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62% of 16 To 24-Year-Olds Prefer Printed Books Over eBooks

assertation writes "According to The Guardian, 62% of readers between the age of 16 and 24 prefer physical copies of books over ebooks. Reasons given were the feel of 'real books,' a perceived unfairly high cost for eBooks, and the ease of sharing printed books. 'On questions of ebook pricing, 28% think that ebooks should be half their current price, while just 8% say that ebook pricing is right.' The preference for physical copies was in contrast to other forms of media, such as games, movies, and music, where a majority preferred the digital version."

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  1. Burn an Ebook? by donut1005 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I posed a question on social media recently asking if deleting an Ebook is akin to book burning. Very few saw a parallel. Most were appalled at the idea of burning a book but had no problem with deleting an Ebook. The reason they would not burn a book but were ok with deleting an Ebook? Not for the preservation of knowledge, not for passing on history, not for any other archeological reason. Just because they had a sentimental connection via their senses, the touch, the smell.

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    1. Re:Burn an Ebook? by jbolden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Humans build morality based on sacramental associations. Book burning is an activity only bad people do. Deleting ebooks is an activity both good and bad people do. Ergo: book burning is likely a bad thing while deleting ebooks morally neutral.

      That seems like a sensible analysis where one is appealing to sociology for the determination of good vs. evil.

    2. Re:Burn an Ebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can easily re-download an ebook. Deleting an ebook is closer to putting a book in a bookshelf than to burning it.

    3. Re:Burn an Ebook? by mlts · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Voluntary payments work in smaller ecosystems. However as things get bigger, the tragedy of the commons starts happening. This is why an honor system peach stand in the middle of Maine works, while one near a busy city likely will be relieved of its fruit and cash box... perhaps just removed completely.

    4. Re:Burn an Ebook? by pr0fessor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a big difference between going to the library and burning books you don't want others to read and deleting a ebook off of your device to make room to download more ebooks from a large repository of ebooks {you've not deleted it from the repository just your device you can still download it again}.

  2. Re:price by assertation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article was about 16 - 24 year olds. They probably already know how to pirate. Ease of sharing was also another issue. Prices can be reduced, but the business model of eBooks seems to be based on reducing sharing, so that road block isn't going away.

  3. Re:price by Shinobi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it's not only about price. It's about the fact that the book can be read anywhere, without needing a battery charge or anything. Even many kids think about that. It's also less stressful for the eyes than looking at a screen.

  4. Sample Bias by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Half of the respondents were sourced through student moneysaving website Studentbeans.com, and half through a broader youth research panel.

    You ask people at a money saving web site and they will choose the cheeper thing. Used books are way cheaper than ebooks. If you asked Amazon shoppers you would get a different answer.

  5. That's okay by paiute · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look at it from the other side. 38% of a very desirable demographic using a product that has not been around that long. It's been 500 plus years since the Gutenberg Bible and only 6 years since the Kindle came out. I think that 38% is pretty damn good.

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    1. Re:That's okay by Luthair · · Score: 3, Funny

      0.001% of respondants prefer the Town Crier.

  6. Re:Printed books by geekd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't fit 500+ printed books in my pocket. For me, that's the big deal right there. I have limited physical storage space in my house, and I read about 2 books a week.

  7. Re:price by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The per-unit cost of printing a book and shipping it in bulk to a distributer is a trivial portion of the price of a book.

    I found one breakdown of printed book cost analysis analysis that put printing and distribution at 20% of a book's cover price, and retailer's markup at 40%. A lot of that retailer's markup is inventory cost--what it costs the retailer to store and display copies of the book. Even though the actual *printing* cost is only 10% of the book's price, you then have to pay for dealing with the physical form and getting it to the customer, which is much tougher than getting a computer file to the customer. At a guess, I'd say that 30% to 40% of the cost of a physical book is tied to paying for its physical aspects. Not so trivial.

  8. Wrong question by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ask them if it's OK to delete the last copy of an eBook and see what response you get.

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  9. Anecdote, data, and all that, but... by zooblethorpe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    citation ?
    I want to see a real study about this supposed eye stress people keep mentioning.

    A real study would be good. At the same time, I haven't run across anyone in my personal life who doesn't prefer reading a dead-tree book over an ebook. Ebooks are certainly more convenient in many ways, especially once you factor in portability. But many (most?) ebook readers these days that I see around me are backlit (as they tend to be tablets), which does lead to a certain amount of eyestrain and can cause circadian imbalance.

