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Ask Slashdot: Prioritizing Saleable Used Computer Books?

g01d4 writes "I volunteer at a used bookstore that supports the local library. One of my tasks is to sort book donations. For > 5-year-old computer books the choices typically are to save it for sale (fifty cents soft cover, one dollar hardback), pack it, e.g. for another library's bookstore, put it on the free cart, or toss it in the recycle bin. I occasionally dumpster dive the recycle bin to 'rescue' books that I don't think should be pulped. Recently I found a copy of PostgresSQL Essential Reference (2002) and Programming Perl (1996). Would you have left them to RIP? Obviously we have very limited space, 20 shelf feet (storage + sale) for STEM. What criteria would you use when sorting these types of books?"

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  1. By Year... by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although there are many good, reliable books that are several years old (on computer principles, logical logic and whatnot), you'll probably be better off sorting by year.

    You'll end up putting a few great books farther down the line than you otherwise would, but sorting by publication date will ensure that the vast majority of the books are still relevant.

    If you've got time, sort by quality. You're the expert, though, and your time is limited. Would you prefer something that is good enough - and done, or something that's perfect ... but not available.

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    1. Re:By Year... by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I might add, for the questionable books, put them in a box and list them on one of the online auctions for cheep or something- buyer pays shipping. There might be an admin out there that inherited something old and needs reference material or perhaps a kid getting a hand me down system and wants to make use of it.

      Try to make the same cash as you would selling it in store, but make sure your supervisor or someone else in charge knows about it so it doesn't appear like you are taking books and selling them on the side.

    2. Re:By Year... by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't know, Programming Perl would be more relevant to more people than anything written in the last couple of years.

    3. Re:By Year... by Anrego · · Score: 5, Informative

      That book is great and has aged really damn well. I still dig out my second edition copy from time to time. The "gory details" section is great when you are trying to figure out some obscure incantation that some sadistic bastard left as a present for you in a legacy script.

      I'd still recommend reading that book cover to cover to anyone that wants to learn perl. You won't be a guru, but you'll have a pretty solid foundation.

    4. Re:By Year... by kcitren · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What part of volunteer didn't you understand?

    5. Re:By Year... by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd add a bit of rough categorization here based on my own buying patterns.

      Applications (Office, Photoshop, etc) have a very short shelve life. Anything over a couple of years old is useless.
      Languages (Perl, PHP, Ruby); throw away after a decade or so. It differs though; old C books may still apply, old Java books less so.
      Theory (algorithms, methodologies); should be good for a long, long time.

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  2. Too late by djupedal · · Score: 4, Informative

    You've already put more into it than it's worth, but if you really want to know, find the local big book store's buyback locale and walk it in there. They have estimates for everything, and for what they don't have, they can speculate, but at that point it's usually due another trip to the dumpster/recycler.

    1. Re:Too late by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You might be right.

      Google a sentence out the the beginning of some chapter that looks kind of unique. Google it in quotes.

      If the book shows up somewhere on the web, trash it.
      You are not doing humanity any favors by keeping those fibers out of the recycle chain.

      (If you are worried about the apocalypse start saving gardening books, not computer books.)

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    2. Re:Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shhhh... if people could use Google all by their widdle lonesome, then there'd be no Ask Slashdot.

    3. Re:Too late by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your metric will end up with no computer books being available. It took about 2 days between my last book being published and it being possible to find pirate copies online, and yet people are still buying it so obviously some people would rather have the dead-tree edition, and I suspect that most of those would happily buy it at a fraction of the price in a charity shop...

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  3. Give older editions to beginners, the curious ... by perpenso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Recently I found a copy of PostgresSQL Essential Reference (2002) and Programming Perl (1996). Would you have left them to RIP?

    When I replace a book with a newer edition I set aside the older edition. Sooner or later a relative, friend, co-worker, someone will express an interest in learning to program or learning some new area. My old K&R The C Programming Language, Foley and van Dam Fundamentals of Interactive Computer Graphics, etc all found new homes this way. Why toss out a book that someone curious might want to take a look at?

  4. Donate to Goodwill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot of technical books end up being sold on ebay or through Amazon's used book dealer network. If you give stuff to Goodwill, chances are it will end up in one of those places if it has any resale value.

  5. References become dated by Maow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd say the reference book has likely become outdated and current info is easily found on the internet.

    But books like the Perl Camel book - much more than merely a reference - those are valuable for long after their topic is upgraded.

    My 2 cents. Good luck...

    1. Re:References become dated by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, depending on when it was bought it may have come with all of the "animal books" about Perl on CD with it (mine did anyway). And, your local library may have a Safari subscription - mine does. No need for paper in the majority of cases. As a teacher its great because I can assign just a few great chapters from various books and not cost the student $250 in books for a 3 credit class.

