestingly load times in the operating system itself are dismal; it takes a very long time to do anything interesting. It's kind of weird, actually.
91. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 15:20 · Score: 0
  
  Everyone of the games you listed looks like shit. Low resolution, blurry, overly repeating textures and low poly models. And who cites "Wave Race" as a landmark? Nobody. Hell, most people have never even heard of it.
  
  The PlayStation had much better, more realistic looking visuals and more fun games. Everybody who was a gamer in the 90s played Jet Moto.
92. Re:slight correction. by CronoCloud · 2013-09-19 17:00 · Score: 1
  
  I am not, Spyro controls better, has a better camera, has better music, better graphics, and plays better than Mario 64. Mario 64 has some of those Miyamoto quirks that may sound good at first glance, but don't work well in practice. And it has the usual discoverability issues Miyamoto games have. It's a good game, but it's no Spyro.
  And unlike Mario 64 there were two more PSone Spyro's with additional gameplay features and improvements.
  Course the PS2 Spyro games aren't as good, but there's Insomniac's Ratchet & Clank games for that.
93. Re:slight correction. by Sockatume · 2013-09-19 20:07 · Score: 1
  
  FF7 was a perfectly sound spin on FF6's style and mechanics. That FFX - one of the most cinematic and dull instalments - is being remade rather undermines your argument.
  
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94. Re:slight correction. by aiadot · 2013-09-19 20:14 · Score: 1
  
  I respectfully disagree. While I'm a Playstation fanboy myself, I'm always looking to play the 2D Zeldas(Link to the past, Oracle of Time/Season and Link's Awakening). I'm buying a 3DS exclusively for the LttP sequel it's getting. That is how good I consider them. The 3D zeldas(and marios BTW) just bore the crap out of me. I understand why some people like and I respect that but I can't help but to find the 3D titles over-rated.
  Yamauchi-san: good night sweet prince. Thanks to YOU playstation exists today. My childhood will be forever in debt.
95. Re:slight correction. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 23:09 · Score: 0
  
  Goldeneye was the apex of FPS gaming on a console
  Goldeneye was complete rubbish and so are FPS games on consoles. I always laughed at the morons wowing over Goldeneye's shitty gameplay and graphics, because I was playing Quake II and Unreal around the same time.
96. Re:slight correction. by drsquare · 2013-09-21 05:45 · Score: 1
  
  The problem is that by the 90s, no-one in the West gave a fuck about Japanese arcade games. It was all about Tomb Raider, GTA, Gran Turismo etc.
97. Re:slight correction. by RyoShin · 2013-09-23 06:44 · Score: 1
  
  Another large reason companies dropped Nintendo--and one that seems not well known--is that early on Nintendo had a requirement that if you wanted to develop for the N64 you also had to develop for the Virtual Boy. (Obviously this requirement dropped when the Virtual Boy was, but that didn't fix the lack of space and now-sour taste.)
  Can't find the source to back this up ATM, but I did a report on this in college (I think it was a "choose your own history topic" in a writing class or something) and this was part of Nintendo's downfall with the N64. Their stranglehold on third parties made it exceedingly easy when Sony approached them with this new-fangled console they were going to put out called the "Playstation"... which, haha!, was the result of a failed partnership with Nintendo.
  I will be forever amused that Nintendo's shortsightedness is what gave rise to their largest competitor and own downfall. (Nintendo stopped working with Sony and worked with Phillips instead--Sony didn't know this until it was announced publicly--before dropping their partnership with Phillips as well. But, hey, that agreement led to the CD-i Zelda games...)
Very intuitive by HalAtWork · 2013-09-19 00:56 · Score: 3, Interesting

This guy had a lot of intuition. He didn't like to play video games, tried a couple but was annoyed and frustrated. Yet he still had sole approval whether or not a game should be licensed on the Famicom/NES. Someone would sit down and demo the game and he'd say yes or no based on that! Coming from the Atari crash, quality was important and this guy had an eye for that. Not to take away from Yamauchi but I must say RIP Gunpei Yokoi who sadly committed suicide, but was incredibly important in Nintendo's success as well. I recommend reading Game Over and 1UP - How Video Games got an Extra Life.

