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Former NSA Honcho Calls Corporate IT Security "Appalling"

Nerval's Lobster writes "Former NSA technology boss Prescott Winter has a word for the kind of security he sees even at large, technologically sophisticated companies: Appalling. Companies large enough to afford good security remain vulnerable to hackers, malware and criminals because they tend to throw technological solutions at potential areas of risk rather than focusing on specific and immediate threats, Winter said during his keynote speech Oct. 1 at the Splunk Worldwide User's Conference in Las Vegas. 'As we look at the situation in the security arena we see an awful lot of big companies – Fortune 100-level companies – with, to be perfectly candid, appalling security. They have fundamentally no idea what they're doing,' Winter said, according to a story in U.K. tech-news site Computing. During almost 28 years at the National Security Agency (NSA), Winter established the spy agency's Technology Directorate and served as the agency's first CTO. He also held positions as the NSA's CIO, its deputy chief of Defensive Information Operations and, oddly, as chief of Customer Response. He is currently managing director of Chertoff Group, the strategic management and security consultancy established by Michael Chertoff, secretary of the Dept. of Homeland Security under Pres. George W. Bush and co-author of the USA Patriot Act."

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  1. Re:No Shit, Sherlock by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 5, Informative

    You got that right. Security is hard. Security is expensive. Security does not improve profits (as long as they continue to be lucky). The company that spends money on security while their competitors are not, will lose out. Therefore, who needs it? There's no sense of living dangerously without some really spectacular examples...

  2. Give me a break. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    He's keynoting at a major security vendor conference. Having done so myself, the goal and focus is ALWAYS to spread FUD to sell software and services. This industry survives off of fear mongering. That's not to say there aren't problems, but when you're paid tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars to keynote on behalf of a vendor, you generally have an unwritten agreement to paint the most dramatic picture possible.

  3. Security is possible, but you must focus. by dweller_below · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have been doing IT for 30 years. I have been doing Security for a University for about the last 15 years. I have found that security is possible, but you have to focus.

    The biggest problem is we are not taught how to do security. We are taught attack. But attack is not security. We are taught checklists, but checklists are not security.

    Security is a meaningful assurance that your goals are being accomplished. The details are transitory. But, without goals, security has no point. Sticking to your goals when attacked is the heart of defense. Ultimately, it is the only thing that matters in security. Your organization adds value by sticking to it's goals. But this is more than just a matter of value added. Goals are the spirit of the organization. If you don't stick to your goals when attacked, then you have lost. The attacker may not have won, but you have lost.

    But, security folks are not taught how to support institutional goals. Instead, we are taught myriads of other things. You can see examples of the mechanics of security defeating meaningful security all over the place. One striking example is the SANS 20 Critical Controls: http://www.sans.org/critical-security-controls/ While they contain many good points, they fail to teach security. When we analyzed them, we found that they tended to replace security process with checklist. When we had finished the evaluation process we had eliminated, reordered and replaced many of their controls. Our most important control was not even mentioned. It is:

    Critical Control 1: Unity of Vision

    Security is a MEANINGFUL Assurance that YOUR goals are being Accomplished. Most security failures are enabled and enhanced by disagreement of purpose. Are the fundamentals of management in place?

    • A. How does your organization create a sense of community?
    • B. What are your Institution's Goals?
    • C. How are those goals propagated throughout the organization?
    • D. How do your security actions promote your institutional goals?
    • E. How do your security actions provide assurance to your institution?
    • F. How does your institution reward long term loyalty?

    Another glaring omission is the complete lack of strategic thinking in the security community. Winning battles, but loosing the war is our way of life. Nothing in the SANS controls guides you to ask the important questions like: "Were am I going?" and "How did I get in this handbasket?" and "Do I HAVE to eat this crap?" For our analysis of the SANS Controls, we added another Control. We valued it at number 3:

    Critical Control 3: Enable a Better Future

    This control assumes that our actions affect the future. Do your actions enable a more secure future?

    • A. How do you increase the cost of attack?
    • B. Do you report attack to the remote ISP/attacker?
    • C. How do you coordinate with law enforcement?
    • D. How do you decrease the cost of defense for yourself and others?
    • E. How do you reduce the motivation for local attack?
    • F. Do you disclose vulnerabilities to others? If so, will your institution protect it’s people when others attempt to punish disclosure?
    • G. Do you facilitate others disclosing vulnerabilities to you?
    • H. Do you help your peers improve their security?

    The SANS 20 Controls were originally written by the NSA for the Department of Defense: http://www.sans.org/critical-security-controls/history.php The recent NSA disclosures make me wonder if maybe they are flawed, because the NSA simply doesn't value effective security?

  4. Re:No, really? by MrNemesis · · Score: 4, Informative

    You've been modded funny, but it's more +1 Insightful, -2 Depressing.

    I've had several calls from my bank that basically go like this:
    GB: "Hello, I'm calling from Generic Bank regarding your account, in order to verify your identity as the account holder can I ask you to confirm your name, date of birth and account number please?"
    MN: "Sure"
    GB: "..."
    MN: "Well are you going to tell me?"
    GB: "Sorry sir, you need to tell me that information"
    MN: "And how do I know you're not a scammer?"
    GB: "Because I'm calling from Generic Bank"
    MN: "I'm not going to give any information to an unsolicited caller asking me for my bank details. Are you going to tell me what this call is about?"
    GB: "I'm afraid I can only do that with the verified account holder"
    MN: "And who is that?"
    GB: "I'm afraid I can't tell you until you tell me, but I can assure you I am calling from Generic Bank"
    MN: "And I can assure you I didn't take a shit in your cornflakes but that doesn't necessarily make it true, does it?"
    *click*

    Yes, these calls really were from the bank because every time this happens I walk into a branch and ask a) why I was called and b) why they still haven't fixed this utterly moronic behaviour. Don't even get me started on the almost complete and utter lack of two-factor auth for online banking as well as the utterly ridiculous password requirements. About 5 years back my bank said I could have a current account with an RSA key... the catch was it had to have at least £50,000 in it. I think it's only within the last year or so they've brought in two-factor auth for us mere peons, and yet you're apparently still able to reset your account with "security questions". When I tried to set answers that were purposefully incorrect (e.g. for "memorable place" you might choose to give "Marvin's turgid bowling average") I was told I wasn't allowed to do that so I cancelled the whole process. Asinine.

    I haven't given the name of my bank, because they all seem equally shitty in this regard.

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