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Apple Converting Trial and Pirated iWork, iLife and Aperture To Full Versions

tlhIngan writes "One aspect about the new OS X Mavericks release was that all Apple produced software was to be downloadable and updatable through the Mac App Store. However, this raises the obvious question: what happens to users who bought the software beforehand? Initial reports showed that the Mac App Store scanned your hard drive for software and offered to associate it with your Apple ID. The scans even found trial and pirated versions and upgraded those to fully-licensed versions. Even more interestingly, this is not a bug, and it appears Apple is turning a blind eye to the practice, giving away copies of iLife, iWork and Aperture to users who own trial or even pirated versions of the apps. Apple has also recently stopped providing downloadable trial versions of iLife, iWork and Aperture from their web site."

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  1. Not a Dick Move by DexterIsADog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good job, Apple. This will likely increase revenue from some of those whom you make legit, and will warm the hearts of some who, like me, despise all things Apple. Well, a little less today.

  2. Brilliant by deathcloset · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: Piracy Edition (Piracy being assumed as the natural, efficient and convenient way to get software over the internet). It's working for Adobe, despite glacial user acceptance and strong vociferous opposition.

    Step 1) entering product categories involving widely used standards: In this case we look at the "product category" as "minimal effort and cost software downloads" - what everyone lovingly calls digital piracy.

    Step 2) extending those standards with proprietary capabilities: Beat-out the pirates on even the 'minimal effort' part by not requiring a crack, key or navigation of noisy comments for affirmation of operation/safety and worry of nested nasty bits in your bytes. Also the cost is actually less, since it's free of money and of questionable legitimacy.

    Step 3) using those differences to disadvantage its competitors: No more trial downloads to easily crack, deeper mechanisms for software updates coupled with the ability to release consitent and constant updates which actually contain scoped functionality thereby daunting the crackers and hackers with new security mechanisms and version hell which results in a saturation of the pirate space with even more questionable softwares with varying levels of functionality/stability thus severly diminishing the causual pirate's desire and ability to identify and use the software they wish.

    Brilliant. It works. Now I have to pay ;) (I, personally, have a personal moral stance which makes me inevitably wind up paying for, conservatively, %50 of the software I download - because it is the software I actually like or use and YES, believe it or not I actually want to pay programmers to write stuff!).

    Still, it seems like there is another shoe to drop here. Now to read everyone else's comments for that shoe.

    1. Re:Brilliant by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The weird bit is Aperture. And not Final Cut X (apparently, FTFA). Aperture has been billed as the 'pro' photography app although it's a bit of a lightweight compared with Adobe (may their souls rot in a maggot infested camel turd) offerings. Likewise Final Cut X - although it acts more like a prosumer app than the previous versions of Final Cut and doesn't do half what Premiere Pro / After Effects does (nor does it cost as much).

      If Apple opens up Final Cut to this system, then it's pretty clear that Apple is dropping the high end photography / graphics professionals (all two dozen left) for the much larger, potentially more lucrative 'prosumer' market. Which makes me wonder who, if anyone, is planning on buying the Darth Trashcan when it is available.

      Call me confused. Personally, I've never liked any of the Apple apps. iWork was limited and buggy when I tried it a couple of years ago. Aperture is just.... weird. I can't wrap my brains around the work flow and Apple has been rather slow at upgrading it (while Abode Lightroom has actually morphed into a good product). Final Cut X is another program that just doesn't work for me - tries to do automatic things when I don't want it do, doesn't do automatic things that I think it should. IMHO Apple should stick to hardware and OS software, although their attempts to at least try to compete with Adobe (AKA 'slimeballs from Hell') is certainly appreciated.

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  3. Win8 upgrade did the same. by Holammer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I bought Win8 using a pirated Win7. I suspect MS turned a blind eye as well, as my poorly cracked copy constantly nagged about being counterfeit software etc.

    1. Re:Win8 upgrade did the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Microsoft has never really cared about pirated software. They seem to be one of the only companies that actually gets that it's impossible to stop piracy, so you shouldn't waste time bothering. The worst they do is to display a little nagware notice on a black desktop to say that the software isn't "genuine". They don't prevent you from accessing your files or running things. Prior to Windows 95, MS-DOS didn't even have any copy protection checks or license keys. Considering how many PCs run their products, it's clearly not an entirely bad thing.

      I'm running a single $15 copy of Windows 8 Pro "upgrade" (it's actually the full version) on two laptops right now. Updates and everything work fine on both.

    2. Re:Win8 upgrade did the same. by CitizenCain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You don't have that quite right.

      Microsoft's licensing model is such that they make vastly more from OEM and corporate sales than from end-consumer OS purchases. It's not that they don't care about piracy, (remember all that shit around activating Vista and 7, and WGA causing problems for legit users?) it's more that the sliver of income they get from consumer OS purchases isn't worth devoting resources to protect from piracy.

  4. iTunes Match by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Same sort of thing happened with iTunes match. It scans your whole music library (legal or otherwise) and gives you high bit rate versions of all your tracks in the cloud (and available to download permanently, even if you don't renew).

  5. iWork isn't bad for home use... by ducomputergeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I sold my last company in 2010. I bought a new MacBook Pro and decided to get iWork as it was far cheaper than Office. I needed to write a formal letter here and there, keep track of Farm expenses on a spreadsheet, and create presentations for start ups I was mentoring at a local technology incubator. Only thing that annoyed me slightly was having to buy the programs again for iOS. I felt if I bought them for mac they should have offered the iOS versions as part of the price.

    Well then one of the companies I was mentoring started to take off and it went from mentoring to consulting to now being offered an executive position with the company. They were all Mac users as well, but that's when we found the problem with iWork. While documents synced between our own devices, Apple doesn't offer iCloud for small businesses where we could all sync to a company drive. Ironically to solve this we went to Microsoft SkyDrive and then eventually to Office365.

    I still use iWork, especially Keynote for developing internal reports & presentations. As bad as this may sound, it's because I have a water proof case for my iPad and it's in my shower. That's where I often have my best ideas and it's handy to write them down, or go threw a presentation or write a todo list.

    Where this is nice is for my Dad who now gets an office suite free with the latest version of the OS that will do everything he needs.

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    1. Re:iWork isn't bad for home use... by jbolden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Apple does offer syncing for small businesses: http://www.apple.com/osx/server/

      Not only that they offer an almost no setup hardware bundle: http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/server/

  6. This was a pleasant surprise by sjgman9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought iWork 09 several years ago (before the app store existed) and was surprised to see it upgraded on one of my laptops!
    Thanks Apple!

  7. Of course by mosb1000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you have it, then you're using a mac one way or another. They want you using the latest software. The more people who use it the more benefit they get in terms mac or iDevice sales. They've already spent the money writing the software so they can sell more hardware. There is practically no marginal cost for distributing it.

  8. Apple has MSFT running scared with this. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You wouldn't happen to work for Microsoft would you? It seems like I've heard this before. . .

    I've been using the new versions since they came out. They have more features than the previous versions, not fewer. As far as I can tell, there's no reason to use Office anymore, and I doubt I will. And from the sounds of it, the decision makers at Microsoft are very scared of this update. They are doing everything they can to devalue it.

  9. Re:Identity Play by jythie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It could be less about the value of your ID, and more about trying to get people into the fold. Not only would this likely simplify the development and testing (thus decrease the cost of deployment) but it could generate some good will and keep people using the Apple stack. And since Apple is more a hardware and media company then a software one, getting people to pay for their software is probably a relatively low priority, esp when it might be in conflict with the other two major ones.