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1. Re:Very intuitive by RicardoGCE · 2013-09-19 01:14 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Gunpei Yokoi was hit by a car, he didn't kill himself, nor was he murdered (the other urban legend regarding his passing.)
2. Re:Very intuitive by FilmedInNoir · 2013-09-19 01:28 · Score: 1
  
  Taking back that mod point... bad computer Hal, bad computer!
  
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3. Re:Very intuitive by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:53 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Gunpei Yokoi had a "window seat" by that time, due to the failure of the Virtual Boy.
  For those that don't know what a "window seat" is, it's what the Japanese do with older, well-respected company men who fuck up a major project and lose the company money. They're grateful for the good times, respectful of experience, and not about to let another project go down the drain. So instead of firing the manager of the failed project, they give him a nice office somewhere away from where real work is being done, and where he can't fail again. A "window seat".
  Gunpei Yokoi had a good string of successes: the "grabber" toy he was first promoted to management for, several game projects, including Metroid and Kid Icarus, and the Game Boy. Then he had the Virtual Boy. Then he had a "window seat".
  His death was unfortunate, though. "Window seats" aren't always permanent, and I'm sure within a short time he would've probably gotten another chance at a big project, or maybe come up with something new. Instead, he was killed by a bus while changing a flat tire on the side of the road. There's no telling what cool stuff we lost that day.
4. Re:Very intuitive by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 03:25 · Score: 2
  
  Actually, he quit Nintendo a year before he died, after the Virtual Boy (supposedly he had already planned his retirement), to form his own company, and developed another portable game machine for Bandai. He wasn't killed by a bus changing a tire, he was hit by another car while inspecting the damages from an accident.
5. Re:Very intuitive by HalAtWork · 2013-09-19 04:41 · Score: 1
  
  Nobody's sure either way actually, so I guess it depends on what you believe. He might have voluntarily stepped into traffic, or it could have been an accident. There are a lot of emotional stories surrounding the subject. My point was just to remember the greats.
  
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6. Re:Very intuitive by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:48 · Score: 0
  
  Coming from the Atari crash, quality was important and this guy had an eye for that
  That's fucking rich considering how many shit games were on the NES and the fact that anybody, including LJN, could get the "Seal of Quality" on their games simply by paying licensing dues. Tengen famously didn't want to let Nintendo rip them off any more and started publishing unlicensed games, which invariably were better than most of the crap that had Nintendo's "approval".
  Also, since you didn't even know how Gunpei Yokoi died, everything in your post is suspect.
7. Re:Very intuitive by drsquare · 2013-09-21 06:35 · Score: 1
  
  Plenty of shitty shovelware on the NES. He didn't care if there were shit games on Nintendo consoles, as long as the third-party developers kowtowed. That attitude is what took Nintendo from market leaders to a very distant second as the TPDs went to Playstation and told Nintendo to go fuck themselves. And they've been telling Nintendo to go fuck themselves ever since.
  That attitude from Yamauchi is what made the N64 a failure, what made the Gamecube an even bigger failure, and what's making the Wii U and even bigger failure still. Overnight, Nintendo went from being the kings of home gaming, to total obscurity (unless you think the Wii was anything other than a Billy Bass Fish moment).
  They get away with it on handhelds, because the DS is like the NES: no real competition. If someone makes a console that does for handhelds what the Playstation did for the N64, then Nintendo are finished there, too. Then they'll be reduced to releasing Zelda and Mario clones for other companies' systems, and they can get used to being treated as Nintendo themselves treated TPDs back in the 80s.
game over man by Vernes · 2013-09-19 00:56 · Score: 1

game over
Condolences. by NoImNotNineVolt · 2013-09-19 00:58 · Score: 1

My heart goes out to his friends and family.
The world will miss Hiroshi, and I'm concerned that this might be enough for Shigeru Miyamoto to leave the company.
This is a truly sad day.

