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Flowering Plants' Roots Pushed Back 100M Years
Rambo Tribble writes "Frontiers in Plant Science has published research which suggests that angiosperms' origins are a lot older than we have thought; 100 million years older, in fact. This puts the roots of these plants in the Triassic, not the Cretaceous, as previously thought."
Those are some deep roots. Would hate to have to try to dig those roots out with a trowel.
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That FSM just makes it look like it is 100 Millon years old...
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Just imagine how old these plants will be in another 50 years!
Clearly science is always correcting itself, it cannot be infallible, but is prone to mistakes that they are always fixing. A flawed system than cannot be trusted.
Unlike religion, which is never ever proven wrong. That makes it reliable and trustworthy. It's even self-certifying.
Yes, let's all worship angiosperms.
Yes, let's all worship angiosperms.
That does have it's merits, for example we can prove they exist and unlike many gods they are nice to have in the house and garden.
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Apple trees are angiosperms.
The Tree of Knowledge is an apple tree.
Eris throws an apple in the central Discordian myth.
And outside of that, other trees feature prominently in various myths (Yggdrasil is a yew tree, tree roots resemble the FSM's noodly appendages...)
I think we have a pretty healthy respect for certain angiosperms, even if they're not outright worshipped as a group.
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And just like other gods they seem to be obsessed with sex.
I haven't seen a good argument that flowers and pollen are closely related. It could be argued that flowers were an adaptation to flying pollen collectors, as crawling pollen-collecting insects don't need visual assistance to find the pollen end of a plant.
Pheromone-like advertisement techniques are probably better (more economical) for crawlers being that most crawling insects don't have good distant vision. However, flying insects are moving too quickly to use chemical signals effectively such that bright petals are more useful to them.
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Sex with relatives, at that.
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What they found was pollen, of a type normally found later in the fossil record. That they found a variety of different forms of pollen suggests that angiosperms had been around long enough to have diversified already, so this is probably not the last that we'll hear about this.
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That remains entirely open to debate.
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Here we report on angiosperm-like pollen and Afropollis from the Anisian (Middle Triassic, 247.2–242.0 Ma) of a mid-latitudinal site in Northern Switzerland. Small monosulcate pollen grains with typical reticulate (semitectate) sculpture, columellate structure of the sexine and thin nexine show close similarities to early angiosperm pollen known from the Early Cretaceous.
I think this sprained my brain.
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This is clearly liberal propaganda intended to brainwash children and the main reason why our children are home-schooled where they receive a proper Christian education in line with the teachings of the Bible.
Ranked Funny here but I've seen religious folks say that and completely believe it. Were you to post it to a forum filled with ultra-religious folks, it would get ranked Insightful and would be followed with comment after comment saying how this definitely proves how science is wrong because it changes while religion is right because it doesn't change at all ever*.
* Ignore all those times over the centuries when religion has changed. Those never happened. Not at all. Everything's always been the way it is right now. Saying different is heresy!
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Prove religion wrong or prove science right.
I heard something different in the 70's so I refuse to believe this new 'theory'.
I like that every time an evolution article comes about somebody has to use it as an occasion to mock religion. I find it amazingly telling how unimpressive and fallacious the arguments against religion seem to be.
Most are too proud to let their faith in evolution be shaken, but I challenge you to watch this with an open mind. You might come to a new conclusion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ
There go parts of the Time Spike plot, I guess.
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The Tree of Knowledge is more correctly thought to have been a pomegranate tree, IIRC my bible history class correctly, since apples are relatively new on the world. The bible doesn't actually specify. /nitpick
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I think I heard that once! Oh well. Still an angiosperm.
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One day, we were on the lawn, where a maple tree and a white pine tree grow. I asked the students which were more closely related: The maple and the pine tree, or the maple and the grass? I could not convince most of them that the 2 flowing plants were more closely related. Most insisted that being trees, they were closely related. No wonder we have trouble teaching kids science.
Since yew trees (Taxus) are gymnosperms, that kind of queers your proposed theology, unless you accept the more mainstream doctrine that Yggdrasil is an ash (Fraxinus). Also, don't forget that His Noodly Appendages are derived from wheat and the sacramental beverages are made from barley and grapes.
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Note to self: take actual taxonomy course.
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All angiosperms are sacred
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Of course, Monty Python revealed to us that sperm in general is sacred: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Most are too proud to let their faith in evolution be shaken
One doesn't need faith. The experiments establishing evolution are well known and can be reproduced by you.
I like that every time somebody makes a mocking statement about the conflict of religion and how many advocates come up with fallacious reasoning, that somebody has to come and defend poor oppressed religion actually is. I find it amazingly revealing how unimpressive and fallacious the arguments presented by the advocates of religion and so-called faith actually are.
Here watch this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbOEknbi4gQ
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The Tree of Knowledge is an apple tree.
No, it was not. Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden to keep them away from the tree of life, they weren't supposed to eat from either that or the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (NOT the "tree of knowledge") that they had taken a bite from. The two trees were as complimentary as a yin to a yang; the knowledge of good and evil is the knowledge of pain and death. So you had the tree of life and the tree of death, and last time I saw, Apples weren't poisonous.
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But I have allergies to your new deities, you insensitive clod!
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...and as another commenter noted, the tree was probably meant to be read as a pomegranate tree anyway. Still an angiosperm!
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There are many suggestions about what the fruit was. The Bible (western Christian version, ignoring things like Book of Enoch) just does not have any description that could help identify it. Apple is a western idea, probably from the similarity in sounds from Latin, but other suggestions are pomegranite, grape, fig, mushroom, and even meat. If one were to take it literally, then it's probably something unique to that one tree alone and not a common species to be found elsewhere.
and last time I saw, Apples weren't poisonous.
They were in a different fairy tale...
The long-winded video you link to, takes a bunch of people who aren't specialised in evolutionary biology, trips them up, and then uses this as a basis to assert that creationism is real. The remainder of the video uses similar pseudo-logic, ending with an advertising pitch. Pfffft.
Look, just because you demonstrate that a certain bunch of city folk don't understand how to run a dairy farm, doesn't mean cows don't exist, and it certainly doesn't mean I'm going to believe you know how to run a cattle ranch, no matter how much gloss you put on your fancy investment brochure.
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I understand what you are saying, but in today's world scientists are looked upon as God's holy prophets who ARE infallible. While anyone who sees the universe as evidence of divine intention is automatically called a faggot, and lumped in with people who think the earth is 6000 years old. The debate is really old. I just wish people would use their own mind and senses to make a judgement. But instead of thinking or learning the science on their own, they are just apeing the opinions of the holy scientists, and considering themselves enlightened and thoughtful in the process.
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Well, it was a fruit tree so yeah, it was probably an angiosperm. Are there any fruit trees that that aren't?
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Don't forget the Christmas tree and it's religious origins. (Hint: Not Christian.)
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I don't think so, given that angiosperms are (all?) flowering plants. Fruits tend to require flowers first.
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Actually, conifers aren't angiosperms, so the standard modern Christmas tree doesn't qualify. (It's a narrower category than I first assumed.)
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While anyone who sees the universe as evidence of divine intention is automatically called a faggot, and lumped in with people who think the earth is 6000 years old.
To be fair, they are usually guilty of pretty wooden thinking and attitudes...
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