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Romanian Science Journal Punked By Serbian Academics

schwit1 writes "A group of Serbian academics, disgusted with the poor state of their country's research output, have scammed a Romanian science journal by getting it to accept their completely fabricated hoax article. From the article: 'The paper is replete with transparent gimmicks — obvious, that is, had anyone at the publication been paying attention — including a reference to the scholarship of [singer Michael] Jackson, Weber, [porn star Ron] Jeremy and citations to new studies by Bernoulli and Laplace, both dead more than 180 years (Weber died in 1920). They also throw in references to the "Journal of Modern Illogical Studies," which to the best of our knowledge does not and never has existed (although perhaps it should), and to a researcher named, dubiously, "A.S. Hole." And, we hasten to add, the noted Kazakh polymath B. Sagdiyev, otherwise known as Borat.' Their paper is hilarious and completely ridiculous, and yet it was published in a so-called serious journal without question. The best part is that they list Alan Sokal's hoax paper from 1996 as one of their sources."

95 comments

  1. Great idea! by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Funny

    Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

    1. Re:Great idea! by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Sounds like a cunning plan.

    2. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, scamming a Romanian science journal is the solution to every problem now!

    3. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Sounds like a cunning plan.

      Yes, now Serbia can be proud of not publishing such rubbish. If you can't do well yourself make sure someone else does worse

    4. Re:Great idea! by X.25 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Do you even understand what the story is there?

      This "science journal" has nothing to do with science, they just print anything people pay them to print and call themselves a 'science journal'. This is how various 'scientists' meet their publishing quota.

      By simply publishing shit in a "science journal", they keep their (state funded) privileges.

      3 rebellious guys were tired of watching all those corrupted mediocres get away with it, so they managed to get complete nonsense published in this 'science journal' in order to prove that works published in this piece of shit have no value.

      Things like this have been done for quite some time now, in many countries. There are quite few journals like this.

      Sadly, probably nothing will change.

    5. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Sounds like a cunning plan.

      Yes, now Serbia can be proud of not publishing such rubbish. If you can't do well yourself make sure someone else does worse

      The entire point of this stunt obviously fell 20 feet short in your mind(s). I suppose you all fail to see the larger issue here with them being able to get away with this, as I now have to question every process to publish a paper in every country, as I'm willing to bet most review processes are just as pathetic. In fact, I'd love someone to pay this group to exercise this test on a global scale just to prove how much "published" papers have a hell of a lot more to do with revenue than they do results.

      In that way, this reminds me of Amazon product reviews. The difference is we're not using Amazon reviews to create laws and legalize products.

    6. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And have you understood yourself the article ? It is stating that they were disgusted with their own county scientific output yet they scammed journal from different county - not even neighbouring one ...

    7. Re:Great idea! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Great. Now even scientific activism has been balkanized.

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    8. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, scamming a Romanian science journal is the solution to every problem now!

      Oh, my, God... it's all so obvious now.

      1. Collect Underpants.
      2. Scam Romanian science journal.
      3. Profit!

    9. Re:Great idea! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      not even neighbouring one

      Your knowledge of geography sucks.

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    10. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point stands nevertheless

    11. Re:Great idea! by zmooc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      as I now have to question every process to publish a paper in every country

      Since when does papers being published have any value? I suggest not trusting reviews based solely on them being done by popular entities such as "scientific" journals. Instead, get advice from experts and think for yourself. See what experts think, not what a commercial entity that earns money by publishing stuff thinks.

      There should not be a place "scientific" journals in modern science. They have no added value whatsoever and in fact harm free sharing of knowledge and information. It's not 1956 anymore - all scientific papers could easily be made available in a free open standardized way. The same goes for reviews. The scientific world failing to get this right is utterly sad.

      Even if this scientific journal would have refused to publish this specific hoax, why would we need them? What's added value do they provide?