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1. Re:Condolences. by timeOday · 2013-09-19 06:05 · Score: 2
  
  I would love to have heard his reflections on life - a boy in Imperial Japan, then utter destruction and a cultural and economic 180, followed by a leading role in a superstar company in the rise of Japan as an electronics manufacturing superpower, and finally backslide as regional competitors rapidly gain ground. He saw so much.
2. Re:Condolences. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 09:03 · Score: 0
  
  Why would Miyamoto leave? What a sad day, when MS shills disguise FUD posts in a condolences post.
But he gets two more lives, right? by TWiTfan · 2013-09-19 00:59 · Score: 4, Funny

Too soon?

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1. Re:But he gets two more lives, right? by Dan+East · 2013-09-19 03:00 · Score: 1
  
  Perhaps more, depending on how many magic mushrooms he enjoyed.
  
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Game Over by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:01 · Score: 0

Apparently 10,000,000 score points popped up
Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:04 · Score: 0

You missed "Nintendeo" as well
Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:04 · Score: 0

"comapany" should be "company"
That's how it's pronounced, you insensitive clod!
Cheats! by Stenchwarrior · 2013-09-19 01:11 · Score: 2, Funny

Before someone else posts it:
He clearly should have used the UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START to pick up a few more lives.
ba dum, bum

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1. Re:Cheats! by PseudoCoder · 2013-09-19 01:15 · Score: 2
  
  Before someone else posts it:
  He clearly should have used the UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START to pick up a few more lives.
  ba dum, bum
  If it had been the President of Konami then maybe that would work. Yamauchi stays put; for now.
  
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2. Re:Cheats! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:27 · Score: 0
  
  He clearly should have used the UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START to pick up a few more lives.
  That's wrong command.
  He should have used
  UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, L, R, L, R, B, A START
  instead.
3. Re:Cheats! by Golddess · 2013-09-19 01:37 · Score: 1
  
  If it had been the President of Konami then maybe that would work.
  But what he could have done instead, is he could have smashed a few more turtles when he was 31. ;)
  
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4. Re:Cheats! by Stenchwarrior · 2013-09-19 01:40 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe you're trolling, but I'm pretty sure that's what I said.
  
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5. Re:Cheats! by Stenchwarrior · 2013-09-19 01:42 · Score: 1
  
  Sheldon Cooper, is that you? I'm to get into a geek-argument here...was a fucking joke
  
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6. Re:Cheats! by Stenchwarrior · 2013-09-19 01:43 · Score: 1
  
  *not looking to
  
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7. Re:Cheats! by RivenAleem · 2013-09-19 01:53 · Score: 1
  
  No, As the influx of coins drained off, so too did the extra lives.
8. Re:Cheats! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:54 · Score: 0
  
  He's referring to this.
9. Re:Cheats! by Golddess · 2013-09-19 02:04 · Score: 1
  
  was a fucking joke
  Yes.. as was mine. Super Mario Bros, World 3-1, turtle stomping just before the flag for extra lives.
  
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10. Re:Cheats! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:27 · Score: 0
  
  Ahh yes. :) Sorry about that. I was not paying attention properly (I am extremely tired).
11. Re:Cheats! by Stenchwarrior · 2013-09-19 02:37 · Score: 1
  
  I actually meant to reply to a different guy. Sorry about that. Yours was funny...
  I'm going to get off Slashdot until I have a bit more coffee
  
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12. Re:Cheats! by Known+Nutter · 2013-09-19 03:36 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Every time someone posts the Konami code, you can tell whether they played alone or with a friend. Those with a buddy have SELECT in their head before START...
  
