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Pakistan Earthquake Raises New Island

schwit1 writes with news that a recent 7.8 magnitude earthquake in Pakistan killed 45 people and caused a new island to form a few hundred meters off the country's coast. The island is roughly 35 meters long, and 7-14 meters high. "Seismologists suspect the island is a temporary formation resulting from a "mud volcano," a jet of mud, sand and water that gushed to the surface as the temblor churned and pressurized that slurry under the ocean floor." Long-time residents of the area say a similar island formed in 1968 after another earthquake, but disappeared a year later. "It is clear that 'the islands are not created because the ground was ... pushed up by the earthquake,' [said geophysicist Paul Earle], but more likely it was a secondary effect of shifting sediments. He also agrees the formation appears to have been caused by a mud volcano, but added that they don't need an earthquake to set them off. There are 'mud volcanoes in Yellowstone that have not been triggered by earthquakes,' he said."

88 comments

  1. A PLACE TO PUT A FEW MILLION !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    450 million to go !!

  2. wow, by etash · · Score: 4, Funny

    Benjamin Linus moved the island again.

    1. Re:wow, by behrooz0az · · Score: 0

      So that was the nuke going off, right?

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    2. Re:wow, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linus fhtagn?

    3. Re:wow, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lie - nus or Lee - noos?

  3. PRC Will Claim the New Territory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because Pakistan has given in to the People's Republic of China (PRC) territory claims in the past, I am sure the PRC will claim this island as theirs!

    1. Re:PRC Will Claim the New Territory by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Nope if you watch this video, you can see it being claimed by about a hundred Pakistani fishermen simultaneously, which killed my excitement for a new country instantly :-(

      Presumably the last one with his hand on the island gets to keep it.

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  4. Priorities by Redmancometh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    45 people died, but the news story is about a new not-island less than the size of a football field. Nice.

    1. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And while you were writing this, another 45 people died for various reasons. You forgot to mention this...

    2. Re:Priorities by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Much more than 45 people died somewhere during the time it took you to write that post and you failed to even mention them. Nice.

    3. Re:Priorities by Trogre · · Score: 2

      Absolutely correct.

      Are we also not supposed to talk about the economic outfall as a result of the 2011 Japan earthquake and tsunami that killed many more?

      If not for this new island, that recent earthquake would not have made it to the Slashdot: News for Nerds blog at all.

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    4. Re:Priorities by jmhobrien · · Score: 2

      You are right, but that is not news for nerds and stuff that matters.

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    5. Re:Priorities by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      And while you were writing this, another 45 people died for various reasons. You forgot to mention this...

      Yeah but I didn't just post a news story about the thing that killed them, and focus on something that is non-unique, trivial sience instead.

      The guy above this post though is 100% right..it would never have made it to slashdot, and it would have been better that way. It does say "news for nerds" not "nerd news for nerds" though. It's not like nerds (at least most of them) literally only care about tech and science news.

      inc flame.

    6. Re:Priorities by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      I spelled science wrong since it's 3:20a. Not trying to margianalize scientific discovery...the significance of that island just seems considerably outweighed (as far as news is concerned) by nearly any criterion you would care to use.

    7. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one found the story of the new island quite interesting. I found about the people dying from BBC well before it came to Slashdot. Why should Slashdot repeat what the mainstream media has already told me?

    8. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      250 dead now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24222760

      Sad. But if you let every sad thing affect you badly then you would be a quivering wreck all of the time.

      Just don't become a total sociopath.

    9. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That island will be there long after the dead - or any of us - are forgotten.
      Don't be such a miserable cunt.

    10. Re:Priorities by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      If only there was some other site on the internet, where one could read about the non-scientific issues surrounding the earthquake. We could link to such a site in the summary even as we respectfully highlighted the important humanitarian issues. What a brave new world that would be.

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    11. Re:Priorities by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Actually it won't, since the article says the last similar island lasted a year.

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    12. Re:Priorities by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Did it occur to you that a post to a science and technology news site might be directed towards the scientific issues for reasons other than the profound inhumanity you have ascribed to the author?

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    13. Re:Priorities by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      45 people died, but the news story is about a new not-island less than the size of a football field. Nice.

      Big pile of mud -> Elbonia -> Dilbert -> Tech -> Stuff that matters. ;-)

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    14. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      45 people died, but the news story is about a new not-island less than the size of a football field. Nice.

      I can appreciate your sentiment. But you know what? I'm fine with /. running the story like this.

      Every other mainstream news site is covering the story from the human angle. That's their job, and it's good to see the coverage.

      But slashdot's job is to cover news for nerds. You know, the techie angle, the sciency angle, the off-the-wall angle. If Slashdot just ran a story reporting the death toll, why would anyone bother reading it here? We can already read it everywhere else.