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    12. Re:Great idea! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The other way of looking at it is that much valuable research takes more than 1 year to complete, so releasing X papers per year is not realistic for many scientists. Hence the stream of bullshit filler until their real work produces interesting results.

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    13. Re:Great idea! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      There was a point?

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    14. Re:Great idea! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Disgusted with the poor state of Serbia's research output, I will now also scam a Romanian science journal.

      Great. Now even scientific activism has been balkanized.

      I'm pretty sure that the Balkans have been balkanized more or less forever, by the standards of human history.

    15. Re:Great idea! by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Great success!!

    16. Re:Great idea! by sjames · · Score: 1

      There should not be a place "scientific" journals in modern science. They have no added value whatsoever and in fact harm free sharing of knowledge and information. It's not 1956 anymore - all scientific papers could easily be made available in a free open standardized way. The same goes for reviews. The scientific world failing to get this right is utterly sad.

      And we know the journals provide no value because of original research such as the subject of TFA. At one time there was value as it provided some assurance that the papers had been reviewed for quality.

    17. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Curation.

      Journals, and in some fields conferences, provide a useful curation service. otherwise, you'd be lost in a mire of shit papers looking for what might be interesting and well done. Hint, scientists do not enjoy doing peer review, and will not go to your blog to review your writings.

    18. Re:Great idea! by Lamps · · Score: 1

      I now have to question every process to publish a paper in every country, as I'm willing to bet most review processes are just as pathetic.

      I take it you've never had the pleasure of publishing a scientific paper. You should really go ahead and try to confirm your theory by publishing a paper in a journal with a reasonable impact factor - if you manage to do so, the results themselves would be worthy of publication.

    19. Re:Great idea! by jwdb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They have no added value whatsoever

      I've just had a paper accepted in a journal, and the multiple reviews it went through distinctly improved the quality of the paper. The idea remained the same, but my explanation could have been better, and multiple emails with the reviewer discussing if it was correct helped me improve and refine it. *Maybe* I would have gotten that from an open access database as well, but the added value of a reputable journal is that they can't get away with publishing poor and sloppy work.

    20. Re:Great idea! by Lamps · · Score: 2

      Since when does papers being published have any value? I suggest not trusting reviews based solely on them being done by popular entities such as "scientific" journals. Instead, get advice from experts and think for yourself. See what experts think, not what a commercial entity that earns money by publishing stuff thinks.

      There should not be a place "scientific" journals in modern science. They have no added value whatsoever and in fact harm free sharing of knowledge and information. It's not 1956 anymore - all scientific papers could easily be made available in a free open standardized way. The same goes for reviews. The scientific world failing to get this right is utterly sad.

      Journals facilitate peer reviews by people with doctorates who specialize in a topic related to the paper you submit. Does a person fitting those criteria qualify as an "expert" by your definition? These academics/experts/specialists, along with the journal's editor, offer extensive critiques of your paper, often several pages long. A paper often goes through a few rounds of reviews, and often ends up a significantly stronger work with each iteration. Journals also provide a copy-editor who can perform a variety of useful tasks, from stylistic suggestions, to checking your references.

      Journals can be criticized on various grounds, and there are models of scientific publishing being explored that should be considered as alternatives to journals, but to dismiss journals outright, as many on this thread have done is unwarranted, and much of this seems to stem from a lack of knowledge and experience in the academic publishing domain.

    21. Re:Great idea! by JTsyo · · Score: 1

      Serbia =/= Siberia

    22. Re:Great idea! by chihowa · · Score: 2, Informative

      The point of scientific journals is not so much the publication as it is the peer review process. Peer review is important to establish that the experimental methodology and conclusions drawn are well controlled and sound. That's something you don't get with non-peer reviewed self-published papers (and if you've read many of them, it really shows sometimes).

      Of course, the publishers of these journals, as demonstrated in the article, seem to think that the publication is the important part and obviously care less about good peer reviewing. There's still a place in modern science for this whole process, but clearly the journals want to ensure that they aren't a part of whatever better solution we find.