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13. Re:Cheats! by CastrTroy · 2013-09-19 04:56 · Score: 1
  
  When I was a kid, we thought the code was:
  
  Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A (Select), Start
  
  Notice the two sets of B A. It seemed to make more sense. Everything else was in pairs.
  
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14. Re:Cheats! by Black+LED · 2013-09-19 06:57 · Score: 1
  
  That's for Gradius III I believe, where you use the shoulder buttons instead of pressing left and right. If you used the old code in that game, your ship blows up.
15. Re:Cheats! by bi$hop · 2013-09-19 09:57 · Score: 1
  
  Or he could have disrobed himself and started with 255 missiles by entering JUSTIN BAILEY for the password.
16. Re:Cheats! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 23:15 · Score: 0
  
  Who or what the fuck is "Sheldon Cooper"?
Hold A and press Start by tepples · 2013-09-19 01:16 · Score: 2

That's Konami. This is Nintendo. Hold A and press Start to continue from where you were with a new set of lives.
1. Re:Hold A and press Start by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:35 · Score: 0
  
  I would argue that the game is over because in won. In that case...
  "Press button B to select a world."
Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:18 · Score: 0

Just another example of "Editor Fail".
/. summaries are a constant stream of beta products waiting for the us to debug (and sometimes debunk).
The Power Glove is unforgettable by PseudoCoder · 2013-09-19 01:18 · Score: 2

If you *really* want something to forget, the Virtual Boy and Power Glove are much better candidates.
The Power Glove is unforgettable. My steady stream of curse words (like when it didn't punch when/how I wanted in Punch Out) is still resonating all over the universe like the Big Bang.

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one of his first ventures was a "love hotel" by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:20 · Score: 1

rooms rented by the hour
sounds kinda like a whore house to me
LMAO
1. Re:one of his first ventures was a "love hotel" by Chrisq · 2013-09-19 01:52 · Score: 1
  
  rooms rented by the hour
  sounds kinda like a whore house to me LMAO
  I don't get it ... why so long?
2. Re:one of his first ventures was a "love hotel" by CanHasDIY · 2013-09-19 02:09 · Score: 1
  
  rooms rented by the hour
  sounds kinda like a whore house to me
  LMAO
  I don't get it ... why so long?
  Proper lubrication requires a bit of prep time.
  
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3. Re:one of his first ventures was a "love hotel" by king+neckbeard · 2013-09-19 02:15 · Score: 1
  
  Love hotels are quite different. The closest US equivalent would be a 'no-tell motel,' but love hotels don't have quite the same vibe.
  
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Maybe now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:35 · Score: 0

Maybe now they'll develop a console not designed for children and grandparents and stop making kid games with bright colors.
1. Re:Maybe now... by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:42 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe now they'll develop a console not designed for children and grandparents and stop making kid games with bright colors.
  ...yes, because real is brown.
2. Re:Maybe now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:49 · Score: 0
  
  Why?
  Developing for children seems like a solid business plan. Sony and Microsoft are not (primarily) targeting that Market segment, it would be underservered, if not completely deserted, if Nintendo decided to leave it.
  In fact, Sony and Microsoft have a lot to thank Nintendo for. The generation of players that made the original PS with Crash Bandicoot and Lara Croft so successful is the same generation that years before was playing Super Mario Bros. on their NES, only they'd grown up a bit by then.
  A colleague of mine did a study (unpublished) on the subject and he analyzed the different age ranges targeted by the (then current) gamecube, original xbox, PS and PS2, and even the sega dreamcast. Granted, there was some overlap in these ranges, but it was quite clear where each of the manufacturers was focused. I'm sure this influenced his own decision on what to buy his 6yo son.
  Now, in regards to grandparents. I'm not sure, but I think that might even be an unexpected (yet welcome) consequence of the ease and low barriers of entry that was designed into the Wii, and from there on after. We had never seen that as predominantly in earlier generation consoles.
  anyway, my $0.02
3. Re:Maybe now... by mu51c10rd · 2013-09-19 07:56 · Score: 1
  
