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Come Try Out Slashdot's New Design (In Beta)

Slashdot's biggest redesign effort ever is now in beta and you're invited to help guide it. This redesign has been shaped by feedback from community members over the past few months (a big thanks to those of you who participated in our alpha testing phase!), and we'd like your thoughts on it, too. This new design is meant to be richer but also simpler to use, while maintaining the spirit of what Slashdot is all about: News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. Read on for the details of what's included, or read this blog post. Update: 10/02 19:16 GMT by T : Since this post went live, we've been reading through the comments below as well as your (hundreds!) of emails. These are all valuable, as we continue to implement our current features into the Beta. Keep 'em coming; we love the feedback. Please keep in mind that this is called Beta for a reason; we've still folding in lots of improvements. One important thing to bear in mind is that the images are optional: check out the Classic mode by clicking on the view selection widget (just above the stories) on the Beta page. What's in the Beta?
  • Cleaner, simpler homepage design with option to view stories in three different layouts (Standard, Classic and Headline View)
  • More community-promoted content in the All Stories view
  • Improved profile pages to give you a snapshot of other community members
  • Better, more prominent filters to view stories in different dimensions
  • Easier browsing of popular topics straight from the main page.

Please keep in mind that this is a beta and some features are not yet available or fully baked. For features not yet available, you'll see a "Coming Soon" bubble if you hover your mouse over those areas of the site. Here are a few key areas we are still working on:

  • Sign up
  • moderation
  • story submission
  • replying to comments

Update: 10/01 20:54 GMT by S : For those of you who would rather browse Slashdot without pictures, click the icon at the top right of the story column, and switch to Classic View.

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  1. Re:collapsable comments by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 5, Informative

    Agreed

    And the redesigned nesting layout makes it harder to follow threads. I'm not exactly sure what others are seeing but my current layout preference has comments nested with clear boxes/lines delineating each, which makes telling what nesting level they belong to.

  2. pluses and minuses by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well it certainly looks more modern and pretty.
    But the part where 70% of my monitor is blank white space sure isn't a step forward.
    And not being able to see any comment info on the home page is another step backwards.
     
    But it doesn't look antiquated. That's sure a plus. It looks like the default wordpress theme.
     
    Hey it's like a hot sorority chick! Sexy as hell for an hour. Then frustrating and mostly empty. But hey it shows real well at homecoming.

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  3. Use 100% width please by Tepar · · Score: 5, Informative

    This layout does not auto-adjust to the width of the browser. It is responsive for smaller screens, but for large ones, it wastes space. I hope you're also working on the comment filtering, because I don't see those controls anywhere.

  4. Re:One request by Spillman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree. As someone who doesnt have the best vision and generally uses Ctrl-+ a few times in web browsers , I can assure, all those layers start to break and it looks terrible. I've been a happy slashdot reader for 12 years, please don't make me somewhere else. Thanks!

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  5. Fixed-width text areas are brain-dead. by jcr · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I make the window wider, I don't want to just get more blank space.

    Seriously guys, this is pretty simple stuff. Get it right.

    -jcr

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  6. Re:Gonna miss Slashdot by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dude, it's a freaking mailto: link, if your system is setup to use Outlook to handle mailto: it's nobodies fault but your own!

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  7. Re:How about the old design? by jerpyro · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree. The current iteration on the homepage is bad enough, but at least it lets you expand the page to full width, and doesn't have somewhat related stock photos taking up space on the page. I used to read Fark before they switched to a fixed-width, graphical intensive layout -- and now it's useless. When I go to slashdot, I want it to load fast, be free of BS and give me the latest without having to skip stupid stuff. If I wanted to see pictures and horiscopes and shit I'd set my browser to MSN.com.

    Please, less with the attempted eye candy and more with the news for nerds. You shouldn't be trying to appeal to mass-market web designs, half of us still subscribe to USENET for God's sake.
     

  8. One giant step forward to trendiness . . . by Jimbo+God+of+Unix · · Score: 5, Informative

    One giant leap backwards for readability.

    Come on, really? It's not a "media" site, it's a readers/posters site.