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    23. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The value of a journal is when (if) they provide proper reviewing and editorial control to make papers better. They are supposed to filter out the fluff that doesn't stand up to basic scrutiny so that people don't have to wade through it themselves to get to the good stuff. This journal failed spectacularly. Most journals are far more demanding. That's what makes them useful and what adds value.

      While I could indeed "self publish" papers on my web site, the fact is they would not be as good as they are if I go through the normal review process prior to publication. All of my papers are better for readers because I've been compelled to add things, address criticisms, or explain things that I would not have done otherwise.

    24. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that scientists was from one country and scammed another.

    25. Re:Great idea! by binarstu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I had any mod points to give, I'd mod the parent up.

      The GP states,

      There should not be a place "scientific" journals in modern science. They have no added value whatsoever and in fact harm free sharing of knowledge and information.

      Anybody who makes that claim has no real grasp of how science works. Science journals have come under fire for a variety of reasons in recent years, but the peer review process that is central to scientific publishing is why journals are so important. And I am using "journal" in the broadest sense to include open-access, online-only publications. As long as they include quality peer review, they are science journals.

      As others have pointed out, the process of taking a paper through peer review often leads to substantial improvements to the original manuscript or reveals shortcomings that must be addressed before the work can be published. And, most of the time, it keeps the really bad work from ever being published at all. Is the process perfect? Of course not. But an anecdotal case of spectacular failure by an obscure mettalurgy journal does not mean the whole concept is worthless. It merely means that journal is bad. The peer-review process is the best method we have for ensuring the quality of scientific work, and without it (and the journals that provide the structure for it), scientific progress would be greatly hindered. Until we come up with a better way to filter the good from the bad, journals will remain an essential part of science.

    26. Re:Great idea! by WheezyJoe · · Score: 2

      The GP states,

      There should not be a place "scientific" journals in modern science. They have no added value whatsoever and in fact harm free sharing of knowledge and information.

      Anybody who makes that claim has no real grasp of how science works. Science journals have come under fire for a variety of reasons in recent years, but the peer review process that is central to scientific publishing is why journals are so important.

      THIS.

      What bothers me the most is that whenever something, and I mean anything, has problems, some people must shill about throwing it all out. Don't fix it, or even figure out whether the problem is real or not. Just post that it all should get torn down. Ahhh... self-satisfaction.

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    27. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as I now have to question every process to publish a paper in every country

      You should have been doing that in the first place. I don't care if the paper is published or not, you need to use some critical thinking. If you want to just mindlessly accept what is presented to you as fact and truth without question or thought, turn on the TV and watch the news.

      The difference is we're not using Amazon reviews to create laws and legalize products.

      We should not be using papers to create laws and makes products illegal to start with. (Contrary to what you believe, laws do not make things Legal- everything is legal unless a law makes it illegal.) Papers are simply publications of one person (or group's) alleged research. Laws should be based on professional expertise coming from multiple sources and part of a public debate.

    28. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when does papers being published have any value? I suggest not trusting reviews based solely on them being done by popular entities such as "scientific" journals. Instead, get advice from experts and think for yourself.

      Those papers are the advice from experts. Publication in a journal is proof that several other experts agree with the paper and find no fault in it. That expert validation is the value that journals provide. As a non-expert, this is the best information that you have to rely upon unless you want to go through the 6-8-year Ph.D. program to become an expert yourself. If you do go through the Ph.D. program, you will be learning from the same journals and papers. This is why the integrity of these journals is really important.

    29. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A crucial point is not mentioned in the article: Serbian researchers get extra points for publishing internationally. This is a reasonable idea, as the pool of peers to review articles in Serbia is quite small, and a bigger playing field offers more ideas from more players (i.e. reviewers). That's the idea. The practice is that this scam journal became a popular place for publication among Serbian researchers. It just happens to be Romanian, but is part of a bigger picture of corruption in science.