  Super Mario Bros...you kids....some of us cut our teeth on Joust and Frogger for the Atari 2600...
4. Re:Maybe now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-20 02:27 · Score: 0
  
  Alright, but...
  The Atari 2600 came out in 1977 and was the most popular game console at the time, as far as I just looked it up on the wikipedia. But then came the 1983 crash and the home-console video game industry would not recover until some years later, largely to the success of the NES (with Super Mario Bros. and other titles) which would pave the way for modern consoles.
  If the NES had not been the huge success it was, most of us would not have played [insert list of awesome games here] and then wouldn't have moved on to the Playstation XBox "grown-up" games of Today. I'm willing to accept that if it hadn't been the NES, it could have been some other console at around the same time or even a few years later; but that's not what happened.
  Mind you, I'm not knocking the Atari 2600. I was only on my first year of life when it came out and didn't get to play it until some years later, and had fun doing it. But it wasn't my first contact with video games, it was my dad's Magnavox Odyssey II which was, also, a pre-crash console...but it was stolen in '86 and we didn't get another console at home until the NES in '89. I also played on my cousin's Intellivision, and some friends had a Sega Genesis (Sonic!), and so on; but those didn't have as big an impact as NES ---> PS.
  [My list of games, in no particular order]: Super Mario Bros 1 and 3 (2 not so much), Contra, Super C, Crystalis, Castlevania 3, Bionic Comando, Ninja Gaiden, Ice Hockey, Legend of Zelda 2, Mega Man 2, RC ProAm, TMNT, Double Dragon, Excitebike...that's the best my brain at do on a friday afternoon.
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Sockatume · 2013-09-19 01:36 · Score: 1

The leadership at Nintendo really won't commit to gaming? Because they're throwing so much money into making potatoes, and automobiles right now?

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Handhelds? by barlevg · 2013-09-19 01:39 · Score: 1, Interesting

Article mentions the TV consoles, but isn't the Game Boy far more relevant? I mean, we're talking about the birth of handheld game consoles (and yes, I know there were handheld video games before the Gameboy, but that's like pointing out that there were smart phones before the iPhone).
1. Re:Handhelds? by RaceProUK · 2013-09-19 01:48 · Score: 1
  
  The NES predates it by about 4 or 5 years, and was largely responsible for the recovery after the '83 crash. In fact, without the success of the NES, there may have never been a Game Boy.
  
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hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:42 · Score: 0

they get less and less innovative with every gen. i like super mario as much as the next guy but i'm not buying a whole fucking console just to play it.
1. Re:hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 01:48 · Score: 1
  
  innovative = high performance GPUs and always-on internet DRM
2. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:05 · Score: 0
  
  Duh! Who needs stuff like motion sensitive gyroscopic controls or a secondary touchpad screen when you can pull a few more FPS on Maden MMXIIIII or the latest shooter brah?
3. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:13 · Score: 0
  
  gimmick controllers != innovation
4. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by king+neckbeard · 2013-09-19 02:37 · Score: 1
  
  Then please tell me what innovation you have seen from other consoles,
  
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5. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:44 · Score: 1
  
  Well, let's see... Oh! The X-box has this camera thing that you can control with your motion. Oh, and the Playstation 3 has had two different controllers now that you could control by moving around too!
  
  ...hey, wait a second...
6. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:50 · Score: 0
  
  Nintendo is still selling the same games i got for Christmas as a kid 30 years ago...try actually making some new games instead of milking people's nostalgia.
7. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 03:05 · Score: 1
  
  Huh, you mean like Warioware, Eternal Darkness, Golden Sun, Pikmin, Xenoblade, Wii sports, Luigi's Mansion, Baten Kaitos, and more?
8. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by king+neckbeard · 2013-09-19 03:10 · Score: 1
  
  So, you mean that because they have long running franchises still making up a decent portion of their catalog, they aren't innovative, regardless of the other newer titles they have?
  
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9. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by VGPowerlord · 2013-09-19 05:52 · Score: 1
  
  Eternal Darkness, Golden Sun, Xenoblade, and Baten Kaitos are all non-Nintendo titles. They were developed by Silicon Knights, Camelot, Monolith Soft, and tri-Crescendo/Monolith Soft respectively. You really need to stop confusing games published by Nintendo with games produced by Nintendo.
  Heck, Baten Kaitos wasn't even published by Nintendo anywhere but Australia... Namco published it everywhere else.
  Of the remaining ones, only one of them is less than a decade old (Wii Sports).
  
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10. Re: hopefully now nintendo can stop sucking by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 06:39 · Score: 2
  
  Let's see...
  
  Silicon Knights: Point. I'll give you that one.
  
  Camelot: Their parent company is Nintendo, who took them from Sega back in 1999. They've programmed exclusively for Nintendo and are even the creators of Waluigi. Thankfully, since they made the Golden Sun series, I can forgive them for that. Link.
  
  Monolith Soft: Monolith Soft was formerly owned by Namco, who sold all 96% of their shares to Nintendo, meaning Monolith Soft is wholly owned by Nintendo and thus for all intents and purposes considered first-party. Link.
  
  Tri-Crescendo: Their developed titles are almost exclusively Nintendo, though you have somewhat of a point since they've done work for other consoles.
  
  Are you going to tell me that Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong Country returns aren't first party because they were developed by Nintendo's Retro studios? As far as I'm concerned if Nintendo owns the studio, it's first party. Beyond that, the original poster suggested that they hadn't done anything new in the past 30 or so years- which is an obvious falsehood since 30 years ago is when the original Mario Bros came out in the arcade. So, unless the poster was receiving arcade cabinets for Christmas...
  
  Not to mention of course all the innovation done within its more well known titles, even if the stories themselves are often "rehashes", they've kept the gameplay fresh.
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 01:47 · Score: 3, Funny

Ugh, Nintendo Potatoes are so casual.
Blow on him? by yorgo · 2013-09-19 02:11 · Score: 5, Funny

Did anyone try blowing on him?
1. Re:Blow on him? by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:24 · Score: 1
  
  Damnit man I didn't want to laugh at this but I did.
2. Re:Blow on him? by jones_supa · 2013-09-19 02:30 · Score: 1
  
  This. A good blowjob usually gets the Nintendo stuff working.
3. Re:Blow on him? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:34 · Score: 0
  
  The only good and relevant joke :)
  RIP Yamauchi.
4. Re:Blow on him? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:54 · Score: 0
  
  If only I wasn't AC and had mod points...
5. Re:Blow on him? by steelfood · 2013-09-19 06:40 · Score: 1
  
  Considering this is all happening in Japan, the answer is likely yes.
  
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Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:13 · Score: 0

They can't even generate 1.1 volts.
In all seriousness, Nintendo has done the best at preserving franchises and keeping them interesting. Mario Galaxy was a blast. Metroid Primes and Other M (story aside) were great games. Zelda games are trying out new things and haven't hit a sweet spot yet, but they are enjoyable in their own right with fun bosses. Smash Bros. covers a good area of competitive gaming as well. Starfox is a troubled series though, that is likely why there haven't been any note worthy developments for it. Starfox Adventures was suppose to be another game before they plopped Fox into it. If Lucas Arts was around, they would make a better Starfox reboot. Can likely hire the staff that made Rogue Squadron now.
Zelda doesn't need to be Darksiders. It needs a more open world for exploration like Wind Waker. I would like it to take a page or two from Monster Hunter for combat, but that is not going to happen.
Nintendo is secure in the first party. People love their games. What they need to do is secure and bring in some more diverse third parties. They did that with Rare, and they have a solid gripe on the Bayonetta staff and Monolithsoft. They are not doing badly, but their products haven't had time to get to market. Their hardware was just ready too soon (not for monster hunter fans, but for the "general" audience - they aren't hardcore enough for MH).
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:17 · Score: 1

If a Starfox reboot had been done by the Saints row team and not farmed out to a crap jap developer like namco it would be ten times the game Starfox assault ended up being.
I was going to write a full reply to you until I saw this line. Just... wow, man.
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Aerokii · 2013-09-19 02:22 · Score: 1

True words indeed. I think a bit of a mis-step was made with the Wii U, releasing it essentially gameless, but I feel like the same thing happened with the DS and 3DS as well, both of which turned out fantastically (though, of course, those are handhelds and this isn't.)

Nintendo's first party titles are completely secure, and even the supposed "rehashes" are good enough for me to come back and want to play again several times (Hopping on Windwaker HD tomorrow, and looking forward to it!) Plus with Monolithsoft... well, I'd buy a Wii U just to play "X" alone, if it's anything like Xenoblade was. Simply incredible.
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Sockatume · 2013-09-19 02:38 · Score: 1

They're not doing *good* games but you could hardly argue that they aren't focussed on them. It's literally all they do. It's all they expend their resources on.

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Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 02:39 · Score: 0

Is this a joke? :>
Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Sockatume · 2013-09-19 02:41 · Score: 1

(Not doing good games is a heck of an overstatement, but let's assume it for the sake of argument.)

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No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
quick! by bitt3n · 2013-09-19 03:05 · Score: 1

someone insert another quarter before his ten seconds run out

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Motion combat/RPGs (Re:Nintendo surviving ...) by WillAdams · 2013-09-19 03:18 · Score: 1

Actually, I thought the combat in Skyward Sword was perfect --- I'd give my interest in hell to have a motion-controlled RPG and was quite disappointed that none of the Operation Rainfall games used motion controls beyond Pandora's Towers use of IR pointing and swinging and pulling the chain (which switched between the Nunchuk and the Wii Remote if memory serves).
Ideal game:
- motion controls from Skyward Sword / Red Steel 2
- huge explorable overworld from Xenoblade Chronicles
- on-line interaction and lovely fluid anti-aliased on-screen appearance from The Last Story
- an option or alternate gameplay mode for precise IR pointing as used in Goldeneye / Pandora's Tower
and an extensible, on-going story provided as downloadable content.
William

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Re:Nintendo surviving on fumes... by Talderas · 2013-09-19 03:26 · Score: 1

How are you doing? Becaues I'm a potato.

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Good by nurb432 · 2013-09-19 03:36 · Score: 1

Anyone associated with that company should have been in prison for crooked business practices that illegally destroyed Atari.

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1. Re:Good by StoneyMahoney · 2013-09-19 03:50 · Score: 1
  
  Atari had it's own crooked business practices to blame it's implosion on. Doesn't stop me wearing an Atari logo t-shirt though... shame it's repro, not vintage :(
2. Re:Good by geekoid · 2013-09-19 05:47 · Score: 1
  
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Re:Typo by SleazyRidr · 2013-09-19 04:10 · Score: 1

No. This is SPARTA!

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Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 04:30 · Score: 0

NO. THIS IS PATRICK!
Farewell Mr. Yamauchi by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2013-09-19 05:48 · Score: 1

The Nintendo that Mr. Yamauchi built has has such a entertaining and positive influence on my life that I just couldn't let this story go by without saying: Thank, farewell, and your legacy lives on.

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Farewell Yamauchi-san by brunokummel · 2013-09-19 06:29 · Score: 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Furs535ly94

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Re:Hey big mouth... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 06:54 · Score: 0

It's a shame you didn't die instead of Hiroshi Yamauchi.
Too bad by SuiteSisterMary · 2013-09-19 08:35 · Score: 1

I guess I wasn't a bad enough dude to save the President.
I think I'll go read Game Over (Press Start to Continue) again.

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Re:Nintendo died last year... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-09-19 19:01 · Score: 0

Yeah, RIP
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