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Inmates Program Logistics App For Prison

schweini writes "Inmates in an Oklahoma prison developed software that attempts to streamline the prison's food logistics. A state representative found out, and he's trying to get every other prison in Oklahoma to use it, too. According to the Washington Post, 'The program tracks inmates as they proceed through food lines, to make sure they don’t go through the lines twice... It can help the prison track how popular a particular meal is, so purchasers know how much food to buy in the future. And it can track tools an inmate checks out to perform their jobs.' The program also tracks supply shipments into the system, and it showed that food supplier Sysco had been charging different prices for the same food depending on which facility it was going to. Another state representative was impressed, but realized the need for oversight: 'If they build on what they’ve done here, they actually have to script it out. If you have inmates writing code, there has to be a continual auditing process. Food in prison is a commodity. It’s currency.'"

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  1. Teaching Software Development by RunFatBoy.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since the code needs to be audited anyways, it'd be a great chance for an instructor to introduce code reviews and/or pull requests. And maybe during that process, help enlighten other curious inmates as to how the system and programming works.

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    1. Re:Teaching Software Development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      And maybe during that process, help enlighten other curious inmates as to how the system and programming works.

      And five years from now, Google and Microsoft and Facebook will be whining how there simply aren't enough prisoners to meet IT demands.

      Sorry, but I'll stick with the H1Bs.

    2. Re:Teaching Software Development by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Awesome idea, with but one flaw... ...who is going to hire a ex-convict, especially in a role that most corporations consider to be sensitive? It could certainly spur entrepreneurial ideas, yes, but the vast majority likely won't be able to use the skills.

      Kinda sucks IMHO, because many prisoners are in there because they had no real opportunity before they got arrested... but it is what it is, and no one is going to hire an ex-con to write code. Hell, they rarely get hired to do skilled blue-collar labor as it is.

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    3. Re:Teaching Software Development by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's approximately ten billion* startups being launched every day, and each startup benefits from a couple decent coders. The individual startups might not all be viable in the long term, but if anyone is going to be willing to jump from opportunity to opportunity, I'd think it would be an ex-con.

      *May include other galactic civilizations

  2. Re:Food in prison is a commodity. It’s curre by Shoten · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How can food in prison be a commodity? Are the prisoners not fed enough?

    Is this a real question?

    In prison, real currency is not allowed. However, humans are inherently commercial creatures, and consequently a system of barter results in the absence of any kind of hard currency upon which to base trade. What is needed is something with intrinsic value but which is also universally valued by most (if not all) of a population. Food is perfect for this: let's say you want something from another inmate. You may pass on eating a meal, instead giving it to the other guy in exchange for the thing you want. But, if you can go through the line twice, you can have your cake and eat it too.

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  3. Rehab by ebno-10db · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At least they're learning a skill that will be useful after they get out of prison. No wait ... that was before they shipped all the jobs offshore. I'll bet being a car thief pays better than flipping burgers, so maybe these guys ought to teach economics.

  4. Re:Food in prison is a commodity. It’s curre by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Got it in one.

    The prison system hopes to convince inmates to integrate harmoniously with society once they are let out by teaching them that society is a heartless bastard and their sworn enemy. Then it creates the necessary conditions for a thriving black market so they won't go into the drug trade.

  5. Re:popularity? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you should talk to a therapist until this sick desire to hurt people goes away.

  6. Re:Food in prison is a commodity. It’s curre by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is needed is something with intrinsic value but which is also universally valued by most (if not all) of a population. Food is perfect for this: let's say you want something from another inmate.

    Nota Bene: Food in prison can also be considered a raw material - bread for instance can be turned into alcohol with the right know-how, or fruits fermented for the same purpose.

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  7. Re:Food in prison is a commodity. It’s curre by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    trading and exploitation, where the strong exploit the weak.

    Trading does not imply exploitation. In fact, it implies the opposite: two willing traders. I am a vegetarian, so I when I was in jail, I was happy to trade away the meat, but not the dessert (I love sweet stuff). Several other inmates offered to do my toilet cleaning duty in exchange for the meat. I declined, because I don't actually mind cleaning toilets (as long as I can take a shower when I am done). So I mostly exchanged food for votes on the TV channel. I built up enough votes to watch the PBS Newshour every Friday (when Brooks and Shields do the analysis of the week's news). Sometimes I even had enough votes to watch Gwen Ifill on Washington Week. It was in a county jail, not a "real" prison, and Santa Clara is not a typical county, but I never saw "the strong exploit the weak". Mostly they were a great bunch of guys, and we all cooperated to keep the area clean and running smooth. It was also a great way to improve my conversational Spanish. The food trading was an open and fair process. Nobody was coerced, and nobody ever went hungry.