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First New Top-Level Domains Added To the Root Zone

angry tapir writes "The Internet – or at least its namespace – just got bigger. Four new top-level domains have been added to the Internet's root zone. The four new gTLDs all use non-Latin scripts: 'web' in Arabic, 'online' in Cyrillic, 'sale' in Cyrillic, and 'game' in Chinese. In total, the generic top-level domain process run by ICANN will result in the expansion of top-level domains from 22 to up to 1400."

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  1. Phishing by sbrown7792 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And phishers everywhere rejoiced

    1. Re:Phishing by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      For that, register .coRn.
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  2. Cyrillic is not a language by necro81 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cyrillic is an alphabet or script; it is not a language. The TLDs written in Cyrillic, when translated into Russian (the most abundant language to use the Cyrillic script) are "online" and "sale".

    1. Re:Cyrillic is not a language by rxmd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually no. This is just the English words "online" and "site" (not "sale") transliterated into the Cyrillic script. A lot of languages that are written in the Cyrillic alphabet use "online" and "site" as loan words from English, the new TLDs will fit all of them.

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    2. Re:Cyrillic is not a language by kharchenko · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, the second one is "site", not "sale". The ludicrous thing is that neither word is actually russian - they are simply transliterations of the english "online" and "site" words in cyrillic.

    3. Re:Cyrillic is not a language by mi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Although could you tell me the Russian equivalents of the English "Online" and "Site"?

      There really aren't (single-word) equivalents, which is why the English words are now so widely used for the purpose even by the purists and the anti-Americans (of whom there are very many among Russians nowadays)...

      The best I can come up with would be "na linii" ("on line") and "mesto" ("place"), but neither are quite exact a match for the English terms...

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    4. Re:Cyrillic is not a language by nullchar · · Score: 3, Informative

      In China, CNNIC manages .cn in ASCII for their country code top level domain (ccTLD). They also manage .xn--fiqs8s (simplified) and .xn--fiqz9s (traditional) for ".china" in Chinese.

      When you purchase a domain under .xn--fiqs8s, you get the same string in .xn--fiqz9s. This is referred to as "IDN Bundling". DNS resolves for both, but you only have to manage one domain.

      It's yet to be seen what the New gTLDs will do for Chinese simplified vs traditional. Most likely, they will only accept simplified characters (to keep it simple!) but they could do bundling.

  3. It's "site", not "sale" by ManiaX+Killerian · · Score: 2

    The word in cyrlillic ("") is "site", not "sale".

    1. Re:It's "site", not "sale" by Fnordulicious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters in ISO 8859-1.

    2. Re:It's "site", not "sale" by david.given · · Score: 2

      No wonder I find most of the posts incomprehensible! I'm reading it in ISO 8859-15...

  4. Re:Google Translator compatible? by canadiannomad · · Score: 2

    This splits nothing. You can go to a funky alphabeted url just as easily as a latin alphabeted url... Just need the link or to use an appropriate keyboard/on screen keyboard. The internet is pretty split along language lines anyway, if you hadn't noticed. (I do notice, cause I speak 3 languages, and am currently in a country that speaks another.)

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  5. Re:Google Translator compatible? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 2

    These new domains seem to split the internet, unless the pages can be read by the English speaking world. Maybe that's the idea, but it seems to move away from the intent of a universal internet.

    Right now there are many millions of websites I can't read because I don't speak Chinese, Korean, Russian, etc. etc. etc.... There can be no "universal Internet" unless everyone speaks the same language, which is never going to happen.

  6. (shabaka) by purnima · · Score: 2

    is "network" in Arabic. Not web.

    1. Re: (shabaka) by nullchar · · Score: 2

      Here is the marketing website behind it: http://dotshabaka.com/

  7. Re:Massive US land grab by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    You seem to have missed the Montevideo Statement a few weeks back. All of the Internet governance bodies are going NGO.

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  8. Re:Google Translator compatible? by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    These new domains seem to split the internet, unless the pages can be read by the English speaking world. Maybe that's the idea, but it seems to move away from the intent of a universal internet.

    Right now there are many millions of websites I can't read because I don't speak Chinese, Korean, Russian, etc. etc. etc.... There can be no "universal Internet" unless everyone speaks the same language, which is never going to happen.

    Not to mention there are many in English that I don't understand; on genetic sequencing, quantum effects, plasma physics, etc.

  9. Re:External September is over... by tverbeek · · Score: 2

    The Web jumped the shark back in the 1990s, shortly after Microsoft started bundling a browser with Windows.