    30. Re:Great idea! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      A plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel!

    31. Re:Great idea! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Yup, the whole problem is that there are some bad journals. That does not mean that the concept of journals is bad or that self publishing will improve science.

      That said, I am tempted to submit the Time Cube theory to that Romanian journal.

    32. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that way, this reminds me of Amazon product reviews. The difference is we're not using Amazon reviews to create laws and legalize products.

      I certainly wish we would use scientific papers for that purpose. It would be a massive improvement over the current system with morons doing it based on their religious beliefs or according to the wishes of their greatest financial backer.

  2. "Journal of Modern Illogical Studies" by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    The "Journal of Modern Illogical Studies" does exist, it's just called slashdot.

    1. Re: "Journal of Modern Illogical Studies" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and here I thought it was the bible...

    2. Re: "Journal of Modern Illogical Studies" by mikael · · Score: 2

      It's the sister publication to the Schroedinger Journal on Uncertainty. You have to order a copy and wait for it to arrive before you can open the delivery box and find out whether it really exists or not.

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  3. They didn't even read the conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Finally, we give interestingly looking results of a study and show how they could be presented in a visually appealing way."

  4. Life as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I suppose it's better than driving tanks into each other, but it's still not very polite.

  5. Re:Never knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    both dead more than 180 years (Weber died in 1920).

    I never noticed it was after 2100. I didn't even notice falling into a cryogenic chamber. Weird.

    Bernoulli and Laplace, both dead more than 180 years (Weber died in 1920)

  6. 'shopped 'stache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the first author photoshopped himself a moustache, nice touch

  7. I for one by cripkd · · Score: 1, Interesting

    As a Romanian I'd like this to become "a thing".
    Everyone disgusted by their country's research output should scam a Romanian journal. Or, even better, it doesn't even have to be related to science, it can be about everything. And it doesn't have to be a journal, you can all come here and shout it in the public square.
    We can become a stage for anyone who wants to express disgust about everything.

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    1. Re:I for one by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone disgusted by their country's research output should scam a Romanian journal. Or, even better, it doesn't even have to be related to science, it can be about everything. And it doesn't have to be a journal, you can all come here and shout it in the public square.

      I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to Romania, open a window, stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!

    2. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow. I think I just heard that guy.

    3. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too but I don't understand Romanian. He might have said that he has a hungry cat.

    4. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Romanian I'd like this to become "a thing".

      Everyone disgusted by their country's research output should scam a Romanian journal.

      If it does become a thing, it will eventually lead to all Romanian scientific journals becoming known for their rigorous peer review and high quality. The constant need for vigilance would lead to a lot more effort being put into evaluating submissions.

    5. Re:I for one by drainbramage · · Score: 1

      When I translated it I got something about eels in his hovercraft.

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  8. Corruption of Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Journal publishing as it exists now is not based on science, it is based on commerce and politics. We need a better system that does not shut out and scam real scientists. The sooner this kind of thing comes to light the better. Good on them!!!

    1. Re:Corruption of Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Universities as they exist now are not based on learning, but are based on commerce and politics. Could there be a connection?

  9. Re:Never knew by Thanshin · · Score: 2

    "[...] and citations to new studies by Bernoulli and Laplace, both dead more than 180 years (Weber died in 1920)."

    Bernoulli and Laplace, unlike Ortega and Gasset, are two people, which qualifies them to be "both".

  10. Where to start by oldhack · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Serbs are mad at their science establishment so they go off and ridicule Romanians? What, them East Europeans all the same?!

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    1. Re:Where to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on your reference, but the Balkans is more closely associated with the South.

  11. Re:Never knew by Chrisq · · Score: 0

    both dead more than 180 years (Weber died in 1920).

    I never noticed it was after 2100. I didn't even notice falling into a cryogenic chamber. Weird.

    That's because its talking about Bernoulli and Laplace!