  9. Re:Link broken? by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

    I opened it. Unlike the current design, it did not scale to fit my 1400x1050 screen, leaving large whitespace borders on both edges. If that's what it does on a 4:3 screen with a narrower horizontal resolution than many modern widescreen "high definition" displays, then this is a bad thing.

    Additionally there was less content on the initial screen than there is on the current design. Much of the time I skim the headlines, if I find one I find relevant I immediately read the blurb. If the blurb appeals then I follow the link(s) or read the comments. This new layout doesn't offer as much content on a given screen, and one thing I learned in design in general, if you don't grab your audience with little more than a glimpse, then you've lost your audience.

    I did design for some ads for some fandom events, and within the form factor of the ad I had to answer who/what why, and when, and to a lesser extent, where. I had to name the event, give the viewer a reason to go to the event, give the date for the event, and for events that weren't in the normal venues or where the venue itself was an advantage, name the venue. All of this information needed to be conveyed in little-more than a snapshot.

    While Slashdot or any bulletin board system is not the same as an ad, it is important to present the frame of the discussion in a format that allows the casual browser to see the important stuff pop out instantly. The current layout, with different presentations, reverse colors for somethings, etc, works to do that. The new format didn't give me the impression of being well organized in that regard. One needs the headline to convey the important "grabber' in a way that actually commands attention. The new system didn't do that for me.

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  10. Re:Sigh by koreanbabykilla · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a 4 digit UID as well, I have been coming here every day for as long as I can remember. Without the ability to keep slashdot the way I like I really may stop coming. Hopefully someone that matters reads these and at least leaves me a way to do so. More power to em to redesign all they want for the young whipersnappers, but better leave us old folks some way to use the old way or we will be gone.

  11. Low Res by gd2shoe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unlike the current design, it did not scale to fit my 1400x1050 screen, leaving large whitespace borders on both edges. If that's what it does on a 4:3 screen with a narrower horizontal resolution than many modern widescreen "high definition" displays, then this is a bad thing.

    It also doesn't work well on my laptop 1024x768 screen. (Yeah, I know that's low, but It's a laptop. People are still using this resolution, making it a good minimum gauge.)

    The font is larger, but the real problem is the right-hand panel that takes up too much room. This compresses the comments, forcing them to take more vertical space and making the conversation harder to follow. The font size and extra whitespace give a more open feel, but they exacerbate the conversation problem.

    Remember, Slashdot comments aren't loved because we can read what others have written. They're loved because we can hold conversations. Anything that detracts from being able to hold or follow conversations will make Slashdot less popular.

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    1. Re:Low Res by skegg · · Score: 5, Informative

      * Same here: excessive white-space down the left & right-hand side of the page.
      * As others have said, the presentation of comments is off-putting.
      * Images at the top of each article are a waste of space; dump them and display the full bloody summary instead !

      Let me put it this way:
      I used to visit Engadget a couple of times a day (I currently visit Slashdot more often). However after Engadget adopted their current design, I'd say I now visit them about once every 1 or 2 weeks. I love the content, I just detest how it's being presented to me. And now you guys are going down the same path ?!

      You've been told. The rest is up to you.

  12. ABSO-FSCKING-LUTELY NOT! by ewhac · · Score: 5, Informative
    You are forbidden from deploying this design. Dear $(GOD), what the hell is the matter with you? Who told you this was a good idea? Which three-pleat consultant said that this highly technical readership wanted this site to look like a fluffy blog with fscktons of whitespace? How much money did s/he take from you? Have you caught them yet?

    For those of you who would rather browse Slashdot without pictures, click the icon at the top right of the story column, and switch to Classic View.

    Does. Not. Work.

    This is real, pathetically simple, Mr. S:

    • Install Firefox.
    • Install NoScript plugin. Leave at default settings.
    • Surf to your site.

    If your site does not operate correctly using this browser setup, --== YOUR SITE IS BROKEN!!==-- Please do not assume that the users on this of all sites are fscking morons who leave their browsers in an insecure state and happily execute just Any Damned Script. You're lucky I'm willing to whitelist fsdn.com, but just who the fsck is rpxnow.com, or ooyala.com?

    Scrap the whole damned thing and start over. Better still: Don't start over. It's fine the way it is.