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'Alien Life' Story of Dubious Provenance Goes Viral

Sockatume writes "By now you have likely read about the 'alien life forms' discovered in the upper atmosphere over Yorkshire, via the mass media reprinting a press release from the University of Sheffield. Unfortunately, the paper comes from researchers with an infamous tendency to identify inanimate objects as aliens, and is published in a journal that seems to principally exist to print unlikely astrobiological claims. Phil Plait points out flaws in a number of their claims. Quoting: 'They found what appears to be a fragment of a frustrule, the hard outer casing around a diatom. It certainly does look like one. But is it? Weirdly, they apparently didn’t even check. Seriously, in the paper they describe the photo of the object and say [emphasis mine], "On one stub was discovered part of a diatom which, we assume, is clear enough for experts on diatom taxonomy to precisely identify." That implies very strongly they didn’t ask an expert in diatoms to look at their sample. That’s bizarre. If I were claiming this were an ET plant, that’s the very first thing I’d do!'"

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  1. Credit where credit is due by Sockatume · · Score: 5

    My submission was only a crumb of that summary.

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    1. Re:Credit where credit is due by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      I conclude that Phil Plait is the only one with the power to put bold text into slashdot summaries.

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    2. Re:Credit where credit is due by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Funny

      You got me, I am actually on the Phil Plait payroll. All that sweet, sweet science blogger money.

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    3. Re:Credit where credit is due by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I think this is the first time I've seen a "+5 underrated."

      Quick, someone mod it troll and then someone else mod it underrated again, so we can get "Score: 5, Troll"

  2. Who? What? Huh? by X0563511 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "By now you have likely read about the 'alien life forms' discovered in the upper atmosphere over Yorkshire, via the mass media reprinting a press release from the University of Sheffield.

    The what from the who now? Shitty writing. "Oh, by now I'm sure you've heard about the $TRIVIAL_EVENT that occurred 4,000 miles from where I reside 99.999% of my life.

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    1. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Informative

      I guess I badly overestimated how much newsreading Slashdot does but it's currently the top Science story on Google News (tragically) and is getting reprinted all over the fuck.

      https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=dnKMHzxjFcOnzwM_UbabG5Mw_uKHM&topic=snc&siidp=c91213d6efdc327274530d68fc4346a67566

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    2. Re:Who? What? Huh? by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      "By now you have likely read about the 'alien life forms' discovered in the upper atmosphere over Yorkshire, via the mass media reprinting a press release from the University of Sheffield.

      The what from the who now? Shitty writing. "Oh, by now I'm sure you've heard about the $TRIVIAL_EVENT that occurred 4,000 miles from where I reside 99.999% of my life.

      Kind of sad given the key role that Sheffield played in the industrial revolution. For the century prior to WWII Sheffield was producing the finest steel in the world.

      Have they stopped teaching history?

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    3. Re:Who? What? Huh? by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess I badly overestimated how much newsreading Slashdot does but it's currently the top Science story on Google News (tragically) and is getting reprinted all over the fuck.

      As of 1 or 2 hours ago. I haven't even had my morning fix of $FavStimulent. let alone done the rounds of any news websites other than here.

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    4. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      Aah, shit, time zones. In my haste to get this out before the mainstream coverage got any wider, I didn't consider that half of Slashdot wouldn't even be awake.

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    5. Re:Who? What? Huh? by IRGlover · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly! I live in Sheffield and 99.999% of the posts on Slashdot are about "$TRIVIAL_EVENTS" happening 4000 miles away from where I live. So what! If a story is interesting, what does it matter where it happened (not that this is an interesting one, mind you)

    6. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Xest · · Score: 4, Funny

      If it's any consolation that's only about 20 miles from where I reside and I still have no idea what the fuck it is on about.

    7. Re:Who? What? Huh? by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Informative

      huh? anywhere outside of 100km radius around sheffield it's just taught that england made lots of products industrially and among them steel.

      For fine steel products just prior to WWII.. no, sheffield is not the place that comes to mind, not for the century prior to it either. Krupp comes to mind. Of course I suppose that inside UK they wouldn't want to mention that industrial revolution didn't happen just inside UK.

      But.. more importantly, why would I read a newspaper that would publish stupid stuff like this? they're trying to say that since they supposedly found pieces of algae in 25km they must have come from space...

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    8. Re:Who? What? Huh? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1, Funny

      The what from the who now? Shitty writing. "Oh, by now I'm sure you've heard about the $TRIVIAL_EVENT that occurred 4,000 miles from where I reside 99.999% of my life.

      That's what we aliens said to news of you... However, instead of just using the nuclear material to power bastions of life off-world, you created weapons.... and used them... against your own species. Ugh.