  12. No Equations by bmurray7 · · Score: 1

    The obvious giveaway is the lack equations. Regardless of how aloof the reviewers are to pop culture references, the lack of equations should have forewarned a lack of solid results.

    1. Re:No Equations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The obvious giveaway is the lack equations. Regardless of how aloof the reviewers are to pop culture references, the lack of equations should have forewarned a lack of solid results."

      "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline"

  13. It's grammatics, not cryogenics by demon+driver · · Score: 0

    "Both" in that sentence refers to Bernoulli and Laplace, not Weber, which is why it doesn't say "Bernoulli, Laplace and Weber" and "the three of them".

  14. I'm not surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The state of current science publishing is rather appalling in general. I review for various conferences and journals in CS (not bad ones), and I can tell you that papers are often accepted based on author names and affiliations, and not on their contents. I can imagine that in a marginal journal in a small country the standards are even lower.

    1. Re:I'm not surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The biggest problem are the reviewers that prefer to judge a paper on interest (read hype) rather than technical soundness. Probably because they are lazy and reading the abstract to judge on interest is much less time consuming than judging it on technical soundness. That's what gets arsenic in DNA papers published in Science.

  15. Error! Reference source not found. by mrt_2394871 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is this real? (Metallurgia International's web site appears to be gone, so there's no direct proof).

    Surely even the worst kind of journal would ask that the Error! Reference source not found broken cross-references be fixed?

    1. Re:Error! Reference source not found. by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Is this real? (Metallurgia International's web site appears to be gone, so there's no direct proof).

      It used to exist, yes... as for being real or surreal, I can't say.

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  16. poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia mag. by fantomas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Poor slashdot article summary, the In Serbia magazine explains more clearly why this was done: the authors did it to ridicule the "hyperproduction of quasi-scientific works by Serbian professors that are published in the magazines of dubious quality" - they are having a pop at Serbian professors knocking out poor quality rubbish with more concern for volume than quality, and to where ever they can get them published. That said, I'd say this implies there's some definitive criticism at the low editorial quality of the Romanian publication for taking the article without identifying it as a hoax, and probably some commentary on the pressures of being a Serbian academic, looks like their universities or national funding bodies put them under pressure to produce volume and don't look too carefully at the quality when deciding how to fund their researchers.

  17. What a horrible summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This clearly has nothing to do with being "disgusted with the poor state of their country's research output". Had this really been their intention, they would have published in a Serb science journal, not a Romanian one. Though in a small country like Serbia that would have likely been a career suicide.

    That said, and having now read the links (hey at least I read them), the following is a more accurate description and should have been in the summary instead: "The professors, otherwise experts in the area of information systems, had enough seeing many colleagues easily publishing their works in magazines like this one and in this way come to the points they need to move into higher positions."

    So, it appears to be more of a case of jealousy than anything (though rightful it would seem).

  18. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That makes sense. I get a couple of 'call for papers' emails a day from dubious journals, often with such broad titles as 'The Journal of Modern Research', so it would be completely impossible for them to rate articles. The research establishment in the UK has tried quite hard over the last decade to counter this 'publish loads of crap' incentive. The old Research Assessment Exercise and the new Research Excellence Framework by which departments are assessed requires a small number (about one per year) of 'research outputs'. These can be high-impact papers, books, and so on, and in computer science can include things like published open source software (which counts as technology transfer if you can point to people using it).

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  19. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The number of "researchers" across the globe has increased by an order of magnitude in the last few decades.

    The amount of useful research done has not.

    What do you think is being done by most people...?

    Academia is something venerated only by people not in academia, who like to be associated with it. And sometimes by the younger, less secure people in academia who are not yet experienced enough to question the quality of their own work, let alone others' (this isn't a criticism - it's a standard problem of youth). There's as much bullshit here as anywhere else, you know.

