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Amazon Hints At Details On Its CIA Franken-Cloud

coondoggie writes "Amazon Web Services recently won a reported $600 million contract to build the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) a cloud. But that cloud will not look like any other cloud on the planet. Amazon will build the cloud using AWS architectures and AWS will manage it, but executives hinted that it will not be accessed the way other customers use AWS services through the public Internet. 'We're managing the operations in the data center,' Andy Jassy, Amazon's senior vice president and the head of the company's cloud computing division AWS said about the CIA deal. 'It's our hardware, it's our networking.'"

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  1. Re:So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not really "ze cloud" then, right? Fuck, I'm tired of hearing that word.

    'Cloud' is a pretty nebulous term. Like it or loath it (the latter being the correct answer), it is definitely sometimes applied to purely internal arrangements, if the internal infrastructure has been sufficiently abstracted in a manner similar to that used by one of the external 'cloud' services.

    The trivial case would be an internal Eucalyptus implementation, where the entire point is to be wholly compatible with a public cloud provider, either for code reuse or for expansion options. Where exactly the dividing line between something like this, and 'yeah, sure, the devs probably all have a copy of VMware Workstation. Why?' is a matter for largely fruitless debate.

  2. Re:So... by niftydude · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Cloud' is a pretty nebulous...

    I see what you did there.

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  3. worthless read by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    AWS is building the CIA a massive private cloud that will run AWS infrastructure, but it will sit in a CIA data center.

    there, that's the entire article in one sentence.

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  4. Re:So... by zdzichu · · Score: 4, Funny

    I strongly recommend Cloud-to-butt Chrome extension. You won't see "cloud" anymore and your browsing experience will be massively improved (and funnier).

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  5. Re:It's Ours? by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until they tell us it's not.

    Couldn't have said it better myself...

    Unless Amazon plans to hire its own paramilitary force to provide security at its data centers and is willing to fight anyone who tries to show up and "take over" (and blow it up if they cannot prevent the take over), then it is just hot air.

    When the guys with the guns show up, your rights start and stop there.

    Way too many people sitting behind their keyboards/tablets/smartphones seem to forget that point.

  6. Franken-cloud? Really? by wiredog · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a private cloud solution. Like the dozens of private clouds set up by RedHat (among others) in the Federal space.

  7. RFC 1149 by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

    but executives hinted that it will not be accessed the way other customers use AWS services through the public Internet.

    That leaves only one possible option.

  8. Re:That's very silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Your point has merit, but I'm just curious...

    What data do you have that you don't want the CIA/NSA to have?

    Everything they don't already have.

    Your tax returns? They have that already. Your bank account info? They have that already.

    Actually the IRS should have that, they're not supposed to be sharing that information with the CIA or NSA either....

    Unless you have secret plans to do something illegal, I highly doubt you have much they don't already have access to, much less do they care about you.

    Until they turn your own desires into public crimes? Besides if you've got nothing to hide comrade, you don't care if we listen to everything you do, right? Ask any former East German how they feel about the Stasi...

    I'm just asking the question

    I'm asking the question if the 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution means anything to you or anybody fucking else in this country anymore. It's fuckers like you that has allowed the surveillance state to take hold. Keep watching the TV buddy....