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How Safe Is Cycling?

theodp writes "With new bike sharing programs all the rage, spending tens of millions of dollars to make city streets more bike friendly with hundreds of miles of bike lanes has become a priority for bike-loving mayors like NYC's Michael Bloomberg and Chicago's Rahm Emanuel. 'You cannot be for a startup, high-tech economy and not be pro-bike,' claimed Emanuel, who credited bike-sharing and bike lanes for attracting Google and Motorola Mobility to downtown Chicago. Now, with huge bike-sharing contracts awarded and programs underway, the NY Times asks the big question, How Safe Is Cycling? Because bike accidents rarely make front page news and are likely to be dramatically underreported, it's hard to say, concludes the NYT's Gina Kolata. UCSF trauma surgeon Dr. Rochelle Dicker, who studied hospital and police records for 2,504 bicyclists treated at San Francisco General Hospital, told Kolata,'Lots of my colleagues do not want to ride after seeing these [city biking] injuries.' On the other hand, Andy Pruitt, the founder of the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine and an avid lifelong cyclist, said the dangers were overstated, noting he's only broken his collarbone twice and hip once in four decades of long-distance cycling. So, is cycling safe, especially in the city? And is it OK to follow Mayor Emanuel's lead and lose the helmet?"

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  1. Cycling not the Answer by sycodon · · Score: 0, Troll

    No one is going to bike to work in 3 feet of snow and/or 12 degrees.
    No one is going to bike to work in driving rain.
    No one is going to bike to work in 100+ degree temps. If they do, you won't want to be around them

    This fantasy that some people have of everyone biking around the city like in China or some small Italian town is ridiculous. Very few places have a climate and the layout that is conducive to this. Austin has already wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on this garbage already. Forget it.

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  2. Re:How safe? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1, Troll
    I'm cool with bicycles except in the mornings when everyone is trying to get to work....you're passing someone, and BANG, you have to hit the brakes when you see a damned bike in the road with heavy traffic slowing shit down, when you're trying to make it to work.

    I've likely almost killed a few idiots that I almost didn't see, especially in areas where the sun glare hits you in the early morning or late afternoon.

    I know bikes "technically" have the same right to be on the road as cars, but let's be realistic in this day in age....there are times when it is NOT safe to be on a bike on a public road without a specific bike lane that is out of the main traffic lanes.

    I like to ride a bike for exercise, but I'd damned sure not be out on the road during rush out without a being on a motorized vehicle.

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  3. Re:How safe? by cayenne8 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Perhaps you're driving too fast for conditions if you've "almost killed a few". Speed limits are *maximums", driving below the speed limit when conditions warrant it is always legal. Another option would be to pull off the road and wait until conditions improve to the point where you can see safely - a good rule of thumb is that if you can't see a human shaped object on the road, then you can't see well enough to drive.

    I'm driving at a speed that is safe for the automobile traffic around me....most of us are. We aren't expecting to have to slow quickly or stop for a slow moving, non-motorized vehicle suddenly appearing in the middle of the road.

    Face it...the roads are built and meant for motorized vehicles. It is the smaller bicycles that have to be on the lookout and use judgement on when it is save to ride and on what roads.

    You can go on and on all you want on laws and insurance, etc....but what good is that going to do for you when racked up in the hospital for months, and that's even if you survive a duel with a 3000+ lbs metal vehicle going about 3-4x as fast as you are?

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  4. Re:How safe? by Endo13 · · Score: 0, Troll

    That appears to be a problem with your driving. You don't drive at a speed that's safe for the automobile traffic around you, you drive at a speed that's safe for the road you're on, and apparently you're on a road that's frequented by cyclists. If you were on a limited access highway, maybe you could get away with your style of driving, but anywhere else you need to drive at a safe and prudent speed and expect obstacles in the road - bikes, pedestrians, stalled cars, dogs, cows, etc. I once narrowly avoided a refrigerator that was left in the middle of the road after it fell off a truck.

    So basically, you expect drivers to do 15mph in a 35 just because you're too much of a dick to get the fuck out of the way.

    I wouldn't lump all drivers in with yourself, not all drivers have such little control of their vehicle they fear running over cyclists.

    All drivers have trouble avoiding something unexpected in the road when it's hard to see.

    Actually, many roads were first built because of lobbying by cyclists -- it wasn't until cars came later that bikes were pushed off to the shoulders.

    Actually, roads were first built for horse-drawn vehicles. Then they were improved for automobiles. If you want to make extraordinary claims, you need some actual data to back it up. Otherwise, it's just bullshit.

    Oh, I understand my mortality when I'm on my bike, and since I know i'm not going to change the laws of physics, I've continued to encourage my legislators to write laws that hold cars more responsible when they are at-fault in collisions with cyclists. If car drivers thought they might face jail time for side swiping a cyclist, or hitting a cyclist "because I didn't see him" or "I was going too fast to stop", then perhaps they'll drive a little more carefully.

    And if cyclists thought they might face jail time for not obeying the laws of the road as the majority constantly do, then perhaps they'd bike a little more intelligently. (Actually, that's obviously not true because cyclists already face serious injury and death for being stupid on the road, and they do it all the time anyway.) But no, let's make legislature with outrageous penalties to punish people for using the roads as they were intended. After all, your right to bike is clearly more important than the right of ANYONE to drive a car.

    Bottom line though is you're being quite stupid about all this.

    I've seen drivers in the wrong on both sides of the issue. I've seen car drivers be way too aggressive, and I've seen bikers do things that are totally illegal by the laws of the road, almost get hit, and then yell at the car driver as if it were their fault. People are people. There are good and bad on BOTH sides. But you know what the difference is? If you're on your bike and you get in an accident with a car, YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE. And that's why your attitude on this is quite stupid.

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