  20. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    What I recall from my years in a post-Soviet Ukrainian university is a system that works like this. You need to publish N papers and a thesis to get your PhD, then publish M books and a thesis to get your Dr Math / whatever degree, then curate enough students, publish some more books and play some politics to become a Professor. All of this to increase your salary from $200/mo to $300/mo. All this work is judged purely on quantity. There are good scientists that also do something meaningful in parallel, and shameless bureaucrats who just spend the rest of their time looking for more ways to get corrupted. But no-one really takes the publishing game seriously.

  21. Publish or Perish! by physics101 · · Score: 5, Informative

    In order to get a better bang for their dollar, Serbian government made some radical changes regarding the pay grades of researchers in state universities and institutes. The most important metrics is now the number of publications in the high impact factor journals.

    In principle, the idea is not terribly bad. Academic success is being measured by some quantitative objective criteria.

    Unfortunately, in practice the system is far from ideal. The problem begins with "impact factor". Too many journals are gaming the system. This is a global international phenomenon.

    Upon the introduction of the new system, few unscrupulous Serbian researchers began exploiting the obvious loophole. Namely, there are tons of journals worldwide, who will happily take one's money and publish whatever junk one sends. For whatever reason they carry high impact factor. Few of these "scientists" built entire carriers using this shameful practice.

    The prank has been widely publicized in Serbian news outlets and more than served its purpose.

  22. Hardly news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The journal 'Metalurgia International' is a hoax in itself. I bet it has about 6 subscribers, none of whom actually read it.
    It doesn't have a web site and it's Facebook page has 3 likes, probably from the guy who publishes the journal, his wife and mistress.
    Knowing how stuff works in Romania, this is probably just a cover for receiving state funding, eg. one or a couple of guys who have a politician as a friend or relative. They keep it low and quiet as long as no one notices - just copy & paste some stuff every month and get their monthly $5k.

    I also bet that the vast majority of 'academics' or 'scientists' publish their papers (of no greater scientific value than the Serbian hoax seen here) in such obscure journals in order to get a higher score on some academic metric. Plagiarism is also norm, you just have to invest a couple of hours to shuffle the words around and maybe add a line or two to some equations. Next day you can publish your doctorate - with some friendly smiles and a thick envelope you're welcome to the club.

    They then become experts and join some state agency or committee and offer their 'expert' advice to politicians or create policies out of their asses. These guys know right from wrong, they just bullshit themselves so much that they actually believe that their case is special and they are entitled to these shortcuts, because they struggled, morally that is, and did what they had to do, because this is how things work.

    Scientists of higher moral standard, who actually spend time and effort doing real research, end up working for these guys and either become failures or give up and do something else.

    This is how shit works in most parts of the world so for me it's no surprise at all.

    1. Re:Hardly news by c0lo · · Score: 1

      The journal 'Metalurgia International' is a hoax in itself. I bet it has about 6 subscribers, none of whom actually read it.
      It doesn't have a web site ...

      True for the present, but it used to have one - the late sitemap; RIP

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  23. The obligatory Hitler Bunker scene... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is at:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3eeeG...

    Ithankyeeu....

  24. Random paper generator by Laxator2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please check this out:

    http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/

    This is a random paper generator, and its output has been accepted at a conference.
    There are plenty of low-quality conferences and publications.

    1. Re:Random paper generator by NeverWorker1 · · Score: 1

      To be fair, quite a few conferences are nothing more than somebody's trying to take your money. I get emails all the time with subjects like "Call for Papers for the Third International Symposium on ." If you submit a paper (or read the fine print), they'll inform you that at least one author must pay to attend the conference or they won't include it in the proceedings. There is, of course, no peer review; every submitted article is accepted, just so long as you pay them.

    2. Re:Random paper generator by mikael · · Score: 1

      And the commercial version allows you to automatically file patents.

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  25. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Publications are flying onto the shelves faster than the speed of light. Its ok, they contain no useful information so the laws of physics are intact.