      Slashdot runs plenty of stories that aren't a good fit for the site, and people rightfully complain about it. but please don't complain when they run a story that is a good fit. I don't want a plain old news site, I want a news for nerds site.

    15. Re:Priorities by jamesh · · Score: 1

      I for one found the story of the new island quite interesting. I found about the people dying from BBC well before it came to Slashdot. Why should Slashdot repeat what the mainstream media has already told me?

      What's interesting in this case is not that Slashdot is repeating what the mainstream media already told me (first I heard about the earthquake was a story about the island in the national news), but that Slashdot is repeating what the mainstream media already told me without a 24-168 hour lag, and is only reporting it once.

      Slashdot used to be great because it would have stories in it that the mainstream media might decide weren't interesting to their audience. The problem now is that the mainstream media thinks _everything_ is interesting. I still go to Slashdot because I don't have to filter out stories about how the forehead of the next top model is too big, another celebrity going off the rails, and a list of things I should never say to my boss.

    16. Re:Priorities by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      I just thought it was a hilarious case of weird priorities. I honestly am desensetized at this point since you know, the news.

      It would be kind of like reading an article that says "bomb goes off in boston during marathon, yields new insights into ballistics physics"

    17. Re:Priorities by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      "News for nerds" and "stuff that matters" are completely subjective. Sit the fuck down.

    18. Re:Priorities by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      You say that as though they haven't emphasised the humanitarian impact in literally the first sentence of the summary. The author's priorities are in the right place. You don't have to ignore everything but the humanitarian consequences to be showing compassion for them.

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    19. Re:Priorities by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      *A four-alarm fire in Downtown Moscow clears way for a glorious new tractor factory*

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    20. Re:Priorities by onyxruby · · Score: 2

      People die every single day, 107 people die every single minute of every single day. Earthquakes also happen fairly routinely in certain parts of the world. When they are large they are covered by the news, in particular their death tolls are well covered to the point many are saturated.

      I understand you may not care for what I say, but just try to get the TV or major newspaper to cover an average person who died in an average way after they have died. The bottom line is that people simply don't care about people they don't know - it's not newsworthy. Death only becomes newsworthy when the person is (in)famous or dies in a notable way.

      However the creation of a new island from an earthquake if far from an everyday occurrence. It is also notably something that strikes a scientific bell with a community that generally has at least a token interest in science.

    21. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but if some human extinction causing event happens 11 months from now, he'll have the last laugh.

    22. Re:Priorities by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      Death only becomes newsworthy when the person is (in)famous or dies in a notable way.

      However the creation of a new island from an earthquake if far from an everyday occurrence.

      s/(in)famous/known to them/

    23. Re:Priorities by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      People die every single day, 107 people die every single minute of every single day. Earthquakes also happen fairly routinely in certain parts of the world. When they are large they are covered by the news, in particular their death tolls are well covered to the point many are saturated.

      I understand you may not care for what I say, but just try to get the TV or major newspaper to cover an average person who died in an average way after they have died. The bottom line is that people simply don't care about people they don't know - it's not newsworthy. Death only becomes newsworthy when the person is (in)famous or dies in a notable way.

      Excellent! You're only about 3 steps of logic away from solving the Fermi Paradox.

    24. Re:Priorities by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Yes, becasue geological events are interesting.

      Death of people that far removed from ones personal experience, while tragic, doesn't exactly make people pause with their day.

      If it did, we would all go crazy.

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    25. Re:Priorities by geekoid · · Score: 1

      The Fermi Paradox isn't.

      It's based on the tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of a fraction of the universe we have explored,
      It assume interstellar travel is possible
      It assume other civilization didn't expand and then die.
      It assumes it takes less resources to get to the next star is less then available resources
      It assume other species would want to expand.

      Until we ahve :
      A) Sent people to another planet around a different star
      B) those people are able to be self sustains and thrive
      C) Invent materials that will last millions of years and still be recognizable as created by an intelligent species

      You can't even have the paradox.

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    26. Re:Priorities by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Yes, but wouldn't it be nice to have a site where we can talk about the interesting events and science.

      There are media outlets galore that have in depth look at the dead people.
      Far less with any decent discussion about the geological events in detail.

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    27. Re:Priorities by petertrapasso · · Score: 1

      Viola! - Pakistan new island: 7.7 earthquake kills 300, island rises from Arabian sea (Video) http://www.examiner.com/article/pakistan-new-island-7-7-earthquake-kills-300-island-rises-from-arabian-sea

    28. Re:Priorities by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Big pile of mud ->

      Stuff that splatters -> an insensitive clod.

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    29. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      45 people died, but the news story is about a new not-island less than the size of a football field. Nice.

