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NSA Director Wants Threat Data Sharing With Private Sector
Trailrunner7 writes "While Congress and the technology community are still debating and discussing the intelligence gathering capabilities of NSA revealed in recent months, the agency's director, Gen. Keith Alexander, is not just defending the use of these existing tools, but is pitching the idea of sharing some of the vast amounts of threat and vulnerability data the NSA and other agencies possess with organizations in the private sector. Speaking at a time of great scrutiny of the agency and its activities, Alexander said that the NSA, along with other federal agencies such as the FBI, Department of Homeland Security and CIA, need to find a way to share the attack and vulnerability information they collect in order to help key private organizations react to emerging threats. Though the idea is still in its formative stages, Alexander said that it potentially could include companies in foreign countries, as well. 'We need the authority for us to share with them and them to share with us. But because some of that information is classified, we need a way to protect it,' Alexander said during a keynote speech at the Billington Cybersecurity Summit here Wednesday. 'Right now, we can't see what's happening in real time. We've got to share it with them, and potentially with other countries.'"
So if I'm a company listed on the NASDAQ, do I get bump in my stock price for being in the NSA's "circle of trust"?
And if so, what incentives does that give to the NSA, to companies, and to traders?
He simply believes he is a higher class of human being than the rest of us.
No wonder it's hard to explain to such people that the cattle doesn't like being fire branded.
Is this guy for real? He's talking about real-time information sharing, obviously with no judicial oversight of any sort, rubber-stamped or otherwise.
FTFA: “Right now, we can’t see what’s happening in real time. We’ve got to share it with them, and potentially with other countries.”
Speaking to a crowd of mainly industry and government workers, Alexander appealed to them to help support the information sharing concept and any legislation that may be required to implement it.
Private sector data companies don't have a leak-proof record either http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/09/data-broker-giants-hacked-by-id-theft-service/
If these goons want to see what the worst threat to freedom is they should simply install mirrors throughout all NSA buildings.
Sky subscribers are morons. They pay to be advertised at !
How the hell is this not industrial espionage? And then you expect me to host my backups in a US-based cloud or use US-based services like Office365? Apparantly these NSA-approved encryption techniques dont work so good when you're trying to shield from the NSA.
How about this cloud-based electronic laboratory-notebook software that is being pitched to pharma companies. These contain all the sensitive data before the patents are filed. Will that data be "shared" with my competition as well?
If an experiment works, something has gone wrong.
It's also very hard to vote for political appointees.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
But it is easier to vote for people who can fire appointees.
And who can pass laws first to make them fireable very quickly, if necessary.
The West has become as ideological as the East, and it's fucking depressing. It's time to use the government to serve not the corporations, not a mythical immutable class - but the people.
You voted for them!
No. I didn't. And even if I had, I don't believe democratically elected representatives represent their voters regardless of how is democracy implemented.
When it comes to representative democracy, it's impossible to emphasise enough that this can all be changed by voting differently.
That is false and naive.
As a simple proof, I challenge you to change it all by voting differently.
The mechanisms are there.
Nope.
So, ideologues, toadies and milquetoasts - please all go fuck yourselves and regenerate as something better - because it's time to build a society where there's a more equitable balance of power.
Thank you for your useful input.
representative democracy= we make promises, you vote, we enter into office.
Immediate benefit for them, promise of later benefit for you.
Hmmm sounds like the most classical blueprint for a scam.
You should vote PROGRAMS, whose points become law overriding everything else, with the parliament devoted to harmonize it into the existing situation and the government devoted to apply.
And emergency laws should last 3 months.
Or direct democracy. Of course those in powers make sure we as people are not mature enough for direct democracy. We should adopt it as a form of punishment against our lack of spine.
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And emergency laws should last 3 months.
I believe some "emergency laws" shouldn't exist for any period of time; namely ones that violate people's rights (e.g. the USA PATRIOT ACT).
Da derp dee derp da teedly derpee derpee dum. Rated PG-13.
urine would test positive for crack, smack, uppers, downers, outers, inners, horse tranquilizers, cow paralyzers, blue bombers, green goofers, yellow submarines and LSD Mach 3.
"One of the things you learn from years of dealing with drug people, is that you can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug. Especially when it's waving a razor-sharp hunting knife in your eye."
Hunter S. Thompson (RIP)
Gosh, thanks. That must be why the other ships call me Meatfucker -- GCU Grey Area (Eccentric)
Obama? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQlsS9diBs
And the descent into fascism is complete.
The police have automatic weapons and battle-armour. How exactly, will private organisations, who already give all their customer data to the NSA, control terrorist threats? Thirteen years ago the US government socialized security services to make the country 'safe'. But now the NSA wants to privatize intelligence services! Three months ago they wanted to sack (IT support) contractors in the interests of national 'security'.
In Australia, a major rigged-games scandal has appeared. So sporting clubs are demanding access to intelligence from the federal police (US-ians think FBI).
Its not like the NSA doesn't have past form on passing industrial espionage on european companies to American ones...
Was thinking the same thing. Why should I believe this is anything but some sort of Trojan?
If not in the classical computer sense of a program that appears to do one thing and also does another, but in the more general sense as some way to help get me to let them in the door. If nothing else I am sure they won't be sharing the vulnerabilities they are actively using.
Sorry NSA but you have lost trust; its going to take years proving you can be a good actor before I'd advocate my security team collaborate with them. And so far I have not seen them even really start something like a real reform.
In summary -- Screw you Feds.
Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
Every NSA employees home address, all the records on them published to a PUBLIC website and updated daily with their credit card records and purchasing habits.
They will gladly agree as they have nothing to hide.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
He has violated the Constitution of the United States tens of thousands of times, without repercussions. He has consistently lied to Congress and the American people. He has created a rogue agency that threatens our very democracy and therefore represents a Clear and Present Danger to our freedom. I fear him and his lackies far more than Al Qaeda.
He and his followers are the ones who should be super max for the rest of their lives. Or executed. Either works for me.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
From personal experience, here is how this proposal will work out. Private orgs will share data with the NSA, the NSA will then share nothing with the private orgs because everything of any interest is classified. Anyone who has attended any conference with a presenter from the NSA has seen this in action. Really, the fact that the proposal isn't simply to make the information public shows the contemptuous disregard the NSA has for the public.
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Or direct democracy.
Show me one instance of direct democracy not being a complete and total failure.
A person may not be stupid, but people are. They'll vote themselves lower taxes and more social services, then you end up with California.
No thank you.
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Then you're ignorant of how the world works. Plain and simple.
You got scammed and you still won't admit to it or recognize it. Thats a problem you need to overcome before you'll do anything productive in a political sense.
You voted for a marketing slogan. WTF does 'CHANGE' even mean? You got change. Not the change you thought he was magically referring to without him ever actually saying what 'change' was. The US political system just lets ignorance like your own win out. Its not the systems fault, its the fact that most people are like you and too lazy to look at what a politicians history has been rather than what their marketing slogan is.
Had you bothered to look at Obama's congressional voting record before you voted, nothing that has happened would be a surprise to you. But instead, you voted for OMFGBBQ CHANGE!
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Exactly.
NSA so very much wants to be the major Agency of the United Corporations of America. To hell with the citizenry.
Will
This has nothing to do with terrorist. This is about business. The American people are getting ripped off and people want to do something about it. How to prevent change? Spy on everyone and head off any political moment to change market and legal rules. The corps asked for this spying technology. This whole thing stinks of fascism.