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Why Are Cells the Size They Are? Gravity May Be a Factor

carmendrahl writes "Eukaryotic cells, which are defined by having a nucleus, rarely grow larger than 10 micrometers in diameter. Scientists know a few reasons why this is so. A new study suggests another reason — gravity. Studying egg cells from the frog Xenopus laevis, which reach as big as 1 mm across and are common research tools, Princeton researchers Marina Feric and Clifford Brangwynne noticed that the insides of the eggs' nuclei settled to the bottom when they disabled a mesh made from the cytoskeleton protein actin. They think the frog eggs evolved the mesh to counteract gravity, which according to their calculations becomes significant if cells get bigger than 10 micrometers in diameter."

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  1. Think of the children! by ThatAblaze · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I'm reading this correctly, it seems very possible that any children born in space would grow up to look like jabba the hut, since the whole gravety issue would no longer be a problem.

    1. Re:Think of the children! by ThatAblaze · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't call it easy. Sure, in a relatively non-mobile space station that was reasonably small it would be a trivial problem. However, changing the direction of a spinning object at high speeds is no simple task, and at a certain size the station would pull itself apart unless it was made of some sort of super strong exotic metal.

      Plus, a structure like that would be hard to maintain over a long period of time since a self sustaining micro-ecosystem would need a body of water of some sort, and any leaks in the outer hull would then dump the water out into space. ect, ect, ect.. I wouldn't take long at all for some genius to come up with the bright idea of just not spinning and instead making exercise mandatory. Then out come the jabba babies.

    2. Re:Think of the children! by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      Just be glad for the centripetal force, or the puke would be a whole lot worse.

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    3. Re:Think of the children! by icebike · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I'm reading this correctly, it seems very possible that any children born in space would grow up to look like jabba the hut, since the whole gravety issue would no longer be a problem.

      Judging from what I see at Walmart, you don't have to go to space the see Jabba.
      The gravity problem is in evidence there as well.

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    4. Re:Think of the children! by cripkd · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't the cell growth and divison mechanism need at least a few generation untill they "realize" there's no more gravity and they can grow larger?

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    5. Re:Think of the children! by TheLink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      at a certain size the station would pull itself apart unless it was made of some sort of super strong exotic metal.

      Attach space station to counterweight with a bunch of long tethers.
      Spin to taste.
      We've got cables holding up rather heavy stuff down on Earth.
      No need to spin at high speeds, no need for big space stations.

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    6. Re:Think of the children! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wouldn't call it easy. Sure, in a relatively non-mobile space station that was reasonably small it would be a trivial problem. However, changing the direction of a spinning object at high speeds is no simple task

      For space stations we don't want to change direction drastically, we only want to make minor adjustments. Along the spinning axis is trivial, in any other direction the thrust could be synchronized with the rotation. Depending on how advanced you want it to be you may have to adjust the rotation again after adjusting the direction.

      and at a certain size the station would pull itself apart unless it was made of some sort of super strong exotic metal.

      The force we are talking about is one earth gravity. That is, the force is no larger than what hanging bridges or building floors already have to deal with. The super strong exotic metal we usually use for this is steel but wood is becoming more popular again.

      Plus, a structure like that would be hard to maintain over a long period of time since a self sustaining micro-ecosystem would need a body of water of some sort, and any leaks in the outer hull would then dump the water out into space.

      This is no different from what happens when there is a leak in the outer hull of a non-spinning space station. The pressure difference between the inside and the outside of the station is already high enough to cause this.

      ect, ect, ect

      Well, there are some problems that neither you or I have addressed. The most obvious one is that a small station would have to spin incredibly fast. The common sci-fi solution to this is to use a counterweight on a wire to make it possible to rotate around a point that is placed far out from the station. This in return causes problem with docking since you can't just slowly adjust to the same velocity and spin but have to tangent the station.
      A possible solution would be to have an entrypoint at the center of the rotation and have an elevator down to the station. The difference here is that when the elevator is close to the center it can't rely on the gravity the way regular elevators work but might need a bidirectional pull solution.

      Another minor problem with a spinning station is that while attached to it you get the same gravitational force so all external maintenance will be done hanging from the station. This means that if you disconnect you will be "falling" away from the station. This might seem like a problem but isn't really more problematic that any other hanging maintenance already done in gravity. Less focus on getting back if you fall and more focus on not falling to begin with.

    7. Re:Think of the children! by barlevg · · Score: 2

      Start with a=omega^2*r

      Assume human height is 2m.

      So difference in acceleration between your head and your feet will always be: a1-a2=omega^2*r-omega^2*(r- 2m)
      a1-a2=omega^2*(2 m)

      Assume acceptable acceleration difference is 1 m/s^2 (just for sake of argument and easy computation). Then the maximum omega^2 is 0.5 radians^2/seconds^2.

      Assume we want the acceleration at the floor to be 10 m/s^2 (approx. 1 earth gravity). Then using the first equation, we get a radius of 20m.

  2. Conversion for the casual reader by pipatron · · Score: 2, Funny

    And if it's not obvious (mainly for our SI-challenged readers), 10 micrometers equals 0.01 mm.

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    1. Re:Conversion for the casual reader by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      That'll show him!