      Linked article:
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/24/us-pakistan-quake-idUSBRE98N0HJ20130924 headline "Quake kills 45 in Pakistan, creates new island in sea"
      More recent article:
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/25/us-pakistan-quake-toll-idUSBRE98O04220130925 headline "Toll from Pakistan quake rises to 208 people - official"

      Nice that you got an "Insightful" rating for being completely wrong about the news story. Perhaps you meant the title of the story on Slashdot, and not the news story like you claim.
      And just FYI, the death toll is up to 208, 45 was just initial reports.
      But I guess since someone died, we're not allowed to discuss anything else at all related to the event which killed them.

    30. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But slashdot's job is to cover news for nerds. You know, the techie angle, the sciency angle, the off-the-wall angle. If Slashdot just ran a story reporting the death toll, why would anyone bother reading it here? We can already read it everywhere else.

      The article it links to talks first about the people, then the island. It's just another case of Dice putting up a crappy headline and the usual Trolls rushing to talk trash without even following the link.

    31. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      45 people died, but the news story is about a new not-island less than the size of a football field. Nice.

      Not people. Pakistanis.

    32. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Viola! - Pakistan new island: 7.7 earthquake kills 300, island rises from Arabian sea (Video)

      Clarinet! Pakistan's new island video mumble mumble!

  5. Sandy Island by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Finally Sandy Island actually exists - just a wee little bit offset to the north...

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  6. Re:I declare this Island to be Cobra Island by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're the Anonymous Coward, and I'm the cure.

  7. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a big difference between Palestine and Pakistan.

  8. God Save the Rebelion + Please Send Condoms to PK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You obviously have never met Donald Trump. Frankly writing, once the U.S. of A. went off the gold standard (thank you Mr. Nixon) it has been nothing but hand waving and butt spreading. It is a WS conspiracy. But then every schoolboy, even in Pakistan, knows that.

  9. Re:Meanwhile by Chrisq · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    There's a big difference between Palestine and Pakistan.

    A lot of similarities too, they are both sharia hell-holes where you can get murdered for not being a Muslim

  10. Re:Meanwhile by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

    I'm not big on bashing religion (or religion bashing non-believers which is far more common), but that is a funny damn joke why are people downvoting it?

  11. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No they're really not. No more than the US is a place you can get shot for just walking down the street -- you can make the case that it's true, but there's a lot of hyperbole in it that other people won't pick up on. If you haven't been there, or don't know people from there, stop trolling. It perpetuates myths about the world that just aren't true.

  12. Dregs of journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This exaggeration where a mundane non story is made into a misleading sensation is truly rot. This has been done before on slashdot where a bit of sand and mud temporarily pops up till the tide and waves disperse it. Misusing the word "island" to make it sound amazing is just a wee step down from hurling a hubcap into the air and calling it a flying saucer.

    1. Re:Dregs of journalism by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I feel sorry for your inability to get excited about geology. You know that it's a fool that plays it cool by making his world a little colder.

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    2. Re:Dregs of journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this "misusing the word 'island'"? It *is* an island, albeit a temporary one. And while mud volcanoes are known from many parts of the world, having its eruption tied directly to a specific earthquake event isn't a common occurrence, let alone forming an island.

    3. Re:Dregs of journalism by Cyfun · · Score: 1

      Nahhhh nahh nahh nah nah nah nah!

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  13. Uh oh. by RivenAleem · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tensions are rising between Ankh-Morpork and Al Khali

    1. Re:Uh oh. by ryzvonusef · · Score: 1

      +1 for Leshp reference :D

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    2. Re:Uh oh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great reference. I just finished re-reading Jingo last weekend. Life imitates art.

  14. Re:Meanwhile by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No they're really not. No more than the US is a place you can get shot for just walking down the street -- you can make the case that it's true, but there's a lot of hyperbole in it that other people won't pick up on. If you haven't been there, or don't know people from there, stop trolling. It perpetuates myths about the world that just aren't true.

    Complete rubbish. Things like politicians being shot for opposing blashpemy laws,Kidnapping of Christian and Hindu girls for forced marriage and conversion don't happen in the West. I suggest that unless you have never lived in an Islamic majority country you shut up about "it being just the same in the US".

  15. American Units by rossdee · · Score: 1

    " a new not-island less than the size of a football field."

    Whats the size in cricket pitches? After all we are talking about Pakistan, cricket is their national sport.

  16. Re:Meanwhile by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    You're the guy who made the dubious rhetorical move of dubbing two entire nations "hell-holes".

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  17. Re:Meanwhile by Chrisq · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    You're the guy who made the dubious rhetorical move of dubbing two entire nations "hell-holes".

    believe me they are

  18. Re:New line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did it look like this?

  19. Re:Meanwhile by Sique · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And in both places you can be murdered for being a Muslim. So what?

