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Physicist Unveils a 'Turing Test' For Free Will

KentuckyFC writes "The problem of free will is one of the great unsolved puzzles in science, not to mention philosophy, theology, jurisprudence and so on. The basic question is whether we are able to make decisions for ourselves or whether the outcomes are predetermined and the notion of choice is merely an illusion. Now a leading theoretical physicist has outlined a 'Turing Test' for free will and says that while simple devices such as thermostats cannot pass, more complex ones like iPhones might. The test is based on an extension of Turing's halting problem in computer science. This states that there is no general way of knowing how an algorithm will finish, other than to run it. This means that when a human has to make a decision, there is no way of knowing in advance how it will end up. In other words, the familiar feeling of not knowing the final decision until it is thought through is a necessary feature of the decision-making process and why we have the impression of free will. This leads to a simple set of questions that forms a kind of Turing test for free will. These show how simple decision-making devices such as thermostats cannot believe they have free will while humans can. A more interesting question relates to decision-makers of intermediate complexity, such as a smartphone. As the author puts it, this 'seems to possess all the criteria required for free will, and behaves as if it has it.'"

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  1. Presence of self-awareness by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wouldn't the presence of self-awareness be a prerequisite, so just about every device should fail, before even getting to the actual test?

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  2. And Fire qualifies for many definitions of Life by Quantus347 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that a smartphone (Or I assume by extension any personal computer) can qualify should be an indcator that the test itself is flawed. Just like how many early definitions of Life applied to Fire (breaths, eats, grows, responds to outside stimuli, etc) even though it is just a chemical reaction.

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    1. Re:And Fire qualifies for many definitions of Life by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For a definition of "life" to be meaningful, it needs to apply to bacteria, and not to fire, because the word has had meaning for a very long time, and it's meaning absolutely does not apply to fire.

      I'm not trying to say that there aren't corner cases that are hard to define, but fire is not one of them, nor are bacteria.

      Differentiating "just chemical reactions" from "life" is the purpose of said definition.

      And yes, I am begging the question I suppose, but I will still stick by what I say.

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  3. My phone has free will by SeanTobin · · Score: 5, Funny

    My smartphone definitely has free will. I can not predict when it will reboot on its own, when it will freeze on a screen or when it will lie to me about notifications. I think it not only has free will, but is also a sociopath!

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  4. Re:Hmm by xevioso · · Score: 5, Funny

    My thermostat believes it's Napoleon, and whenever I wander by it on the way to the restroom at night, it always bugs me about how we should be invading Russia and to please make sure I never ship him off to Elba or some such nonsense.

  5. Re:Siri doesn't have free will by OakDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it turns out we don't have free will, I plan to go nuts and just do whatever I want!

  6. Re:Siri doesn't have free will by pspahn · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in the same sense, does a married man have free will? At first it might appear so, but upon further investigation it is clear that he does not.

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  7. There is no "unsolved problem of free will" by harvestsun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The very concept of free will is itself a silly one, devised by simple-minded people. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with science.

    First of all there really is no such thing as "free will", REGARDLESS of whether the universe is deterministic or not; the concept is by nature a contradiction. The generally accepted definition of free will is "I am the ultimate cause of my actions". To put it another way, "I am the ultimate originator of my will". If you are the religious type, then when you say "you", you're talking about some abstract notion of a soul, and we can't really delve any further. But this is a scientific paper, so "you" means the collection of thoughts, memories, and wills residing in your skull. So really we're saying "my will determines my will", which of course doesn't make sense! You couldn't have "chosen" your "original" will (which went on to determine your future wills); you weren't born yet! It is a prime example of causa sui.

    But moving on to the paper, it's rife with invalid assumptions. For example: "If decisions are freely made, then those decisions can form the basis for condemning people to prison". That assumes that we condemn a person to prison because they made a bad decision and they "deserve it". That's an oversimplification. We condemn people to prison in order to dissuade other people from committing crimes, and to reduce the likelihood of condemned people committing more crimes. Free will and determinism have nothing to do with it.

    Also, the paper never really attempts to form a test for free will. The poor summary is more to blame here than the paper itself. The paper forms a test for the PERCEPTION of free will, which the author arbitrarily defines as "being unable to know the result of a decision before actually making that decision" (which implies recursive reasoning, which is the main criteria for the test). So a thermostat does not have free will because an external device could easily predict its output. But a computer has the perception of free will, because as an extension to Turing's halting problem, it is possible to create algorithms where it is impossible to know the output faster than it takes to actually go through the algorithm.

    What does this really mean, practically speaking? Absolutely nothing. These are concepts that have been discussed for many years; nothing is being added here. It's disappointing that this kind of thing is able to make it to the Slashdot front page.