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Police Use James-Bond-Style GPS Bullet

mrspoonsi writes "The BBC reports that police in the U.S. are now using 'GPS bullets,' a device they can shoot at fleeing vehicles in order to track them. They're designed to make high-speed chases safer. The pursuing police car presses a button, a lid pops open, and a GPS bullet is fired which becomes attached to the fleeing car. The car can then be tracked from a distance in real-time without the need for a high-speed pursuit."

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  1. SO OLD NEWS by irving47 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not slashdot's fault... This is news from around 2009!

    http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-7000/first-gps-projectile-tracking-device/

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    1. Re:SO OLD NEWS by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2

      This is one of the trends in /. comments that I really don't like. When there's a new technology developed you get people saying that they don't care until it's actually being used. Then when we get stories about new technology being deployed it's "old news" because the technology has already been around. Calling other people wrong doesn't make you look smarter, it just makes you look like a prick.

  2. ghost in the shell by Sigvatr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ghost in the shell invented it first

    1. Re:ghost in the shell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_gadgets

      Actually, I don't think I see any sort of gps-bullet type tracking/homing device. There were a lot of tracking devices but none seem to involve shooting a bullet.

      I wonder if maybe Get Smart or some other series did the tracking bullet (before GITS).

    2. Re:ghost in the shell by foobar+bazbot · · Score: 2

      Try that with your Seburo!

    3. Re:ghost in the shell by tragedy · · Score: 4, Informative

      If we're using fictional examples, Spiderman has been using tracking devices in the comics for 30-40 years now. They are fired from the web shooters and stick to targets. They don't use GPS, of course, they're more traditional tracking devices that emit a signal and have to be tracked by the signal. The point is that this idea is hardly new, but it's interesting that there's this real-world working example

    4. Re:ghost in the shell by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought this was news for nerds dammit?!?!

      I thought this was nudes for nerds.

      Imagine my disappointment.

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    5. Re:ghost in the shell by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      If we're using fictional examples, Spiderman has been using tracking devices in the comics for 30-40 years now. They are fired from the web shooters and stick to targets. They don't use GPS, of course, they're more traditional tracking devices that emit a signal and have to be tracked by the signal.

      1) Spider-Tracers were NOT fired from his web shooters, they were thrown by hand.

      Not sure what signal they emitted, but it was only detectable via his "spider-sense".

      Note that I haven't read Spiderman in 30 years, so things may have changed since then.

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  3. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, we might find Scorpio's lair finally!

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  4. Typical BBC bias by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The StarChase system is a pursuit reduction technology that contains a miniature GPS module encased in a tracking projectile/tag and a launcher mounted on a police vehicle. It is neither a bullet nor a weapon as the BBC story claims. It doesn't use gunpowder, it uses compressed air. The word bullet does not appear anywhere on the company's website - except where another ignorant journalist has used it. You'd think the BBC would be better and more educated than the Des Moines, Iowa local news. You would also be incorrect in that assumption.

    You can argue that 'weapon' means 'tool used to achieve a goal' - but come on, this is the BBC we're talking about. You put the words "American police" and "bullet" together and quite naturally scare words like "weapon" come out. Look at the quote on the page: "There are other ways to track vehicles and this could raise some civil liberties issues." What does that even mean? Fleeing from the police, endangering the lives of everyone on the road and all the BBC can think of is how the criminal's rights might be violated...somehow. Unfortunately this mental rot extends throughout the entire organization and its journalists are simply no longer able to think straight. I doubt anyone even thought for a second about the bias. Sad, because once the BBC was a paragon of honesty. Look back at newsreels and 80s broadcasts and you will see a very different organization.

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    1. Re:Typical BBC bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, I don't see the bias. The article is calm, clear and balanced, and I don't see any attempts to mislead. The words "bullet" and "weapon" are used reasonably for the sake of easy comprehension and don't allude to anything sinister. The note about civil liberties issues is a passing quote from an expert and not in any way sensationalized.
      The contortions necessary to make it look like lies or scaremongering are all yours - I think you need to adjust your tinfoil hat.

    2. Re:Typical BBC bias by Falconhell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lol, when every US cop show has more shooting in the intro than an entire series of a comparable BBC show of much better quality, and you keep shooting each other at worlds highest rates, it seems spot on to me.

    3. Re:Typical BBC bias by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The StarChase system is a pursuit reduction technology that contains a miniature GPS module encased in a tracking projectile/tag and a launcher mounted on a police vehicle. It is neither a bullet nor a weapon as the BBC story claims. It doesn't use gunpowder, it uses compressed air. The word bullet does not appear anywhere on the company's website - except where another ignorant journalist has used it. You'd think the BBC would be better and more educated than the Des Moines, Iowa local news. You would also be incorrect in that assumption.