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  20. SHHHH!!!! by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

    Nobody mention Atlantis!

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    1. Re:SHHHH!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Climate Change

  21. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yep, that doesn't happen. Politicians aren't shot for opposing blasphemy laws. By the way, as your link so elegantly mentions, Shahbaz Bhatti was not killed by the government, but a terrorist organization -- and government declared three days of mourning in response. It's not like there haven't been assassinations of politicians in other countries.

    In the US, instead, tourists get shot for walking down the street, because some people were bored. Let us now condemn all bored people in response!

    It's not the same as the US. But there are wonderful things throughout the Islamic world.

  22. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where exactly is this nation of Palestine you speak of?

  23. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hole implies lower altitude, to me. Whereas Pakistan only has the second-highest mountain in the world, and I know many people that have plans to go climbing there someday. Oh, I see, you were just trying to make a political point and impose your values on the rest of the world.

    By the way, over in Palestine, 1 in 4 people are not Muslim. Friends there tell me that the biggest worry there these days is that the US will bomb Syria and have a war break over the borders.

  24. Maybe this will put it in perspective for you by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1
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  25. Re:Meanwhile by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    Where exactly is this nation of Palestine you speak of?

    I apologise for repeating the original poster's inaccurate terminology of the original poster, I should have corrected it to "Palestinian territories"

  26. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, I don't believe you.

  27. Re:American Exceptionalism and Moral Superiority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you know where the phrase "exceptionalism" came from? It's from the exceptional idea that a people can rule themselves. This is hated by the left and what little "exceptionalism" still remains is being eroded day-by-day as we become more and more like Europeans: serfs, subjects to their government as opposed to citizens with elected officials being our employees.

    The fact that few were outraged by the statement: "We have to pass the bill to know what's in it" says it all.

  28. Pakistan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a recent 7.8 magnitude earthquake in Pakistan killed 45 people

    I think you're using the term 'people' a little overzealously. This is Pakistan we're talking about.

  29. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No more than the US is a place you can get shot for just walking down the street

    Yea in areas with a lot of darkies. Protip: stay out of Detroit, Baltimore and Oakland, you'll be fine.

    Try avoiding them in Pakistan. Country smells like shit, it is full of crooks and even the educated people are obscenely rude. Only redeeming factor is that you can hit 'em with your car and just pay your way out of any trouble when the cops show up to scrape the guy off the road.

  30. R'lyeh is rising and you are all so calm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

  31. Re:American Exceptionalism and Moral Superiority by nucrash · · Score: 1

    We can rule over our self and wipe out anyone who stands in our way. Just ask the Native Americans. If we get bored or feel our superiority is in question, we just go bomb another country into submission. Just ask the Philippines, Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Guam, Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. But if our moral imperative is in question, look at all the quality nation building we have done over the years. Just ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Iran, Cuba, and Columbia. We even have an outstanding relationship with the local populations where we place our military bases. Just ask Okinawa. Who cares how we treat our own people, they should be able to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps so that they can get all of those government kickbacks and pay zero in taxes just like the top one percent. But we have had more new millionaires in the past 30 years, even though that was almost two generations ago and we figured out how to lie through statistics to make income mobility look possible when the reality is less than ever. But hey, we do just fine ruling ourselves. As long as we can exploit cheap labor and blow up a few countries from time to time, exceptional is just what we are.

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  32. Re:Meanwhile by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Kidnapping of Christian and Hindu girls for forced marriage and conversion don't happen in the West

    Girls most certainly are kidnapped to be forced into marriages in the West. But then they pack them off to the East for the actual marriage. But lots of other girls go missing too. Where do you think they're going? Some of them are being killed, some are going into slavery...

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  33. In other words,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The geophysical equivalent of a zit.

  34. Any day now ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... an Italian cruise ship will run into it.

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  35. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Pirate Bay servers moved again!

  36. mud volcano by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "mud volcano" and no tubgirl references?

  37. Really? You have to drag Global Warming into this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? You have to drag Global Warming into this?

  38. Re:American Exceptionalism and Moral Superiority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as we can exploit cheap labor and blow up a few countries from time to time, exceptional is just what we are.

    If the US follows the Obama mantra much longer it will distain from this being the case. More and more. Your concept of Exceptionalism falters. Consider the proliferation of Syria and the peace talks with Iran. If this was the Bush Administration the troops would have already been on the ground.

    Once the world sees how weak and decadent the US military has become. "Wanting to talk it out peacefully". When the US's ability to blow up other countries merely becomes more of just a media "side show" than a reality, then its ability to "exploit cheap labor" (as you so narcissistically phrase it) goes out the window along with it.

  39. Re:Really? You have to drag Global Warming into th by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    Don't make it bad. Take a sad song, and make it better.

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