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    1. Re:Anecdote, data, and all that, but... by MemoryAid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I want to see a proper double blind study done of this.

      How do you do a double-blind study on screens?

      "You will be looking at either a back-lit screen or a book--we won't tell you which until after the study--and then we will ask you questions and examine your eyes to determine the effects."

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    2. Re:Anecdote, data, and all that, but... by PNutts · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do you do a double-blind study on screens?

      Maybe he meant force people to use either one or the other and see who goes blind?

    3. Re:Anecdote, data, and all that, but... by zooblethorpe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Any citation for that?

      Nope; as noted, "I haven't run across anyone in my personal life...", so this would fall under the "anecdote" category. :)

      I want to see a proper double blind study done of this.

      I look at an LCD all day, then sometimes some more at home. I do not suffer from any eyestrain I can detect.

      Similar to the anecdote/data duality is the fact that not everyone is affected by things the same way. You may be one of the lucky few or lucky many who aren't negatively impacted by looking at an LCD all day. I know that my nearsightedness is markedly worse at the end of any workweek where I've been staring at the monitor all the time, and that my eyesight is noticeably improved after spending several days not staring at something only a couple feet away. YMMV, and all that.

      The impact of backlit screens on circadian rhythms has been studied, if memory serves. Some quick googling pulls up a goodly number of hits, including a couple actual studies just in the first page of hits. Changing from regular web-wide Google to Google Scholar produces more hits for studies.

      And more specific to eye strain are these hits. I haven't waded through, but the number of hits (524) and the titles of the first page of hits suggests that this is an area of study. This one in particular sounds like what you might be looking for: Comparison of eye fatigue among readings on conventional book and two typical electronic books equipped with electrophoretic display and LC display . This link to the paper is paywalled, unfortunately, but you might be able to ferret out an open copy of it somewhere.

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    4. Re:Anecdote, data, and all that, but... by Zalbik · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How do you do a double-blind study on screens?

      You could (sort of) do it by masking the true test.

      We're doing a study on eye strain as related to age. Please read these instructions (either screen based or paper instructions), and complete the attached (paper) quiz.

      The participant believes the quiz is designed to evoke the eye strain, whereas it's just masking the true test - the instructions.

      There are probably better ways to do this, it's the first idea I thought of....

  10. Re:Printed books by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To give some arguments that I don't see:

    Printed books don't break when shoved into luggage.

    My 4 year old kindle (with keyboard) has been shoved in luggage countless times and hasn't broken. I replaced it with a paperwhite kindle a few months ago because I wanted a backlight, but I still use the old one from time to time. An eBook reader may be more fragile than a paper book, but it can withstand the rigors of daily life just fine.

    The kindle is especially nice for reading at the beach or hot tub -- I just put it in a ziplock baggy to keep out the sand and water, and can read with ease. If I drop it in the water, it floats on the surface -- no need to wait days to dry it before continuing to read (if it's possible at all, and the pages aren't stuck together)

    Printed books have infinite "battery life".

    I'm still averaging a month of battery life on my kindle, and I can read while charging. It's not infinite, but it may as well be.

    Printed books don't get stolen like electronic devices.

    Someone broke into my car once and took my backpack with several books (and dirty gym clothes), they rifled through the glove compartment, but they didn't take the kindle that was tucked into a door side pocket. I'm not aware of any anti-theft devices built-in to books, so they can get stolen like everything else. Admittedly if I left the kindle on the seat next to a book, they'd likely have taken the kindle before the book.

    I break a book, I just lost that particular book - well, no. I can still read it. I lose it, all I lost is one book - not an electronic device and all the other books on it.

    I buy most of my books through sources other than Amazon, and I have a backup copy of all of them, if my kindle breaks or someone steals it, I don't lose any books, not even the one I was currently reading. And Amazon can have a replacement kindle at my door in 2 days.... or I can run the Kindle app on my phone and pick up right where I left off.


    At least some poor slobs (printers, packagers, truckers, etc ...) are making a living making these things (at no extra cost to me) as opposed to content creators who knock this off and make an infinite number at no additional cost (put it into the computer and infinite copies without any effort.).

    Why do you think that you're not paying to support the entire print industry when you purchase a book? Where do you think the money comes from to pay them if it's not built-in to the price of a book?

  11. Re:This is why Kindle Matchbook is a good idea by mlts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish this was a general practice among book publishers. Buy the dead tree version, and on the inside is a card one can scratch off, scan a QR code, and download the eBook version. Best of both worlds -- a paper copy for the bookshelf, and a copy on the E-reader.