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  10. Re:2013: The first non-Latin TLDs... by Lennie · · Score: 2

    Really, you think these are the fist non-Latin TLDs ? These are just the first more open under the new gTLD process. Non-Latin TLDs have existed for much longer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Internationalized_country_code_top-level_domains

    Here is the full list in Punycode ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode ) of all the now non-Latin TLDs (as slashdot doesn't do UTF-8):
    XN--0ZWM56D
    XN--11B5BS3A9AJ6G
    XN--3E0B707E
    XN--45BRJ9C
    XN--80AKHBYKNJ4F
    XN--80AO21A
    XN--80ASEHDB
    XN--80ASWG
    XN--90A3AC
    XN--9T4B11YI5A
    XN--CLCHC0EA0B2G2A9GCD
    XN--DEBA0AD
    XN--FIQS8S
    XN--FIQZ9S
    XN--FPCRJ9C3D
    XN--FZC2C9E2C
    XN--G6W251D
    XN--GECRJ9C
    XN--H2BRJ9C
    XN--HGBK6AJ7F53BBA
    XN--HLCJ6AYA9ESC7A
    XN--J1AMH
    XN--J6W193G
    XN--JXALPDLP
    XN--KGBECHTV
    XN--KPRW13D
    XN--KPRY57D
    XN--L1ACC
    XN--LGBBAT1AD8J
    XN--MGB9AWBF
    XN--MGBA3A4F16A
    XN--MGBAAM7A8H
    XN--MGBAYH7GPA
    XN--MGBBH1A71E
    XN--MGBC0A9AZCG
    XN--MGBERP4A5D4AR
    XN--MGBX4CD0AB
    XN--NGBC5AZD
    XN--O3CW4H
    XN--OGBPF8FL
    XN--P1AI
    XN--PGBS0DH
    XN--S9BRJ9C
    XN--UNUP4Y
    XN--WGBH1C
    XN--WGBL6A
    XN--XKC2AL3HYE2A
    XN--XKC2DL3A5EE0H
    XN--YFRO4I67O
    XN--YGBI2AMMX
    XN--ZCKZAH

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  11. Re:Google Translator compatible? by wvmarle · · Score: 2

    Far less if you only include native English speakers: US + Canada + Australia + UK = 317+26+23+63 = 429 million. Add some smaller countries like SA and NZ and reach maybe 500 mln, that's barely 7% of the world's population.

    I expected more if you include speakers of English as a second language (like myself).

  12. Re:External September is over... by istartedi · · Score: 2

    I see the rise of FaceBook and mobile, roughly around 2007 as a real shark-jumping. This transformed the web into a much more consumer oriented, dumbed down experience. The intelligent stuff is still out there, but new users aren't drawn into it. Even if they would be inclined to Slashdot, they're corrupted and distracted by all the finger-painting pinch-zoom twerking.

    People were still building their own web pages in the 90s, still experimenting. It was the fertile ground from which many green herbs were growing... ultimately to be choked off by weeds. Perhaps the rise of MySpace is indicative of that phase. In general, the transition from "you've got to know a little HTML to put up a page" to "just type your life story into our site" is the latest step into oblivion.

    Of course everybody has their own take on this, and there have been several stages. The opening of the Internet to AOL users in the mid-90s is the original September moment.

    Sorry, I know Slashdot loves to bash MS; but I didn't see the bundling of IE having much impact on the quality of the Web.

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  13. Look-alikes by rabtech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone know if they handle the look-alike issue or are we still stuck with URLs that appear to be latin "paypal.com", but with the "y" replaced by a greek lower gamma (Î) #x3b3, "p" replaced with cyrillic Er (Ñ) #x440, or some other equivalent that appears identical?

    I understand why it's a hard issue: the cyrillic lowercase Er looks *identical* to latin p so they can be mapped to the same character, but the greek lower gamma isn't the exact same glyph as latin lower y, they just look close enough that a user might not notice. Would it be a slight to greek users to force greek domain names to use a misshapen lower gamma? Then what do you do with greek alpha, where the capital matches the latin glyph exactly but the lower does not?

    Then there's the issue that every computer everywhere can enter latin characters, but not everyone has software for or how to use stuff like Chinese characters or Japanese Hirigana. Keeping to basic latin characters makes entering domain names universal, though I understand why that's convenient for an English speaker like me to say. I'd be curious to hear from some people who have non-European first languages how much having to use latin domain names seems to bother the average computer user and whether there is any actual cry for international domain names in their country? How difficult/easy is it to enter latin characters on your keyboard layout? Does it present a barrier to entry for the less educated/literate, or does everyone remember their English classes from school?

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  14. Doesn't this really amount to extortion? by jbarr · · Score: 2

    Doesn't the addition of all these domains mean that companies that keep a tight leash on their trademarking (like Coke, Pepsi, Microsoft, etc.) will have to shell out hundreds of new and ongoing registration fees just to ensure that some obscure domain isn't hijacked with their name? This seems more like a cash cow for ICANN than a thought-out expansion.

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