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Don't Call It Stack Rank: Yahoo's QPR System For Culling Non-Performers

An anonymous reader writes "Employees don't like to be graded on the bell curve (or any other curve except for Lake Wobegon's) — we know that from the Microsoft experience. But Yahoo is struggling with what some say is vastly bloated headcount, and CEO Marissa Mayer has implemented a 'quarterly performance review' system that requires, or strongly recommends, that managers place a certain quota of their charges in the less-than-stellar categories. That sounds a lot like the infamous GE-Microsoft stack rank system. But according to AllThingsD's Kara Swisher, who (as usual) broke the latest story about life inside Mayer's Yahoo, Mayer's curve may more similar to the elaborate evaluation system used by her old employer, Google."

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  1. Main effect: The good ones will leave by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The main effect of this is to chill work-place climate, and foster distrust and back-stabbing. The result of that is always the ones that have alternatives (i.e. the best ones) leaving first. Sure, you can get rid of some dead wood that way too, but the overall effect is disastrous. A real manager know that, but Mayer has shown several times now that she does not even understand the basics of management.

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    1. Re:Main effect: The good ones will leave by NettiWelho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... Sure, you can get rid of some dead wood that way too, but the overall effect is disastrous. A real manager know that, but Mayer has shown several times now that she does not even understand the basics of management.

      I'm guessing that by the time it has any effect she has already secured her bonuses thanks to her unprecendented cost-cutting measures... Planning beyond a quarter year is so 50's.

    2. Re:Main effect: The good ones will leave by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can only agree with you 90%. You can do one round of layoffs where you stack rank and dump low-performing employees: one. That won't hurt the climate, because even though the system won't be perfect, the first time you do it (a) there really will be deadwood no one will be sorry to see go, and (b) there hasn't been time to game the system.

      Doing this quarterly is particularly insane. People will be so busy gaming the system, when are they supposed to get any work done?

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    3. Re:Main effect: The good ones will leave by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't have to. The best people are by definition self-motivated. They achieve high results because to do otherwise isn't in their personality. If you need to financially motivate them to insane amounts as well, you've already failed.

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  2. Incessant "performance reviews" are destructive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having worked for an organization that decided to follow this strategy, I did what all the good employees at my company did: we left for better jobs elsewhere. Yahoo is on its way to the dustbin of history, helped along by its senior management. My recommendation to Yahoo employees: get out while the gettin's good! Otherwise, you're in for the demoralizing experience of riding a sinking ship to the bottom!

  3. Re:no matter how high by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem extends beyond even that basic fact of statistics. In a large company with 10% average annual turnover, if they could selectively get rid of the bottom 10% and replace them with randomly-performing people, ranked performance would actually work pretty well.

    The problem here comes comes from the sample size per manager for consideration of these rankings. Let's say you have a department with three top-level managers, each having a team of 10 subordinates. You should ideally end up ranking three of them as the bottom 10% and three of them as the top 10% - And you will! Except, each of those managers will pick a top-1 and a bottom-1, rather than picking from the pool consisting of the entire department.

    As a result, even if team-A consists of all stellar performers and team C consists of all wastes of flesh, team A will have one member unfairly fired, and team C will have one member unfairly rewarded more than the average for team A.

    Now, under natural conditions, that distinction between team A and C probably wouldn't exist to any notable degree - Until you extend a policy like this across the entire company. Instead of losing the bottom 10% and promoting the top 10%, you end up actively selecting for a corporate culture that favors pooling into over- and under-performing teams exactly like A and C. The high performers, by definition, will pick teams that actually get things done; while the low performers will pick teams where they feel "safe" from flawed performance reviews.


    Yet another stunning win for Ms. "paid maternity leave for me, fuck the rest of you" Meyer.

  4. What a stupid system by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best it can tell you is the relative work abilities of one small group and really tells you nothing at all abou the qualities of each member. This method would have fired Pauli and Born because they ranked 'ranked' below Einstein, Heisenber, Shroedinger and Bohr.

  5. There IS something wrong with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with measuring employee performance relative to other employees

    Yes there is, because as you allude to later, it's IMPOSSIBLE to do it consistently and fairly across teams, and rankings within a given team have absolutely no relation to each other. Is a marketing guy who produced a successful campaign more or less important than a salesperson who actually sold the products being marketed, or an R&D engineer responsible for the innovative feature that the marketing guy highlighted and the salesperson sweet talked customers with? How about the IT person who developed innovative solutions to provide R&D, marketing, and sales with the systems, tools, and support they needed to do the above? What about each of those folks' direct managers who motivated and directed their teams to excel? It's just not possible to compare those people to each other objectively.

    If you want a lame car analogy, how about we get rid of the low-performing car parts, but we have the driver pick which ones to keep? You can get in the end you'll still have a comfortable seat, A/C, and the stereo, but the car probably won't actually be able to move...

    Just hire competent managers, do some manager and job rotation, encourage high performance and risk-taking without fear of consequences for ideas that didn't end up being the next big thing, you often need hundreds of "failures" to get one huge success.. The biggest thing is to treat employees extremely well, show them they are valued, trust them, go the extra mile for them, and they will most often return the favor. Just be very very very very careful in hiring, and if necessary use temporary contractors for grunt-work or temporary demand spikes, etc. The goal should be zero layoffs (you can of course still fire "for cause" IF you have a true problem employee). Avoid unions like the plague if at all possible as they are incompatible with the above, they look out _only_ for themselves, and to some small degree, workers, but not for the company as a whole. You want a culture where everyone across the company is in it together, NOT us-versus-them. You will be richly rewarded if you can succeed at that. In hard times employees will band together and be willing to accept less compensation and go the extra mile because they know when times are good you'll return the favor, the company looks out for its own. There's a huge benefit to being a private company in that respect because there's less pressure from greedy shareholders for short-term quarterly profits.