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NJ Gamblers May Be Locked Out By Flaws In Virtual Fence
According to an Associated Press story (as carried by the Washington Post), regulations meant to selectively allow some forms of internet gambling to take place within New Jersey (with a cut to the state, of course) are being enforced by means of "virtual fences" that fall short of the state's borders. An excerpt: "'Unfortunately for some people, there may not be sufficient verification that they are in New Jersey — even if they are — and they’ll be denied,' said David Rebuck, director of the state Division of Gaming Enforcement. 'It’s an unavoidable consequence.'" For some values of unavoidable, maybe.
Jersey City Vice !!
Could someone ask these people to define "unavoidable" for us, please.
Is it just me or does this look pretty silly? One proxy inside their virtual fence and it's utterly pointless and useless?
Unless you want to smoke some hash, snort some coke, gamble, pay for sex (or indeed, be paid for sex), or many of the other little things* that the government doesn't want you to do. But, feel free to be ripped off by the banks, insurance companies, and other financial institutions. And feel free to pay your taxes so that the government can export that freedom.
* Little things. Victim-less crimes. Suicide is not murder, and self-harm is not assault.
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In this case, puritanism has nothing to do with it. This is simple power politics.
...nothing of value was lost. And I mean that in both senses.
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One doesn't need to be Christian to question the wisdom of allowing the Government and for-profit corporations to profit from gambling, which is essentially nothing more than a tax on people who are bad at math.
Nor do Christians generally oppose gambling. Two words for those who dispute this statement: Church bingo.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Don't waste your time, they already know this but their hatred exceeds their ignorance and they have no desire to remove either of them.
"Unavoidable" means there is no way around it. That's bullshit when dealing with computers. There is always a way around it, if you're not a lazy fucktard doing the programming.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
I've got nothing against Christians. I have problems with people who do things in the name of Christianity.
Lemme guess, you're buthurt because you've been "unjustly" denied.
No, he's just not very witty. Hanlon's razor, yaknow?
One doesn't need to be Christian to question the wisdom of allowing the Government and for-profit corporations to profit from gambling, which is essentially nothing more than a tax on people who are bad at math.
There is a social cost to gambling. Areas with legal gambling tend to have higher crime rates, more substance abuse, prostitution, and families in poverty (many gamblers are those that can least afford it). It is reasonable to tax gambling to recoup these costs. It certainly makes more sense than taxing, say, income and payrolls.
Nor do Christians generally oppose gambling.
Does the bible prohibit or condemn gambling? I don't think so, although many people may believe that it does. This reminds me of the poll of born-again Christians that were asked to pick their favorite bible verse, and 40% (or something like that) picked "God helps those that help themselves." Of course, that "verse" is not from the bible ... and expresses pretty much the exact opposite of the central tenets of Christianity.
It is reasonable to tax gambling to recoup these costs
It might be more reasonable not to allow gambling in the first place, particularly when it's the State (via the lottery) that's promoting it. That's what I was hinting at, not specifically condemning taxing the profits from gambling where it's legal for whatever reason. The flip-side to that is you drive it underground where it's harder to regulate, with obvious consequences, though at least the underground market isn't as ubiquitous and well advertised.
It would be interesting to see some actual studies done on the societal cost of legalized vs. illegal gambling, but I highly doubt that will happen anytime soon. There's just too much money at stake, and most of the States have figured out that legalized gambling is a nice way to raise taxes without the usual political cost of raising taxes. I do love the irony of funding education (New York lottery) and elderly care (Pennsylvania lottery) on the backs of those who can least afford the income hit associated with the lottery.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Citations please, there are multiple casinos within an hour of me and they are actually in pretty good areas.
Although we are technically in New Jersey...
"tax on people who are bad at math"
What's even worse is that the casinos are permitted
to not accept wagers from well funded individuals that
ARE good at math.
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Yup
There is a social cost to gambling. Areas with legal gambling tend to have ...... prostitution,
So, its not all bad.
Have gnu, will travel.
Have to live in New Jersey. Can't participate in one of the few worthwhile activities.
Have gnu, will travel.
Another fence for with USA willget slapped by WTO...
Citations please
Citation.
It is reasonable to tax gambling to recoup these costs
no, it's not.
Why make it all so complicated?
- Require valid user with unique ID and password
- Allow NJ citizens to sign up
- Filter out 'undesirables' (non-NJ, banned, underage etc.)
Now, just allow anybody that's a valid user to play regardless of their location.
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Im personally a bigger fan of the poll where 80% of respondants admitted that most of the polls statistics that they quote are actually made up on the spot.
Do elucidate us on how electronic device geolocation can avoid denying some users close to the "fence" access.
"Sufficient Accuracy".
"with a cut to the state, of course"
How the good people of New Jersey want to organize their government and support their government services is their business. Perhaps we can run a government for free? Or is tax evasion a God given right?
I bet if it had been done by a private company the post would consider this "cut" to be fair, just, and natural.
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So casinos raise the suicide rate, bankruptcy rate and crime rate, but apparently only if they are in MD or are Mississippi river boats... Apparently the Vegas casinos had no impact? Seems flawed to me and I live 20 minutes from 1 casino in MD, 5 minutes from the new one they are building and less than an hour from the others.
It's possible to be good at math and enjoy gambling as a recreation or amusement.
Just want to point out that if gambling were controlled via some uniform set of laws rather than varying wildly state-to-state, this sort of nonsense would be moot. And that includes the taxation laws, as it's easy to deduct a tax from online winnings, just difficult if you have to change the tax rate for every dang community or region.
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Proxy servers have nothing to do with this, it has everything to do with how they determine your location.
They triangulate your location using the closest cell phone towers, and get your position that way. The problem with this is that for the 300,000+ people in Jersey City or Hoboken, the strongest cell tower may be located in New York City where internet gaming is illegal, and you get shut out of using the services. Same goes for the people in Camden that may get a signal indicating they are in Philadelphia.
Yes this can be easily defeated by buying a Tracfone and leaving it at a friends house + VPN, but for non tech savvy people this is a huge deal. In Nevada when they implemented this is wasn't really a problem because besides Lake Tahoe, barely any of the population lives right on the border next to a large population center.
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