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    2. Re:Conversion for the casual reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or about 4.97096954 x 10e-8 furlongs

    3. Re:Conversion for the casual reader by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, 10 micrometers are:
      3.2808399 × 10^-5 feet.
      6.18735316522 x 10^9 Plank lengths
      1.0936133 × 10^-5 yards.
      6.36942675 × 10^-8 itinerary stadia.
      5.46806649 × 10^-6 fathoms
      1.98838782 × 10^-6 rods
      4.97096954 × 10^-8 furlongs

    4. Re:Conversion for the casual reader by DavidD_CA · · Score: 2

      And there are 91,440,000 micrometers in a football (US) field.

      Glad that's cleared up.

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  3. Summary is wrong by postglock · · Score: 4, Informative

    This makes no sense. Actin is found in practically all eukaryotic cells, including those that are tiny. TFA makes no claim that "frog eggs evolved the [actin] mesh to counteract gravity".

    1. Re:Summary is wrong by Metachs · · Score: 4, Informative

      It isn't referring to generic cellular actin, it's referring to the nuclear actin which the larger cells had a much higher concentration of. Its obvious even if you just read the abstract of the actual article, just not the shitty summary on C&EN.

    2. Re:Summary is wrong by postglock · · Score: 2

      Sorry, I was being unclear. I was implying that the Slashdot summary was incorrect. (Which is probably no news.)

  4. That isn't right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know micrometers can vary in size, but it seems like 10 micrometers should be around thirty inches long.

  5. Single Cell Organism Up to 38mm/1.5 inch Diameter by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Informative
    Gromia Sphaerica

    Gromia sphaerica is a large spherical testate amoeba, a single-celled organism classed among the protists and is the largest in the genus Gromia. It was discovered in 2000, along the Oman margin of the Arabian sea, at depths from 1163 to 1194 meters (3816 to 3917 feet). Specimens range in size from 4.7 to 38 millimeters (0.2 to 1.5 inches) in diameter.

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  6. Surface area by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was under the impression that surface area played a significant role in this as well, which probably couldn't be easily discounted. The surface area of a sphere is 4 pi times the radius squared while the volume is 4/3 pi times the radius cubed. So, the greater the radius, the greater the ratio of volume to surface area. This usually doesn't scale well, as it means there is more mass to support and less means of getting the input and output needed to support it. I'm not saying that gravity doesn't contribute as well, but that's a fairly difficult barrier as well.

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  7. Re:Why are cells spheres by jkflying · · Score: 2

    Or it could be to minimise their surface area for a given volume?

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  8. Re:Why are cells spheres by jkflying · · Score: 2

    By osmosis. Imagine inflating a water balloon, if you pump a heavier fluid like water into it, even in the presence of gravity it will take on a spherical shape. Of course it will be *slightly* deformed, but that's all up to the ratio of weight:surface strength.

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  9. Re:Why are cells spheres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only cells that are spherical are floating. And not all floating cells are spherical (yeast, for example). The cells of most multicellular organisms take on a shape by adhering to each other to to an extracellular matrix, and they generate internal tension by pulling on the adhesions. When you disaggregate the tissue, the individual cells still try to maintain that tension, but with nothing to pull against tend to pull the cell into a little ball.

  10. Planets and life by Sqreater · · Score: 2

    Does this mean there is also a "goldilocks size" to a planet for advanced life, even any life to evolve? Can it be at the correct distance from its star, have water, and still be essentially dead? Can a planet look like the Earth but because it is five times the size, be sterile?

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    1. Re:Planets and life by foniksonik · · Score: 2

      It's awful when you start with one thought and end with another.

      Five times mass rather than size. A planet five times bigger could be less dense eg have less mass for a given volume and therefore have a similar gravity to earth.

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  11. Re:ISS by garyebickford · · Score: 4, Informative

    Scientists have been doing stem cell (mostly plant stem cells, but also some mammalian etc.) growth experiments on the ISS for some years (IIRC six flights so far). Results are interesting. Among other things, perhaps the two most interesting results have been as follows.

    In microgravity, cell growth is not limited to 2D. For example, that $250,000 hamburger was made by growing hundreds or thousands of one-cell-thick strips on petri dishes. In space, that is no longer the case. So stem cells can be grown one or two orders of magnitude faster, limited only by the need to get nutrients delivered to each cell and wastes removed.

    Some mammalian cells that are very difficult or so far impossible to grow down here on Earth have been shown to grow pretty well up there in microgravity, including some human tissue types.

    While some form of life on Earth has encountered and adapted to almost every other environmental condition (temperature, light, pH, etc.), so far as we know no living systems have ever had to deal with microgravity. So when grown in space, the cells basically 'freak out', not knowing what to do, and apparently try turning all of their genes to see what works. This seems to make them more amenable to influence by the environment, such as by adjusting temperature outside the norm for the species. Zero Gravity Solutions, a biotech company, is preparing further experiments on the ISS to explore this and related questions. (disclosure: I have a small investment in ZeroGSI.)

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  12. Neutrally Bouyant. by neorush · · Score: 2

    Couldn't a cell be neutrally buoyant in water negating the effects of gravity? I thought it was something like surface tension keeping these things small, it would also make sense that this mesh would counteract surface tension.

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