      So, here we are. And now I'm required to do P.R. to repair the damage my love for botany has done. Hint: I'm as bad as PR as Overseeing... not that there weren't other candidates, just that I drew the short lot; Probably didn't help that it was my mass miscalculation which prevented the first asteroid from extinguishing the upstarts here millions of years ago...

      Now you qualify for the Endangerd Sentience list! Damn it all. I suppose I deserve it. 4.5 billion years is a long sentence. It'll be a piece of cake if you just keep your life on that wretched little rock, and only explore beyond with cold calculating machines. Now there's a race with potential!

    9. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Xest · · Score: 1

      I find Sheffield quite an interesting city now, given how hard it was hit during the Thatcher era and such it's certainly done a good job of picking itself up.

      The city has really modernised and is far nicer than many others in the region (Leeds). There are still bits that need work but for the most part it's clean, modern, with nice gardens and parks to eat in dispersed around the centre and there always seems to be something going on.

      I believe it's still the UK's 4th largest city and apparently something like 80% of it's economy is built up of small business. Many IT firms there especially have a very startup like feel to them and I wouldn't be surprised given the sheer quantity of small startups and the amount of innovation that's being attempted that over the next decade or two we don't see some major new tech companies emerge out of Sheffield. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest it's anything like silicon valley but it's certainly one of the most entrepreneurial cities in the UK that I've encountered.

      I find many people there are motivated individuals in general, I has a lot of nice places to eat and drink so has a decent night life and social culture in that respect. It has a lot of clubs especially related to science like topics such as astronomy and chemistry that you see much less of in other UK cities too which is a sign both of the will of people there to get off their arses and organise things and the entrepreneurial spirit.

      And it's funny, because despite living within about 20 miles of Sheffield for 15 years I'd only been into the city centre once, normally if I was going into a large city centre it would've been Leeds because well, it's the 3rd biggest city in the UK and it has a reputation as being a great big city.

      But after doing a contract for a year in Sheffield last year I discovered this rather fantastic city right on my door step and all the things mentioned above. Now I tend to look on Leeds as a dirty boring shit hole in contrast.

      Sheffield is a city that's genuinely pleasantly surprised me and I believe because of it's positive traits it will not simply be a city with an interesting history, but also a city with an interesting future.

    10. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

      This is Slashdot. We keep hackers' hours. If you're lucky, 30% are awake, and 5% are functional.

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    11. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      For fine steel products just prior to WWII.. no, sheffield is not the place that comes to mind, not for the century prior to it either.

      Mass production of steel started in Sheffield: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessemer_process

      The whole city is a mess of steel mills (well, derelict/museums now...)

      (went to university there)

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    12. Re:Who? What? Huh? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      $TRIVIAL_EVENT that occurred 4,000 miles from where I reside 99.999% of my life

      Welcome to the internet. Knowing about some doofus claiming he's found alien life in the upper atmosphere isn't any more unlikely than knowing that a cat named in Japan (6500 miles from where I am) loves to sit in cardboard boxes.

    13. Re:Who? What? Huh? by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      This is Slashdot. We keep hackers' hours. If you're lucky, 30% are awake, and 5% are functional.

      This seems to be true at any given time of day... (grin)

      Unless the topic has something to do with UNIX, Apple, or basements.... (evil grin)

    14. Re:Who? What? Huh? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      huh? anywhere outside of 100km radius around sheffield it's just taught that england made lots of products industrially and among them steel.

      For fine steel products just prior to WWII.. no, sheffield is not the place that comes to mind, not for the century prior to it either. Krupp comes to mind. Of course I suppose that inside UK they wouldn't want to mention that industrial revolution didn't happen just inside UK.

      But.. more importantly, why would I read a newspaper that would publish stupid stuff like this? they're trying to say that since they supposedly found pieces of algae in 25km they must have come from space...

      Go find your grandparents kitchen knives. Even in north america there's a better than 50% chance that any good quality knife that's over 50 years gold was made in Sheffield.

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    15. Re:Who? What? Huh? by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      Didn't you blokes make Fine China there?

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    16. Re:Who? What? Huh? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Are you serious?

      One place produced about half of Europe's steel, but that's not what comes to mindl. Instead a rather large company (the joys of bailouts and too big to fail was all the rage back then too) that is really famous for making weapons for the Nazis using slave labor sourced from concentration camps is your go to name?

    17. Re:Who? What? Huh? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      For shits and giggle google "Sheffield made in China"

      The Sheffield brand-name is/was so strong that there's rumors of a small town in China called Sheffield with a steel mill.

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    18. Re:Who? What? Huh? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      Are you serious?

      One place produced about half of Europe's steel, but that's not what comes to mindl. Instead a rather large company (the joys of bailouts and too big to fail was all the rage back then too) that is really famous for making weapons for the Nazis using slave labor sourced from concentration camps is your go to name?

      Kids these days eh?