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  6. Sell it to Intellectual Property Law Firms by speedplane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Patent lawyers trying to bust patents from the mid 1990s live on this stuff. Call your local friendly intellectual property law firm and see if you can unload the whole batch. They'd probably pay much more than $1.00/book.

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    1. Re:Sell it to Intellectual Property Law Firms by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Interestingly, the last copy of the PenPoint Interface Guidelines I sold on Amazon was to such a law firm.

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  7. Fundamentals by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Save anything that is foundational or fundamental to any particular field. Any book that continues to be cited academically or has increased in value on the used market should probably be kept.

    My local public library system foolishly trashed some true classics in algorithms, graphics, and fractals simply because they were old. Now all you find in the stacks are books focused on instruction for specific software applications, books which are certain to be obsolete in a few years.

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    1. Re:Fundamentals by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.

      Books on the theory of computing, physics, mathematics, and so on far outlive reference manuals. Keep texts that describe things like O(n) notation, matrix and vector math, graphics, simulations, and so on.

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  8. Programming books are best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work at a used bookstore, and I was in charge of our computer books section. My experience was that programming books would sell the best - I would put them on the shelf, no matter how old they were, and they would sell. You'd be surprised to see that some still look up for $10-20 on Amazon too, even at over 10 years old. Java & C/C++ sold the best, but they would all sell, I always had empty room on those shelves. The next best sellers were database/server books, then recent Windows OS/recentish OS X/any Linux books. Older OS books (especially older Windows books), most application books, and most how-to-use-a-computer/internet/laptop/etc books did not sell well unless they were less than a year old.

    So I would have also rescued your two books - I think they were good choices, and are likely to sell even though they are old. I would use the above criteria for determining what to keep, and if space is an issue, I'd limit some of the OS/application/textbook sort of stuff to 2-3 years back instead of 5 rather than get rid of older programming & server/database books.

  9. Amazon Sales Rank? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could you whip up a little tool that would scan the barcode, query the item on Amazon, and see what the sales rank is? There you'd have market telling you what is in demand and what is not. I'd bet (not looking now) the Knuth books have a decent used sales rank while "Learning Filemaker 2.1" does not.

    Find your threshold(s) and have the tool tell the clerk [shelve,sell,recycle].

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  10. *Some* old ones are valuable by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The APPLE II BASIC programming manual by Jef Raskin currently goes for $52 and up on Amazon. A few years ago I found a late-'90s book on embedded systems programming that turned out to be in demand and later sold for about $100 on Amazon. So look up anything unusual, specific, or that might have nostalgia value there or on Bookfinder.com before you recycle them or sell them for a buck or two.

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  11. Re:Let the market decide... by SQLGuru · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bookfinder.com is a quick and easy search that covers Amazon as well as several other used book sources. It's got an ISBN search so you can see how well a particular version is doing on the market. My wife and kids have used it to pick up college text books.

  12. Re:Programming books by the inventors by zjbs14 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pascal? I'm not sure it's Wirth it.

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  13. Re:Ya know... by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure how helpful your anti-book rant is going to be for a volunteer at a bookstore which helps a library, which happens to be a subculture which is going to be immune to any argument you make, no matter how well presented. They rather like their books, you see, and some of the people they serve don't have computers. Should they come to the library to read the books online?

    I will say that I bought an e-Ink device precisely so I could read stuff I got from the internet, in a book like format. I much prefer it, and I can't defend my preference any more than you can argue that I should prefer chocolate or vanilla. I just like it.

    If I am one click away from a local file, I would open it instead of the book. But I rarely am. How many times a day are you one click away from the book you need? If your answer is anything other than "okay I was exaggerating" you are weird. Seriously, most people don't keep books on the desktop or in a folder that is always visible.

    If I had to plug in an external drive or DVD, wait for it to spin up, browse to the folder, find the file, and wait for the PDF reader to open up, I would open the book. I can make things sound more complicated than they really are to make my point sound more convincing.

    I'm also actually quite good at finding what I want to in a book - with practice it gets easier.

    Some people agree with you - you are currently at +4. So you're not wrong. But others disagree with you, and we aren't wrong, either.

  14. Re:Ya know... by pkhs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What do you mean by "Skip the TeX stuff though, he went insane at some point"? Is there anything better for producing readable math with both ease and at low cost (that can be used for high quality print publishing if desired)?

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  15. Re:Use Amazon by cskrat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Assuming you have a smartphone of some sort, Amazon actually has an app that does most of the work for you. Especially if you want help from co-workers/volunteers/etc. that might not know the difference between "Learn Excel 20xx in 24 Hours" and "Code Complete 2nd Ed.".

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.pricecheck

    If it sells for a penny, pulp it.
    If it sells for a dollar, give it away.
    If it sells for more, sell it.

    Or whatever thresholds you like.

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