EPA Makes Most Wood Stoves Illegal

First time accepted submitter Jody Bruchon writes "The Environment Protection Agency has lowered the amount of fine-particle matter per cubic meter that new wood stoves are allowed to release into the atmosphere by 20%. Most wood stoves in use today are of the type that is now illegal to manufacture or sell, and old stoves traded in for credit towards new ones must be scrapped out. This shouldn't be much of a surprise since more and more local governments are banning wood-burning stoves and fireplaces entirely, citing smog and air pollution concerns."

Comments

Good

[Anonymous Coward]

You only see useless old people using those horrible things.

Re:Good

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck the poor!

Fuck Obama

[WCMI92]

He and his clique of fascists will soon be against the wall when the Revolution comes.

A lot of negative comments. . .

[Anonymous Coward]

On the other hand, would any of you who are criticizing this care to say whether you would want to live in an environment like China's, which is horribly polluted? Go ahead, justify your position, we can sit back and listen to you equivocate.

Re:I don't know how to feel about this.

[Nimey]

Poor choices regarding the regulation of wood stoves can (as those regulations squeeze the availability of these stoves) result in deaths, especially since manufacturing repair parts for "illegal" stoves is a consequence of "you can't manufacture these stoves."

Oh, bullshit. Cite a reg on woodstove pollution that's resulted in deaths since, oh, the '70s. You're peddling fear and resentment.

Re:I don't know how to feel about this.

[evilviper]

On the other hand, many of the people in Fairbanks that burn wood do so because it's the cheapest method they can use to heat their houses, and they can't afford other methods

Wood stoves are still legal, of course. Any NEW stoves sold need to be much more efficient gasifer-style. The kind that have been around since the 19th century.

We're only talking about a one-time $700 item, rather than whatever ancient piece of junk they would have purchased otherwise. And over time, should save people lots of money thanks to burning 1/3rd less wood for the same amount of heat.

http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/woodstoves.html

Re:Replace renewal energy with fossil fuels?

[Nimey]

No. Do they teach reading comprehension in West Bumfuck?

OP is dishonest

[Nimey]

Entirely apart from the flamebait article, he's foe'd me so he doesn't have to answer my rebuttals to his bullshit assertions.

Re:I don't know how to feel about this.

[Nimey]

Cite, failfuck. Where in the law does it say that you can't repair an older woodstove?

Re:Which company bought this 'new' rule?

[Nimey]

Because no liberal would dare be so socialist as to say "here, have some tax breaks so you can pay for a cleaner furnace THAT'S ALSO MORE EFFICIENT AND WILL SAVE YOU MONEY LATER ON".

Fuckwit.

O care mandate, ethanol, affirmative, epa, soda ..

[raymorris]

In the US? Liberal laws:
You not have health coverage that works for you, you must get Barry approved coverage for drug addiction, maternity, psyche, and routine doctor visits you'd rather pay cash for. You have your tubes tied? Sorry, we're still forcing you to pay for maternity coverage.

You must slowly destroy your car's engine by putting whiskey in the gas tank.

You must have lower standards for black people than white people, and lower standards for women than men. They're too stupid to meet the normal standards. Damn that one is OFFENSIVE!

You may not have a large soda.

You may not work hard in school and as a result be more successful than the potheads you went to high school with. Try it and we'll just take most of your paycheck so you're not able to provide your kids with anything the stoner doesn't provide his.

You may not recognize the 2nd amendment.

You may not build your retirement house on that lot you just spent your life savings on. A half mile down the road there's a spider that's a slightly different color than most of the spiders around here. The neighborhood now belongs to that spider.

Compared to US conservatism:
Get whatever health coverage you want. We suggest INSURANCE, which means coverage for things you can't pay out of pocket, aka "major medical". It's cheap, but if you want some other plan, that's cool, do what you want.

Newer cars are more efficient, but if you have a gasoline car that you don't want ruined, feel free to put gas in it.

If someone wants to work for you and you want to hire them, cool. Do the work you want, and if you need help with the work, hire whoever you think will do the best job.

Eat what you want. If you're hungry after working hard, our favorite is bacon wrapped anything.

US style liberalism is all about the nanny state telling you what you can't do.

on the other hand

[raymorris]

To be fair, I should acknowledge there are some things liberals will allow you to do. Want to kill babies? That's fine as long as you don't drink a large soda afterwards.

You want to know whether or not someone is going to kill your baby? You're not allowed to find out.

Re:Which company bought this 'new' rule?

[Attila Dimedici]

So, protecting an innocent child's right to life is an infringement on personal freedom now? You do know that right to life is one of the three freedoms mentioned in the Declaration of Independence as part of the justification for the American Revolution, right?
And where exactly is the right wing taking away the right to vote? Requiring that you demonstrate that you actually HAVE the right to vote is not the same as taking the right away from people. But then I guess you think it should be OK if people vote three and four times, as long as they vote the right way.