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    19. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Alsee · · Score: 2

      It may be "getting reprinted all over the fuck", but I had blissfully managed to avoid seeing it.... until getting stabbed in the eye with it on Slashdot. Thanx.

      I've been awake 5 minutes and already I've had a 100% Recommended Daily Allowance of pain, misery, cynicism, stupidity, scientific illiteracy, and media whoring.
      Now I can't check cable news for today's update on the budget/Obamacare battle.

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    20. Re:Who? What? Huh? by bmo · · Score: 1

      Someone sent me a picture of a "headless kitty in a box" the other day.

      I knew instantly it was Maru.

      WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME!?

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    21. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      I am so, so sorry.

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  3. Too Legit to ctrl-alt-delete by cyberpocalypse · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, paper was generated by MIT, so it just may be legit http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/

    1. Re:Too Legit to ctrl-alt-delete by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

      But they're acting like diatomaceous earth doesn't exist.

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    2. Re:Too Legit to ctrl-alt-delete by somersault · · Score: 1

      Seems like you didn't click the link.. :D

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    3. Re:Too Legit to ctrl-alt-delete by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Funny

      But they're acting like diatomaceous earth doesn't exist.

      Of course it exists. What they've found is diatomaceous SPACE!

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  4. Ee, by gum... aliens above Yorkshire.. by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ey up... here are some images of t' alleged Yorkshire aliens' purported spacecraft.

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    1. Re:Ee, by gum... aliens above Yorkshire.. by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Apparently, Yorkshiremen sound just like guys from Maine.

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    2. Re:Ee, by gum... aliens above Yorkshire.. by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Silly sod. 'ant thee realised that accents din't carry well on t'Internet?

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  5. The stupid, it burns! by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I actually read part of TFA and wow, those idiots shouldn't even be allowed near a computer. There's so much marketing/lawyerish weasely BS in there to be misleading, I can't believe it. It has zero basis in science and is basically a showy theory to grab headlines. This is definitely tabloid level crap here.

  6. Wrong county by OptimalCynic · · Score: 2

    They should have looked over Lancashire instead, specifically Wigan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDvJapTZDtg

  7. diatom taxidermy by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I got one of those things mounted on the wall above the mantle.

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  8. Bad assumptions. Why not find on the moon? by beltsbear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We brought back samples from the moon, if this stuff is floating around all of the time out in space just waiting to land, why did we not find anything in the moon samples? The stuff was obviously thrown up from the ground if it is organic, one cannot assume just from the height that it had to be from space.

  9. There could be a more mundane explanation. by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Interesting
  10. Did they get hacked by the Onion? by msauve · · Score: 1
    Because, this quote from the claimant, on the University of Sheffield's web site, sure sounds Onion-esque:

    We will take some of the samples which we have isolated from the stratosphere and introduce them into a complex machine - a button will be pressed. If the ratio of certain isotopes gives one number then our organisms are from Earth, if it gives another, then they are from space. The tension will obviously be almost impossible to live with!

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  11. Where's they cray haired guy when you need him? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm not saying it was aliens, but..wait, you know, what, no, not even I think these are aliens."

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    1. Re:Where's they cray haired guy when you need him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know supercomputers can be hairy at times, but I've never heard of someone with one on his head.

  12. ey oop by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    Aliens over Yorkshire? they just be laikin ye lad!

  13. It is a diatom, but that's not enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, it is a diatom. A broken piece of a frustule of one. Judging from the morphology it looks like a pennate species, although which one it is would take some work to figure out.

    But why people would think finding a bit of a diatom either high in the atmosphere or as a subsequent contaminant sitting on top of your SEM stub during analysis, I have no idea. The things are fricking *everywhere* in ordinary dust from natural sources. They are also commonly used for filtration and other industrial purposes ("diatomaceous earth"). I've even seen them in drinking water samples, either somehow managing to get through the regular filters or perhaps from the filters themselves. Earthly contamination is very, very likely, and it makes no sense to consider this example as anything but. Saying a species of diatom is from space is a sloppy and nonsensical conclusion.

  14. Quick sanity test by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    So, they found this in the stratosphere, on their one flight. Ok fine. They think these are showeing earth.....

    Has anyone on the ISS, in low earth orbit, taken a sample of space? Actually, come to think of it, hasn't nasa sent up a mission with specially designed cells of aerogel just for this purpose?

    I don't recall them finding anything like this, and they are not too far outside the atmosphere.

    Call me crazy but, this is a pretty extraordinary claim for such paltry evidence.

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    1. Re:Quick sanity test by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      Two missions, Stardust and Genesis. Genesis is the one that famously exploited lithobraking.

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    2. Re:Quick sanity test by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Lithobraking had previously been considered unachievable, until the brilliant introduction of post-hoc crumplezones.

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  15. Viral? by mynameiskhan · · Score: 1

    Where is it gone viral? When they published it, it was a phytoplankton and it still is.