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Stolen Adobe Passwords Were Encrypted, Not Hashed

rjmarvin writes "The hits keep coming in the massive Adobe breach. It turns out the millions of passwords stolen in the hack reported last month that compromised over 38 million users and source code of many Adobe products were protected using outdated encryption security instead of the best practice of hashing. Adobe admitted the hack targeted a backup system that had not been updated, leaving the hacked passwords more vulnerable to brute-force cracking."

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  1. Dear Adobe by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Online security (or lack thereof) is one of the reasons it's a bad move to turn your Adobe Creative Suite into a cloud based subscription service.

  2. Phishing going on too by perpenso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It wouldn't matter if users just followed best practices for password selection.

    True, but that is only part of the story. There is also the email address used with Adobe. Users also need to exercise caution with links and attachments.

    Last week I started to receive phishing emails on the unique email address that I had used with Adobe.

  3. Very breakable by shellster_dude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The passwords are very breakable as they used the same IV's and keys for every password. Thus any two same plain texts have the same cipher text. A little, simple statistical analysis will get you the keystream and allow you to get all the plain text passwords.

  4. You Mean Using Post It Notes by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People who use "best practices for passwords" have passwords that are so brutally hard to remember for a human being that they end up having to 'save' it on a Post-It note stuck to the side of their monitor or "hidden" under a pile of papers that others can look at. Or relegate the 'remembering' of their passwords to another piece of software like a system wallet/keychain, which is just offloading responsibility to another system that itself is an unknown quantity with respect to being well written. But even if a user uses a wallet/keychain, that doesn't remove the Post-It note vector if they need to use the password on more than one piece of hardware. It or a text file on a thumb drive are the common ways to transfer these kinds of passwords between devices.

    The reality of how the average person uses a computer often does not reflect the theories that many so called computer security experts have. That is because the latter forget that they are not in the center of the human standard normal curve. Most people don't think like programmers or so called security experts. Better to make the system secure than rely on people to follow so called password best practices. If it isn't easy for the average user, they won't use it.

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  5. Bad passwords on purpose by GlobalEcho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I haven't checked, but I assume my own Adobe account was part of this leak. And I don't care.

    Along with a large portion of the increasingly savvy population, I have more than one "level" of password in use. My account used the lowest of these, basically something like adobe_123. Learning that is not going to help anyone form useful heuristics on how I create my banking passwords -- it might even poison them.

    On the whole, I believe the breach will probably help crackers (if decryption can be achieved). But, I think it is foolish to automatically assume that accounts with "weak" passwords are contributors to the problem. As with me, they might be poor indicators of how humans choose more important passwords.

  6. Re:Am I imagining it? by Kongming · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree. I could do without "security questions", as well. Some sites allow you to reset your password using just the security questions, which is ridiculously insecure if credulously answered, given how easily available some of the information is. I used to put long strings of garbage as the answers, knowing that I would never lose my password. I can't do that anymore, because a lot of companies seem to have decided that it is a good idea to require answers to the security questions to do relatively routine things like log in from a different IP address. Now it is essentially one more password that I have to keep for each such site, which if you are choosing strong, unique passwords, is pretty much a waste of time.

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