      You can argue that 'weapon' means 'tool used to achieve a goal' - but come on, this is the BBC we're talking about. You put the words "American police" and "bullet" together and quite naturally scare words like "weapon" come out. Look at the quote on the page: "There are other ways to track vehicles and this could raise some civil liberties issues." What does that even mean? Fleeing from the police, endangering the lives of everyone on the road and all the BBC can think of is how the criminal's rights might be violated...somehow. Unfortunately this mental rot extends throughout the entire organization and its journalists are simply no longer able to think straight. I doubt anyone even thought for a second about the bias. Sad, because once the BBC was a paragon of honesty. Look back at newsreels and 80s broadcasts and you will see a very different organization.

      There are guns that fire projectiles with compressed air and have been since at least the 18th century. This is the Star Chase system, to me it looks like a compressed air gun and that fires a bullet like projectile so the BBC is essentially right. It seems to me that you are getting worked up over nothing because you don't like the BBC and have no made up 'EU wants circus performers to wear hard-hats' type story to get worked up over this morning.

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    4. Re:Typical BBC bias by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      It's not bias. The usage of 'weapon', which only occurs once in the title, is to indicate that it is useful in a conflict. You will find lots of results for 'weapon against identity theft' in a Google search. The usage of bullet is an accurate description of what this is. It seems to me that you are the one with the very strong bias.

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    5. Re:Typical BBC bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you read your own link, the StarChase website refers to it as a cannon ffs.

      I think we can forgive the BBC for toning it down to bullet from cannon shell.

    6. Re:Typical BBC bias by Njovich · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except of course when it's perfectly fine to describe this as a bullet, there is absolutely nothing in the word bullet that requires the existence of gunpowder. Hell, bullet just means small ball by origin.

    7. Re:Typical BBC bias by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know why I like the BBC and their sister stations in Australia, over the years they have been accused of biased by all sides of politics. Using 20/20 hindsight their track record of "getting their facts straight" is hard to beat, and that's the reason why the are castigated so heavily by politicians when they do fuck up.

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  5. Re:The car can then be track by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Really. Slashdot.

  6. Even earlier by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    Even earlier than that: The movie Kiss the Girls and Make Them Die" (1966) had one.

    Not a bad movie for its time. The movie is a spoof of James Bond movies featuring a completely tricked-out Rolls Royce. (You can watch the trailer here.)

  7. Civil Liberties Issues? by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What issues are those?
    A hot pursuit is the perfect situation to tag a vehicle with a GPS device and then back off.
    The social benefit of not chasing someone far outweighs the social cost of the transient tracking.

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    1. Re:Civil Liberties Issues? by EdIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to mention one very important point....

      It's fired from a fucking cop car

      What on Earth is stealthy about that? It's compressed air but that does not mean you would not hear the thunk on your car. It's also on the outside of your damn car at a level that can be seen with the most inattentive of inspections. How long could it go unnoticed?

      There are no civil liberty issues here at all. It's abundantly clear that it's only viable during a high speed pursuit. Civil liberties my ass. If the cops are chasing us down without due process, and we have legitimate reasons to fear them following us, we are a hell of a lot more fucked. At that point civil liberties would be a luxury.

  8. If this becomes popular by Inev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If this becomes popular, then so will GPS jammers for any who expect a need to make a getaway.

    1. Re:If this becomes popular by citizenr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dont know about US, but in Europe its pretty standard for a car thieve to use unlocked ECU to bypass any immobilizers\electronic keys.
      Long forgotten are the days of connecting wires under the steering column, now they just swap computer and car magically starts.

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    2. Re:If this becomes popular by Firethorn · · Score: 2

      You're overthinking the issue. If they're jamming GPS that means they're transmitting. If you're transmitting all they need is equipment to track the jammer. They stop jamming and you go back to tracking the tracker, they jam you track the jammer.

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  9. head in the sand? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "GPS bullets that can track the location of a suspect's car"

    "There are other ways to track vehicles and this could raise some civil liberties issues" -- Dave Allen of Leeds University

    shh! nobody tell him about PRISM or his head might explode.

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  10. I can see a flaw by moderators_are_w*nke · · Score: 2

    If your car is being GPS tracked, and the police aren't giving chase just park up and run off. Idelly push it down a hill empty so they don't notice it's stopped (because that's not dangerous at all). Let the police have their fun and GPS track an empty car.

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  11. stealing a gps by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 2

    If you drive away with the tracker attached to your car, can the cops charge you with stealing it?

    1. Re:stealing a gps by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      If they attach it to your car and damage the paint work, and then you are later found innocent can you recover the cost of the repair from them?

      I have often wondered about this when the police raid people's houses. They smash the door in, take all your stuff and often damage or lose it. A couple of years later when you are found innocent you get back your laptop and it's battered, hard drive wiped (the UK police do wipe innocent people's drives for some reason) and tatty. What compensation is available?

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  12. Exchange Rate by carou · · Score: 5, Funny

    It costs $5,000 (£3,108) to install and each bullet costs $500 (£312).

    Apparently the exchange rate was updated while they were in the middle of writing that sentence.

  13. HA! HA! by Guest316 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is why I keep the back of my car coated in vaseline. Checkmate, Johnny Law!

  14. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by somersault · · Score: 2

    It seems you've skimmed the article, but not actually noticed an important point that was even mentioned in the summary:

    The pursuing police car presses a button, a lid pops open, and a GPS bullet is fired which becomes attached to the fleeing car

    I think since it could potentially save a lot of money on damages to public roads, cars, buildings, etc, that it probably would be used. It could even be funded by local insurance companies.

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  15. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
    Yes, but a good criminal would push his Speed Racer like button, and envelope the car in some type of Faraday Mesh rending the GPS bullet useless.

    BWhahahahahaa....

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  16. Ineffective? by Fredde87 · · Score: 2

    Surely the criminals would pick up on this new technique very quickly? If its a stolen car (which I would assume most police chases are caused by), wouldn't the criminals just dump the car and flee on foot since there is no cops chasing right up behind them? I guess one could argue that its better that a car thief gets away and no one gets hurt rather than a car chase were innocent people might be injured or killed, but I don't see how this system would catch even close to the same amount of criminals as the police catch today...

    1. Re:Ineffective? by PPH · · Score: 2

      Suspect gets ahead of the cops, pulls over an unsticks this from his car. Then sticks it to a passing bus.

      Also, there's the 'chain of evidence' problem. The police lose contact with the vehicle/driver. Later, they might recover the vehicle. But who was driving?

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  17. The BBC explained by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The thing to remember about the BBC is that is the elite, who know they are the elite, getting an elite salary living in the elite section of London being quite ashamed about being elite, ridled with white guilt but not to the point of you know, hiring a "black" person. It is fun when you watch a show like "Have I got news for you" and you realize that 99% of the presentors and guests make more per episode then most Brits make in a year. "Deayton's salary was halved to £25,000 a show but the latest revelations forced Ms Heggessey's hand." http://www.theguardian.com/media/2002/oct/29/broadcasting.bbc6

    That was ten years ago. HALVED TO, so it USED to be 50.000 pounds. Per episode. The series used to do two seasons per year of around a dozen episodes. And 50.000 pounds was his fee PER SHOW!

    Now I don't know the exact economics of the UK but I think it is fair to assume that for most people, 50k a YEAR would be a nice salary to have. This guy gets it for a couple hours "work". His co-hosts frequently portray themselves as either being "working class" or defender of the down-trodden but they get similar fees and have other jobs besides this show.

    Top Gear host Jeremy Clarkson made a joke about the UK soldiers who were captured by Iran that they made quite a nice salary "oh that is per year!?! never mind" he then quipped. It is funny but it shows the complete separation between normal people (the audience of the BBC) and its stars. What do these people, whether they host a popular entertainment program, a news show or the news itself about losing their job and not knowing how you are going to pay next weeks rent (and no, not knowing how you are going to pay the mortgage on your 3rd 5 million pound summer home is not the same thing).

    Or do you think Angus Deaton getting his salary halved from a mere 50k to 25k for an half hour show is on the same level as a pensioner having their benefits cut?

    The BBC used to be a rare mix of working class and oxford silver spoon people making TV if not together then at least in the same building. This has changed. The pay has gotten so good that even if they were working class when they started, they aren't after a few years. This has rotted the BBC to the point you can see it in their news service, they just don't get the working class, let alone the class without jobs anymore. They feel sorry for them but like a nobel who sends his butler with the remains of the turkey dinner to the orphanage. Watch some HIGNFY eps were there are working class union reps on. The hostility is palpatable, how dare these people who make less then 20k a year tells us what it is really about.

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  18. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by beelsebob · · Score: 2

    3. $500, get the fuck outa here. Nobody cares that much except the BBC who suckered you all into looking at ads over their vaporware story anyway.

    This is the key though. A police pursuit is expensive –really expensive. First, you're likely to involve at least 5 vehicles (if not directly in the pursuit, then trying to close the driver down into a net), that means 10 drivers being paid, 5 engines burning a lot of fuel. Then you're likely to call in the helicopter, because otherwise the chance of losing them is very high. The chances that one of the cops hits something during the pursuit are increased, increasing the chance of damage to a police vehicle. Add to that the the fleeing driver may deliberately hit the police car, causing significant damage. All this added up together likely means that it costs more than $500 to run a pursuit. Thus, this could well be a cost saving.

    This also addresses points 1 and 4 (which were actually 3 in disguise). Point 2 is just plain wrong. Point 5 isn't a point.

  19. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

    Here, in the US, the police helicopter is called in, as often as possible. But, that doesn't end the ground chase at all - the chopper just witnesses the ground chase, and if the occupants bail, help to direct ground forces to the suspects.

    The ONLY times I've seen a ground unit break off pursuit, is when he has been left in the dust so badly, that he can't even pretend to be chasing any longer.

    Before anyone asks - that generally happens when some damn fool on a motorcycle comes flashing by at speeds over 150. Not that I would ever think about committing such a heinous crime, LMAO!!

    Parenthetically, I often wondered what it SOUNDED like when a bike blasted past. Found out one late night in Chicago, when several dozen bikes passed me, well over 150 mph. Then, several more at slightly more sane speeds like 120 or so, then a couple hundred running merely 100 mph or so. My own speed at the time, was 85, and those first bikes blasting past startled the hell out of me!

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