    Of course, this means standardizing on a DRM process, rather than iBook/Kindle/Nook/Kobo/Google/etc. having their own systems... or even better, no DRM at all.

  12. They reversed the age numerals by Roblimo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm 61, not 16, and I prefer my eBook reader (my Android phone) for light fiction, especially when I'm trying to fall asleep or in a waiting room or eating a light meal in a coffee shop.

    The price of Ebooks -- yes, way too high -- doesn't directly affect me, since my local library loans me eBooks. And then there's that huge public domain Gutenberg collection and others like it.

    I'll pay for eBooks when they're half the price of mass-market paperbacks. Until then, I'll only read titles I can get for free.

  13. Re:price breakdown by davecb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes: one of my customers is a major publisher, and the printing costs, warehousing and transport are indeed a huge part of the cost of a book, certainly on the order of 40%. Some of this can avoided by the publisher, by having a retailer warehouse the books, but the retailer still has to pay for the warehouse, and therefor adds that cost into the price.

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  14. Re:price by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article was about 16 - 24 year olds. They probably already know how to pirate. Ease of sharing was also another issue. Prices can be reduced, but the business model of eBooks seems to be based on reducing sharing, so that road block isn't going away.

    My own kids put it differently. It's the feel and smell and convenience of a book that counts. Above all, it's the feel of the paper as the pages are turned.

    Having to use an ebook reader would probably diminish their liking for books (we're all bookworms). They have little or no interest in ebooks, although we have a good number of PDF books on topics which interest them. So accessing books with file-sharing tools is also not an issue. Also, the cost is irrelevant; we give them books whenever they want, and they also get lots of books based on their marks at school (this turns out a bit pricey, but it's worth it for the motivating effect).

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  15. Re:price and sharability by davecb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I buy e-books from companies who expect me to treat them like physical books. If I lend a colleague a copy, I tell him if he likes it he should buy one. General speaking, (s)he does. Sometimes electronic, sometimes paper.

    One publisher puts a "bookplate" in that says "This electronic copy of <title> belongs to David Collier-Brown, davecb@spamcop.net", in the top half of a page that contains a simplified set of terms and conditions, which explicitly says "treat me like a hardcover book".

    I could remove it easily enough, it's just epub, but I don't care to. I agree with the publisher, and I want borrowers to know who they borrowed the book from, so they'll tell me if they buy their own. I expect most of my friends could pirate the book as well, and that they don't care to.

    The publishers know I can pirate the book, but that I bought it. They take a risk that I may lend a copy to someone who "won't give it back", in the sense that he will keep it and won't buy his own copy. That tends to make me reluctant to lend him either electronic or physical books, just like I would if he didn't return a hardcover he borrowed.

    In short, they expect most people are honest, can pirate and will buy books they like. See any of my postings about O'Reilly's Using Samba for proof that people did exactly that.

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  16. Re:price and sharability by assertation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the language you used are why the young people who were polled prefer print.

    They can hand a printed book off to someone without the word "pirate" being potentially used.

  17. Re:price by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Plus some random exec can't revoke your ability to read your printed book at a moment's notice.

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  18. Re:price by DexterIsADog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've always found this odd - my view is that the content of the book is all that matters, and smell and physical feel of pages is irrelevant. I read many more books, on a wider range of topics, both fiction, non-fiction, including history, now that I can read on a Kindle, an Android tablet, or even my phone. If I find myself stuck someplace I didn't expect to have time to kill, I just pull out my phone and read.

    As for convenient, I find the ability to carry around as many books as I want, browse, sample and buy more in any location at any time, to be much more convenient than paper books.

    And this from a guy who enjoyed trekking into Manhattan from Queens as a lad to go to the big bookstores, the only place I could find all the s.f. I craved in the 70's.

  19. Re:price by DrLang21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Frankly, ebooks are a pain. When I'm reading, I frequently flip back to previous material that I've read for reference. Or I flip to a topic I am looking for. With physical media, this is relatively painless. With ebooks, you get lost. There is also the problem of not knowing exactly what you are looking for. You can't search for it because you are not quite sure what you are looking for. You flip through pages until you find keywords that jog your memory but had not previously considered.

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  20. Re:price by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They probably already know how to pirate.

    I think you'd be surprised at how horrendously incompetent most people are. I'd say young people are nowhere near as 'tech savvy' as some people like to claim they are, to the point where they have difficulty doing much beyond accessing their Facebook pages and using a few specific programs.

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