  26. Nothing from "Journal of Irreproducible Results"? by dltaylor · · Score: 4, Interesting
  27. Not the first time rubbish gets published by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102

  28. Stifler's Mom!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The summary didn't note one of the best references: Steve Stifler, a.k.a the Stifmeister.

  29. Re:Never knew by xvan · · Score: 1

    Oh oh, there is a mistake in that paper, "Ortega y Gasset" is a surname and thus, shouldn't be translated.

  30. Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Low quality (scam?) journal accepts dubious paper... news at 11. I'm totally unsurprised that they were able to pull this off and not that concerned. There are no barriers to running a peer reviewed journal so there are plenty of low quality journals, and even more scam journals/conferences. Everyone in the fields know what the respectable paper venues are, and it's pretty easy to find out what the respectable venues are in other fields.

  31. Re:Never knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Laplace and Bernoulli have been dead more than 180 years. The mentioning of Weber is weird, but perhaps a translation issue since Weber is mentioned earlier in the sentence.

  32. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And to think, I was just ignoring them. Clearly we've all missed an opportunity to get mentioned on Slashdot.

  33. You really should read it... by canadiannomad · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know this is /. ....
    but you really should take a few peeks at the paper. It made me laugh :)

    Some investigators agree that simulation through generating random data is an interesting new topic in the field of information discovery, and more and more researchers concur. On the sceptic side, many scientists would agree that, had it not been for the necessity of providing meaningful results, many of existing solutions would be self-sufficient, and, sensing this, we set to show that randomness is indeed often used as an opportunistic “golden standard” of appositeness to further recycle the subject at hand.

    --
    Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
  34. Recycle the paper for a prank :-) by jasax · · Score: 1

    Do your beloved academic friend a prank: ask him/her to review the paper without a previous warning about the scam and see the outcome :-)

  35. So does "Mikijev zabavnik"... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    ...which they also list under references. Or at least it used to exist from 1974 until its cancellation in 2001.

    It was a comic book magazine featuring stories with Disney characters.

    [18] Silja, P. Pronalazac. "Odgovoran zadatak". in M. Meraklija,T. Luftika (eds.) Mikijev zabavnik, no. 1233 pp. 19-21, 2000.

    They referenced Goofy and Gyro Gearloose.

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  36. Scientists building carriers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, did they really built entire carriers using this shameful practice? The whole thing, including planes? :)

  37. Re:poor article summary: reason in the In Serbia m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get a couple of 'call for papers' emails a day from dubious journals, often with such broad titles as 'The Journal of Modern Research', so it would be completely impossible for them to rate articles.

    I've seen this too - in journals having such broad titles as "Science" and "Nature". There's no way they could possibly rate the articles in them. Obviously those journals are worthless.

  38. You missed some other things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Silja, P. Pronalazac
    . “
    Odgovoran zadatak”
    . in M. Meraklija,T. Luftika (eds.) Mikijev zabavnik, no. 1233 pp. 19-21, 2000 - In serbian Silja is Goofy,and "Mikijev zabavnik" is Mickey mouse magazine published in Serbia.
    As for author last name K. Drkenda, well its root comes from the manual activity of lonely males

  39. Best description - fun and accurate [VIDEO] by dragandj · · Score: 1

    As always, Hitler parody has the best and most accurate explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3eeeGvWr-8 Hitler finds out that Metalurgia International has been debunked.

  40. Re:Never knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, the problem with the paper being accepted is that they missed that typo!

  41. Re:Never knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, your reading comprehension is about as good as a Serbian academic's.

  42. Reference [18] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking about references, one of them (number 18) is actually Mickey Mouse comic with Goofy cited as the author (Serbian translation).

  43. More info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More info with names (for serbian readers): http://dropproxy.com/u/5AE/metalurgia/novo/index.html

  44. On top of all that... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    After tracking down that particular issue, I've found out that the referenced story is Gyro-less.
    It's a Goofy only story.

    So even their fake reference is referencing fake authors.

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    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens