I found an example. One of the them is comment #46185253. You can still see it here if you go to it manually. But if you go to the actual article, it's gone. It was under the top "Why?" thread. But now it's gone from the comments when you look at them in the article.
Quite a bit of constructive criticism has been offered (not just in the last two days, but for months now). The exact complaints are pretty damned clear at this point. The problem isn't that they aren't aware of the problems with the beta. The problem is that they've not been corrected, and now they're going to force the beta on us.
I personally don't care about the beta, as long as we can keep the Classic option. But if you're going to force it on me, at least make sure that you're not stripping functionality away from me. Add whatever dumb feature you like (as long as it doesn't get in my way), but don't take away my ability to see a simple comment list with replies and mods listed. Quite a few others have also complained about the lack of Unicode support, the annoying whitespace issues, and onerous javascript.
You can't. The comment list is suddenly broken now too. I can only look at about the last 20 or so posts (the list end abruptly and there is no longer an option to go to the next page). But I looked back through the articles from this morning and can tell you that several of my posts that I know were there are suddenly gone.
The comment listing is broken now too (only shows one page, with no "Next" option). And it looks like the editors are trying to delete posts and downmod all the beta posters. Guess they found the time to do all that in between listening to us and changing the beta based on our valued input.
They're also actually deleting posts now too. Quite a few of mine have disappeared. Amazing that they have time for this, what with all the effort they're putting into listening to us and modifying the beta accordingly.
The fast majority of the F*ck Beta comments are coming from ACs. For all we know that could be a single individual or even a bot.
No, actually, I've been surprised by the number of real posts here against the beta, some of them with some incredibly low UID's. Much as I hate the beta, even I never expected such an overwhelming response (and, believe me, I've been around here a lot longer than my UID would indicate).
You know, it's amazing that they have time to downmod all these beta threads, while frantically listening to us (the audience) and working to implement our valued suggestions all at the same time. Dice employees are such incredible multi-taskers.
Exactly. I have tried the beta out for months (checking it out from time to time) and I haven't noticed a single significant change since they put it up.
So tell us, Soulskill, what were those changes you referenced?
That's my biggest complaint. And all this BS about "We have to have our engineers work on it" is a joke. It's ALREADY AVAILABLE IN CLASSIC!! It's not something that requires a lot of work to implement, because the functionally is ALREADY THERE! They clearly made a conscious decision to remove it and now, despite months of complaints about it, still absolutely refuse to put this functionality back in the beta version.
We're just passive viewers to Dice. "To you, the lucky receivers of Dice's glorious semen, we dedicate this wonderful new beta site. It is our gift to you, the unwashed masses!"
The funny thing is that for all this talk about "We're going to make changes based on your input" horseshit, I would almost be willing to bet that they hired a contractor to do the redesign and that he's already fulfilled his contract and left. I bet that they don't even have the capacity to change the design significantly at this point without hiring a new contractor to do it.
You know what *I* find funny? The fact that Timothy has all this time to downmod ever beta post and up-mod everyone else. I thought he spent every minute of every hour of every day listening to us and our input, working our ways to implement our valued suggestions.
Looks like Timothy is modding all beta posts "0, Offtopic." I wonder how he finds the time, what with all that effort he's putting into listening to our concerns.
And I'm sure it wasn't Timothy who modded this thread "0 off-topic." No, he's far too busy listening to us and implementing our suggestions to have time to do downmods.
Well I guess on the bright side when Digg did that, their infrastructure costs could have gone way down as they lost most of their users and layed off 37% of their staff.
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I hope you're right. But I sure didn't see it before. I even did a search, expanded out every sub-thread--nothing.
You can't even see it if you expand out the "Why?" thread all the way. Here.
I found an example. One of the them is comment #46185253. You can still see it here if you go to it manually. But if you go to the actual article, it's gone. It was under the top "Why?" thread. But now it's gone from the comments when you look at them in the article.
That's a good idea.
Quite a bit of constructive criticism has been offered (not just in the last two days, but for months now). The exact complaints are pretty damned clear at this point. The problem isn't that they aren't aware of the problems with the beta. The problem is that they've not been corrected, and now they're going to force the beta on us.
I personally don't care about the beta, as long as we can keep the Classic option. But if you're going to force it on me, at least make sure that you're not stripping functionality away from me. Add whatever dumb feature you like (as long as it doesn't get in my way), but don't take away my ability to see a simple comment list with replies and mods listed. Quite a few others have also complained about the lack of Unicode support, the annoying whitespace issues, and onerous javascript.
You can't. The comment list is suddenly broken now too. I can only look at about the last 20 or so posts (the list end abruptly and there is no longer an option to go to the next page). But I looked back through the articles from this morning and can tell you that several of my posts that I know were there are suddenly gone.
The comment listing is broken now too (only shows one page, with no "Next" option). And it looks like the editors are trying to delete posts and downmod all the beta posters. Guess they found the time to do all that in between listening to us and changing the beta based on our valued input.
No, but Timothy has PROMISED that they'll listen to us, the audience, and CONSIDER our recommendations. Honest injun. Pinkie swear!
They're also actually deleting posts now too. Quite a few of mine have disappeared. Amazing that they have time for this, what with all the effort they're putting into listening to us and modifying the beta accordingly.
Maybe Taco could buy if back on the cheap.
The fast majority of the F*ck Beta comments are coming from ACs. For all we know that could be a single individual or even a bot.
No, actually, I've been surprised by the number of real posts here against the beta, some of them with some incredibly low UID's. Much as I hate the beta, even I never expected such an overwhelming response (and, believe me, I've been around here a lot longer than my UID would indicate).
Beta makes Taco cry.
You know, it's amazing that they have time to downmod all these beta threads, while frantically listening to us (the audience) and working to implement our valued suggestions all at the same time. Dice employees are such incredible multi-taskers.
Exactly. I have tried the beta out for months (checking it out from time to time) and I haven't noticed a single significant change since they put it up.
So tell us, Soulskill, what were those changes you referenced?
[crickets]
That's my biggest complaint. And all this BS about "We have to have our engineers work on it" is a joke. It's ALREADY AVAILABLE IN CLASSIC!! It's not something that requires a lot of work to implement, because the functionally is ALREADY THERE! They clearly made a conscious decision to remove it and now, despite months of complaints about it, still absolutely refuse to put this functionality back in the beta version.
That wasn't a mea culpa, it was the digital equivalent of a form letter saying "Thanks, valued customer. We appreciate your input."
Sorry - I don't understand the article. Too much text on the page confuses me.
And why are they letting the audience *comment* on it?? Shouldn't an audience just applaud politely?
We're just passive viewers to Dice. "To you, the lucky receivers of Dice's glorious semen, we dedicate this wonderful new beta site. It is our gift to you, the unwashed masses!"
The funny thing is that for all this talk about "We're going to make changes based on your input" horseshit, I would almost be willing to bet that they hired a contractor to do the redesign and that he's already fulfilled his contract and left. I bet that they don't even have the capacity to change the design significantly at this point without hiring a new contractor to do it.
You know what *I* find funny? The fact that Timothy has all this time to downmod ever beta post and up-mod everyone else. I thought he spent every minute of every hour of every day listening to us and our input, working our ways to implement our valued suggestions.
Looks like Timothy is modding all beta posts "0, Offtopic." I wonder how he finds the time, what with all that effort he's putting into listening to our concerns.
And I'm sure it wasn't Timothy who modded this thread "0 off-topic." No, he's far too busy listening to us and implementing our suggestions to have time to do downmods.
Not to worry fellas. They're LISTENING to us (and greatly value our input). Timothy PROMISED!
Just like they've been listening to us for months now, as exactly NOTHING has changed with the beta.
I wonder where the Dice people will go to find new jobs once they've gone belly up.
Considering their past performance and qualifications, my guess would be fluffers for Tijuana donkey porn.
Well I guess on the bright side when Digg did that, their infrastructure costs could have gone way down as they lost most of their users and layed off 37% of their staff.
I just hope Timothy is the first one to go.