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AMD Brings 3D GPU Documentation Up To Date

jones_supa writes "Things are starting to look even better for the status of open specifications for AMD Radeon HD hardware. AMD's Alex Deucher announced via his personal blog that programming guides and register specifications on the 3D engines for the Evergreen, Northern Islands, Southern Islands, and Sea Islands GPUs are now in the NDA-free public domain. These parts represent the 3D engines on the Radeon HD 5000 through Radeon HD 8000 series graphics processors."

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  1. Steam by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Valve seems to have stirred things up a bit. I know some of this was in the works before, but the timing is nice.

  2. That the complete set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Better late than never, eh. This really needs to be standard practice across the industry.

  3. Bring it on NVidia by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2

    Try and compete with this and open up all your specs too.

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    1. Re:Bring it on NVidia by Ultra64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, it will take time to sort out the legal issues.

      But if AMD can do it, so can nVidia.

    2. Re:Bring it on NVidia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      They aren't releasing their driver code. It's just documentation. nVidia can do that just as easily.

    3. Re:Bring it on NVidia by marcosdumay · · Score: 2

      Well, that's you. I, on the other hand, do care a lot if I can use my GPUs with unmodified kernels or not, and once one good enough choice has a free driver, I'll certainly stop buying ones that lack it.

    4. Re:Bring it on NVidia by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 2

      The problem with being solely dependent on binary drivers is that hardware vendors eventually stop supporting older hardware on newer OSes. With a viable Open Source driver, it is (almost) guaranteed that you will still be able to use your device in the next version of Windows, Linux, etc., even if the hardware vendor declines to port the driver or goes out of business.

  4. Finally by jbernardo · · Score: 2

    Now, with 3D to add to video acceleration and fully documented power management, ADM APUs are even more the chipset of choice for netbooks and light laptops. In terms of value for money they were already hard to beat.

  5. Re:X logo? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then you haven't been paying attention. There are three majors players: Intel, NVidia, and AMD.

    NVidia has great proprietary Linux drivers but their documentation has been lacking. Open source developers do what they can with nouveau but without the full documentation, they are guessing in places. NVidia is working to make more documentation available.

    AMD has better documentation but their Linux drivers have not been as good as NVidia.

    Then there is Intel who has good documentation and drivers. The problem is their video cards are not as good as NVidia or AMD. If you need a basic video card with average multimedia capabilities like h264 support, Intel is good. If you want to play games with Steam, the experience might be lacking.

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  6. Re:licensed code by Foresto · · Score: 3, Informative

    Irrelevant. We're not asking for their driver code, we're asking for documentation on the hardware that we buy from them, so that we can write our own driver code.

  7. Re:X logo? by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 3, Informative

    The main reason Open Source video drivers for newer nVidia and AMD GPUs have had such a checkered history is precisely the lack of public hardware specs. The driver teams have been forced to reverse-engineer some of the hardware features to develop the drivers, which is far from ideal.

    Open Source drivers for Intel GPUs have historically been pretty good (well, at least until they started using the PowerVR-based junk...); the issue there has been slow hardware, not buggy drivers.

  8. Re:X logo? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    You don't trust open source. So who do you trust? Proprietary? Pffft. Take for example NVidia. Every time NVidia updates their drivers it might break something in Linux or the a kernel update might break the driver. Nouveau generally is stable but it doesn't do everything the proprietary driver does. Rock and hard place. Like I said, you haven't been laying attention.

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  9. The prophesy of St. Ignucius must be fulfilled. by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

    Gee, so you mean, hardware companies can just focus on making better hardware and actually give us the information we need to make the most out of the hardware they sell us rather than holding the documentation for ransom? RMS can finally stop rolling in his grave!

    Seriously, stop. If you're "not dead yet", that's just weird, man.

  10. Re:X logo? by hobarrera · · Score: 2

    Times are changing fast. Intel's GPUs are catching up with nvidia's. Last-gen games run great on an Intel HD 5000, and the gap between Intel and nvidia/amd is shinking fast!