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Visual Studio 2013 Released

jones_supa writes "Final releases of Visual Studio 2013, .NET 4.5.1, and Team Foundation Server 2013 are now available. As part of the new release, the C++ engine implements variadic templates, delegating constructors, non-static data member initializers, uniform initialization, and 'using' aliases. The editor has seen new features, C++ improvements and performance optimizations. Support for Windows 8.1 has been enhanced and the new XAML UI Responsiveness tool and Profile Guided Optimization help to analyze responsiveness in Windows Store apps. Graphics debugging has been furthered to have better C++ AMP tools and a new remote debugger (x86, x64, ARM). As before, MSDN and DreamSpark subscribers can obtain the releases from the respective channels, and the Express edition is available zero cost for all."

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  1. Who cares? by faragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Visual Studio 2010 was already bloated and brain-dead. TFS sucks and the Git integration is poor. Not worth it, in my opinion.

    1. Re:Who cares? by Hsien-Ko · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So what new form of vendor lock-in does VS2013 do? Kick out XP SP3 users from executing?

    2. Re: Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree

      VS2012 was massive improvement in terms of features. Unfortunately, those features consumed A LOT of resources, to the point it was completely unusable on my computer (on start, after a few minutes, VS2012 would show a message saying "your computer is too slow for VS2012").

      VS2013 is as feature rich (actually, more) than VS2012 *and* it consumes LESS resources than 2010. I have been using it since the Preview (with ReSharper and a few more plugins) and it's great.

  2. Programs! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I look back with fondness for the times when a program was a set of instructions and declarations written in a programming language, rather than am odd derivative of C++ tied to a billion files in various XML schemas.

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    I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
    1. Re:Programs! by murdocj · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Using lots of libraries and components is great... when it all works. When your app won't build and you get an obscure error message from some package that you didn't even know you were using, it's not so much fun. I handcrafted make files as well. At least then, I knew what was going on, and what depended on what.

  3. Still half-assed C++11 support by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (sigh)

    Oh well... maybe next year they'll catch up. Oh wait, that's when C++14 is supposed to be standardized.

    [double facepalm]

  4. Re:zero cost by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple, for instance, only charges $100 to develop on the iPad, giving the tools away.

    Sure, and the dealership just GAVE ME the car I'm driving after charging me money for it! Wow that was nice of them.

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    It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
  5. Re:zero cost by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I can't even begin to comprehend why MS feels it needs to charge for the product"

    I know, right? I don't know why the grocery store charges for hot dogs either. It's just a product.
    More apps for the iPad means more app sales, which Apple takes a cut of, so that's a pretty bad example. Microsoft does give away the Express version, which is pretty decent for most non-commercial software.