California Outlaws 'Revenge Porn'
coondoggie writes "Call it a modern day love story: Boy meets girl; they 'like' each other; they privately sext naked pics of each other to celebrate; girl loses interest, breaks it off; guy responds by posting previously private pics to Internet site specializing in revenge; girl has little recourse, suffers much humiliation, ridicule. There is a lot of pressure to change the outcome of such wretched stories, which seem to be pervasive these days. Some relief is on the way the way, at least in California, where this week the governor signed one of the nation's first laws making so-called 'revenge porn' illegal. Specifically, the bill prevents people from electronically distributing or posting naked pictures of ex-romantic partners after a break-up with the intent to shame the person publicly."
we accept people get naked and do fun things?
That would be far more beneficial in the long run.
You got naked and had sex, own up, move on.
TO Be Clear: IT's a horrible, rude, dhouch beg, jack ass movie to put that private stuff on the internet. I"m not siding with those assholes. It would just be nice that instead of going 'OMG she does what I do, but now its in a picture!' to 'So what, everyone does it, lets get the asshole that distribute the picture.'
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What a strange time we live in.
First, that the government needs to go stick it's nose into business like this. Second that people feel they deserve privacy for pictures they send to third parties unencumbered by any business contract or doctor/lawyer privilege. Who exactly gets to determine when a disclosure of photographs is or is not allowed? Now we have to take the understood intention of the first party into account? What about when someone changes their mind? What about when pictures are taken by a the second party? What about by a third party?
Strange.
"Here Lies Philip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit"
How the hell will they prove it's revenge? If you don't want naked pics of you posted on the internet, don't let him take pictures. This is one of the stupidest laws I've ever heard of.
Don't send naked photos of yourself to people you really don't know. In fact, don't send naked pictures of yourself over the Internet to anyone.
I can't imagine how they will prove intent or source in most cases. Hint: they won't. This will make the situation worse, with the legal system being used for false-flag blackmail of exes in revenge.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
What about this?
1. In a lot of these cases, the person who uploaded the picture to the revenge site did not take the picture. It was sent to them some time before. They do not own copyright to the image. It was already illegal in that case.
2. These sites are funded by advertising. Therefore, the images are being used in a commercial manner. Your likeness cannot be used for commercial purposes without your explicit consent. It was already illegal in this case, too.
So we're really just adding an almost-impossible-to-prove situation on top of things that are already illegal. The problem is and always has been that the person whose picture is posted doesn't know about it because they would never visit the site. So they don't find out until everyone else already knows about it.
1. Don't say anything you wouldn't say to your boss and your mother.
2. Don't post anything you wouldn't want your boss, and mother to read.
3. Don't take, or allow to be taken pictures you wouldn't show to your boss and mother.
4. Nothing is ever anonymous!
I live by them, and so should you.
If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
You're right that sexism is involved, but you're entirely wrong about where it's occuring. Women almost never do this because our society is sexist about nudity. No one cares about male nudity unless the male in question is running for office. A nude picture of a man generally get a "boys will be boys" response and everyone forgetting about it shortly thereafter. A nude picture of a woman generally results in A: lots of males wanting to view it and B: lots of people calling the woman a slut or whore or something similar.
So even if both people in the relationship have nude pictures of each other the male is still in a position of strength. He can damage her reputation significantly by publishing them while she can't do the same to him.
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" He can damage her reputation significantly by publishing them while she can't do the same to him."
Wanna a bet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SlGjIm4Jc
What he did wasn't illegal, what she did was. Funny how the part where she dumped him gets ignored. Men don't like being treated like shit anymore than women do and women often aren't any more angelic in their responses either. In this case, she was worse. Sexism works both ways. If he had decked her friend and caught up with her he'd be in jail even though she started the fight and brought a friend to assist. And it's highly likely a jury would convict him. Women may see more issues(ok, blown out of proportion issues) but the end responsibility and accountability is still placed on men in our society not women.
"Women almost never do this because our society is sexist about nudity. "
"So even if both people in the relationship have nude pictures of each other the male is still in a position of strength."
And if your girl friend makes fun of your sex life to all her girlfriends and they spread it around?
Men do the competing and women do the picking. There is no balance women have the upper hand.
" He can damage her reputation significantly by publishing them while she can't do the same to him."
She could accuse him of rape. Even manufacture evidence quite easily. He'll be arrested, tossed in jail, publicly humiliated on the front page, lose his job, etc, in most places on just the accusation. A guy accusing a woman of rape gets little more that the last page if anything and the short-shrift in law enforcement and that if he is believed at all. Fact is, sexism is everywhere, and both genders can treat each other badly. Deal. All this abusive law proves is freedom(free doom) is dead, long live the nanny state.